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Let's face reality here. Allen is 30 so at this point he is not playing in 10 Super Bowls and winning 7 of them like Brady has. A more realistic comparison would be Josh and Joe = Eli and Tom. Winning 2 is still very much in play.

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18 hours ago, Mooshocker12 said:

So, consider this. The Pat's established a winning dynasty because Bill saw what Tom brought to the offense, hired a figure head in an OC coordinator and focused his energy on the defense. We can all agree that Tom was NE, not Bill. What Bill was, was wise enough to know what he didn't know, hire those who did and let the journey unfold with minimal disruption or big splashes in FA/Trades, etc.

 

Is this a blueprint Joe is more apt to follow versus Sean? I'm interested in your opinion(s). 

Seems a little premature…

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18 hours ago, eball said:

It’s gonna be a long two weeks…

 

:lol:

 

Yeah Tim didn’t play defense and really that was some is their playoff success was how that defense just got dominant as the machine and snowball started to run down hill 

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20 hours ago, eball said:

It’s gonna be a long two weeks…

 

:lol:

 

 

At least college football starts this weekend. I am looking forward to that as well. Go Michigan.

20 hours ago, eball said:

It’s gonna be a long two weeks…

 

:lol:

 

 

 

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On 8/31/2026 at 12:46 PM, Mooshocker12 said:

So, consider this. The Pat's established a winning dynasty because Bill saw what Tom brought to the offense, hired a figure head in an OC coordinator and focused his energy on the defense. We can all agree that Tom was NE, not Bill. What Bill was, was wise enough to know what he didn't know, hire those who did and let the journey unfold with minimal disruption or big splashes in FA/Trades, etc.

 

Is this a blueprint Joe is more apt to follow versus Sean? I'm interested in your opinion(s). 

 

Charlie Weis was a figurehead?

 

On 8/31/2026 at 2:00 PM, thenorthremembers said:

 

Bill needed Tom a lot more than Tom needed Bill.   Bill's career before and after Brady are proof.  Brady's career post Bill is as well. 

 

 

3 SB wins in Brady's first 4 seasons was mainly because of the greatness of Brady?  That wasn't the dominant theory here before Brady left NE....to say the least.

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23 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

Joe, and Josh will never earn the asterisks Tom*, and Bill* did.

If an asterisk is what it takes for J & J to get to the NFL Promised Land, sign me up.

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