Mooshocker12 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 So, consider this. The Pat's established a winning dynasty because Bill saw what Tom brought to the offense, hired a figure head in an OC coordinator and focused his energy on the defense. We can all agree that Tom was NE, not Bill. What Bill was, was wise enough to know what he didn't know, hire those who did and let the journey unfold with minimal disruption or big splashes in FA/Trades, etc. Is this a blueprint Joe is more apt to follow versus Sean? I'm interested in your opinion(s). 1 6 3 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 31 Posted August 31 I dislike the arguments that NE's success was all Tom, not Bill. It was a symbiotic relationship, they both needed each other. 3 1 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 31 Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, Mooshocker12 said: So, consider this. The Pat's established a winning dynasty because Bill saw what Tom brought to the offense, hired a figure head in an OC coordinator and focused his energy on the defense. We can all agree that Tom was NE, not Bill. What Bill was, was wise enough to know what he didn't know, hire those who did and let the journey unfold with minimal disruption or big splashes in FA/Trades, etc. Is this a blueprint Joe is more apt to follow versus Sean? I'm interested in your opinion(s). Bill hired Matt Patricia as his OC and Joe Judge as his QB coach. Yeah, let's hold off praise for knowing the right dudes to hire. Bill was LUCKY that Brady fell in his lap. 3 1 Quote
BurpleBull Posted August 31 Posted August 31 I thought you were gonna actually tell us how Josh and Joe = Tom and Bill. 2 2 Quote
Jauronimo Posted August 31 Posted August 31 11 minutes ago, eball said: It’s gonna be a long two weeks… A headcoach and a QB. Two one syllable first names. Both in the eastern standard time zone. The comparisons are endless! What aren't you understanding? 5 Super Bowl wins pretty much guaranteed. 3 Quote
transient Posted August 31 Posted August 31 10 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I dislike the arguments that NE's success was all Tom, not Bill. It was a symbiotic relationship, they both needed each other. 🤔... so what you're saying is it's like Tom was the NFL version of a pearlfish and Bill was the NFL version of a sea cucumber. Quote
pennstate10 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 32 minutes ago, Mooshocker12 said: So, consider this. The Pat's established a winning dynasty because Bill saw what Tom brought to the offense, hired a figure head in an OC coordinator and focused his energy on the defense. We can all agree that Tom was NE, not Bill. What Bill was, was wise enough to know what he didn't know, hire those who did and let the journey unfold with minimal disruption or big splashes in FA/Trades, etc. Is this a blueprint Joe is more apt to follow versus Sean? I'm interested in your opinion(s). 1 1 1 Quote
Mark Vader Posted August 31 Posted August 31 35 minutes ago, Mooshocker12 said: So, consider this. The Pat's established a winning dynasty because Bill saw what Tom brought to the offense, hired a figure head in an OC coordinator and focused his energy on the defense. We can all agree that Tom was NE, not Bill. What Bill was, was wise enough to know what he didn't know, hire those who did and let the journey unfold with minimal disruption or big splashes in FA/Trades, etc. Is this a blueprint Joe is more apt to follow versus Sean? I'm interested in your opinion(s). Are you implying that Joe Brady is a cheater? 1 4 Quote
Mark Vader Posted August 31 Posted August 31 50 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Josh and Joe: 0 Tom and Bill: 6****** Fixed 1 2 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted August 31 Posted August 31 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I dislike the arguments that NE's success was all Tom, not Bill. It was a symbiotic relationship, they both needed each other. Bill needed Tom a lot more than Tom needed Bill. Bill's career before and after Brady are proof. Brady's career post Bill is as well. 2 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Mooshocker12 said: So, consider this. The Pat's established a winning dynasty because Bill saw what Tom brought to the offense, hired a figure head in an OC coordinator and focused his energy on the defense. We can all agree that Tom was NE, not Bill. What Bill was, was wise enough to know what he didn't know, hire those who did and let the journey unfold with minimal disruption or big splashes in FA/Trades, etc. Is this a blueprint Joe is more apt to follow versus Sean? I'm interested in your opinion(s). Like most here, trading Sean for Joe, was mostly palatable enough, if not a bit of a dud on the excitement scale.... I do believe Joe has potentially put together a more complete staff than Sean has, at least since the 13 secs debacle. Is: Joe >>> to Sean ? Isolated with no other context, at this point in their careers, today? Probably not. Sean had more intrinsic value, and next to 0 extrinsic value. Brady has ok Intrinsic Value, and loads of extrinsic value.... in the way that a top draft pick in June has. Is: Brady + Leonhard + Carmichael >>> Sean + His Avg of OC's + Bobby Babich I def see the potential for that. And if they're able to even tie that in year 1, I think by simply having a different perspective & voice in the room, could provide much better results for the team this season. Embracing the new! Shedding some previous mental baggage they were carrying. Could be enough to get us over the hump, along with a few other positive breaks our way!! 1 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 31 Posted August 31 1 hour ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Josh and Joe: 0 Tom and Bill: 6 Thanks for pointing out the painfully obvious that everyone knows. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Are you implying that Joe Brady is a cheater? I hope Joe does not use the same formula to pick his preferred age of woman, that Bill does!!! Bill's 74yrs old - Jordon's 25 yrs = 49 years Sooooo.... Brady's 36 years - 49 years = -13yrs old 😲 😲 😲 !!! He could wind up in jail !!!!!! 😲 😲 😲 Edited August 31 by BillsShredder83 1 1 Quote
WEATHER DOT COM Posted August 31 Posted August 31 7 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Thanks for pointing out the painfully obvious that everyone knows. Apparently not everyone. Quote
RiotAct Posted August 31 Posted August 31 let’s win a couple Super Bowls first before we start with this. We’re on to the Texans! 1 1 Quote
H2o Posted August 31 Posted August 31 Quote So, consider this. Is this the new "Hear me out..."? 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted September 1 Posted September 1 My days of talking again on TB and Belicheat are over. I see no parallels there with JA and JB. Quote
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