Joe Andreessen extended

[May Day 10]

Seth appert, Maddy glab, demar hamlin, and Joe andreesen

[Sierra Foothills]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t think his play has been good enough the last 3 seasons to warrant 11M a year.  Coupled with the fact that he has serious triuble staying healthy come the playoffs….i think it’s an overpay.  
 

you can’t just disregard his injuries.  IIRC, he’s been out with injuries for the Bills last THREE season ending losses

 

I'm reassured by the improved play of Dorian Williams, the promise of KEO and the imminent return of Shaq Thompson.

 

As I've posted elsewhere I think this position group can improve over the course of the season without any actual roster moves.

 

That said, I'd love for the Bills to draft another ILB next year.

 

I'm a bit sad to have missed out on Jacob Rodriguez... I think it was probably the positional value that made us take TJ Parker... hope that works out.

 

[jcamm1966]

Man we love signing our ST guys  

[Einstein]

46 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Beane is the best in the business at getting ahead of the market. Occasionally it leads to an overpay like Knox or Bernard. 

 

One could make an argument to add Oliver to that list too.

[HappyDays]

Just now, jcamm1966 said:

Man we love signing our ST guys  

 

Every team pays their core special teams players. You don't just concede that part of the game.

[artmalibu]

50 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Beane is the best in the business at getting ahead of the market. Occasionally it leads to an overpay like Knox or Bernard. But the amount of money we're saving on the likes of Cook, Rousseau, and Brown is staggering. I haven't been a fan of his free agent classes but he is better than any GM out there at keeping his own happy and paying them before the market inflates.

 

Quit talking this crazy stuff!!!  I read around here how bad Bean is and should have been fired....

[Maynard]

23 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

Seth appert, Maddy glab, demar hamlin, and Joe andreesen

Walk into a bar? Then what?

[BearNorth]

14 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

One could make an argument to add Oliver to that list too.

Oliver is on the smaller size for his position and since 2022 has missed multiple games in every season due to injury.

[Marcus Aurelius]

He must be doing something right.

Special Teams as a whole have been a pleasant surprise 

[nuklz2594]

good for him. tbh...misread it and thought it was anderson

[machine gun kelly]

1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

Same here, NMW, but this may situate the cap wise next season to play around with his allocation knowing they are going to keep him as a special teamer.

 

 

I’m with you Donuts.  What is $1.5 mil. Per for a guy who does a nice job at ST, and great depth with Rudy type of heart on backup LB.  Why not?

[Einstein]

34 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Oliver is on the smaller size for his position and since 2022 has missed multiple games in every season due to injury.

 

And I like Oliver. I think he is a better player than some fans give him credit for. But he is also chronically injured and can disappear at times.

[Marcus Aurelius]

18 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

good for him. tbh...misread it and thought it was anderson

I did too!

This was indeed a surprise 

[Kirby Jackson]

Good for him!! He went from a tryout, not even a UDFA contract (if I recall), to a guy that gets a jersey every week. He’s a pretty good special teamer and has parlayed that into a few years of contracts  plus $3M guaranteed. Congrats to Buffalo Joe

[K-9]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

He found his calling on Teams.

Been many players who’ve made a good living on special teams. Good for Buffalo Joe.

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Every team pays their core special teams players. You don't just concede that part of the game.

I don't know how many can catch this on TV, but here's an illustration of this guy's value.  They kick to his side nearly every time on KO.  And he is destroying people on kick coverage.  He's effectively at 3 years $6m.  Going rate for an elite STer. 

[jkeerie]

 

[DrDawkinstein]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I don’t think his play has been good enough the last 3 seasons to warrant 11M a year.  Coupled with the fact that he has serious triuble staying healthy come the playoffs….i think it’s an overpay.  
 

you can’t just disregard his injuries.  IIRC, he’s been out with injuries for the Bills last THREE season ending losses

 

If you look at last year, this year, and next year - We have him on a 3yr/$18M deal. That's it. Then we can move on and save $6M if need be.

[stevewin]

As an aside - I (Lancaster alum) just found out yesterday that Depew cancelled any future Lancaster-Depew games after this year bc of 'enrollment and roster size disparities'

 

My senior year Depew beat us 20-0 led by QB Don 'Majik' Majkowski

Edited October 3 by stevewin

[folz]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

We're stuck with him at an $11.1M cap hit next year which is an overpay but eh I can live with it. Compared to what he's saved by extending other players early it's a drop in the bucket.

 

Currently (on a per year average), Bernard is the 24th highest-paid linebacker in the league. And he has two more years on his contract (after this season).

 

33 of the next 34 LBers (who currently have a lower per year salary than TB) will be paid again before TB is (their contracts are up 1-3 years before his). So, over the next two years (some, obviously not all) of those LBers will probably get paid more than Terrell just based on increasing market value. In 1-2 years (on an overall average yearly salary for his contract), he may be down in the 30s as far as highest-paid LBers. So, maybe in the long run, it won't feel like such an overpay. 🤷‍♂️

 

Also, I'd like to see how the rest of the season plays out with TB in Leonard's system. He had a couple of years where he was a playmaker (always around the ball). Hoping that Leonard's system brings that player back. So far in three games, he has 1 PD, 1 FR, 1 QB knockdown, 1 QB pressure, and 2 TFLs. We'll see.

 

 

 

And very happy for Buffalo Joe. Always good to have a Rudy-type guy (hometown kid) in the locker room. Helps others not take things for granted. And he obviously has NFL-level skills if only as a backup and an excellent special-teamer. But who knows? Everyone can continue to grow and get better as well.