Maine-iac Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Someone tell me the last time we had a rookie WR who caught 7 passes in a game. It's exciting. I'm not penciling the guy in as my week one fantasy football starter but there's hope. 2 2 1 Quote
Victory Formation Posted August 29 Posted August 29 I love this guy, he glides when he has the football in his hands.. He will be WR#3 by the end of the year.. 1 1 Quote
Guns N' Rosen Posted August 29 Posted August 29 3 hours ago, Maine-iac said: Someone tell me the last time we had a rookie WR who caught 7 passes in a game. It's exciting. I'm not penciling the guy in as my week one fantasy football starter but there's hope. whatever "it" is, this kid has IT!!! 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) 15 hours ago, Guns N' Rosen said: whatever "it" is, this kid has IT!!! I mean yeah I like the potential but guys are getting really pumped up for a guy who had 7 yards of catch on a bunch of guys who are not going to be playing in the league Like anything under 10 yards per catch is below average for a wide receiver in the NFL He looked solid but he's behind Shakir on the depth chart and that's going to limit his opportunities He is basically shakir's back up and he has not shown he can win at the x or the z in the NFL against starters that's going to limit his touches Realistic expectations is something everybody should have because he's a rookie behind Shakir.. I don't think he's close to winning the z job so he's going to have a limited touches until he progresses and a year getting stronger is going to help If we got 25 catches out of him this year that would be very good There should be Realistic expectations for a fourth round pick Edited August 29 by Buffalo716 1 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 If he is it’s a criminal offense 18 hours ago, Victory Formation said: I love this guy, he glides when he has the football in his hands.. He will be WR#3 by the end of the year.. he should be WR3 now 1 Quote
NewEra Posted August 29 Posted August 29 26 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: he should be WR3 now 🤦🏻♂️ Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: If he is it’s a criminal offense he should be WR3 now Who's playing your x and your z and your slot? Shakir can't win consistently out wide at The z versus outside corners in the NFL either... Moore at X , shakir at Z and bell In slot doesn't sound that great to me In fact that sounds like an offense that will struggle to get 20 yards downfield at most of the wide receiver position Our most consistent wide receiver who's been on our roster is basically a pure slot guy.. Shakirs numbers out wide the last 3 years are pedestrian.. he doesn't win downfield consistently at the x or z... Bell doesn't have the strength right now to win outside consistently in the NFL... The bills passing game will have problems if the rookie becomes our number three wide receiver option He's a slot receiver right now Edited August 29 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted August 29 Posted August 29 14 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: I mean yeah I like the potential but guys are getting really pumped up for a guy who had 7 yards of catch on a bunch of guys who are not going to be playing in the league. Your 7 yards per catch couldn't be more meaningless. Beuchele missed him for a sure 25 yard gain. Two of his receptions were wide receiver screens... the last one the defense sniffed out and was doomed to be a 3 yard loss. Three of his receptions were for 1st downs. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Your 7 yards per catch couldn't be more meaningless. Beuchele missed him for a sure 25 yard gain. Two of his receptions were wide receiver screens... the last one the defense sniffed out and was doomed to be a 3 yard loss. Three of his receptions were for 1st downs. That's true but that's the story of the NFL my friend Every single wide receivers statistics are impacted by missed balls and wide receiver screens and such.. that's actually also the truth Shakir didn't do a lot of down the field route running last year but still averaged 10 yards a catch catching a bunch of screens.. and underneath routes Against starters... Even if you add that 25-yard catch and he goes 8 for 75 that still is below average yards per catch for an NFL wide receiver .. I agree it's not the most important number in the preseason but every single wide receiver is dealing with those same factors Again I think he has talent but I'm just being realistic with our fourth round pick who's going to be worked in I'm just being objective we got people here thinking he should be our number two or number three wide receiver and that is premature.. he looked solid in his preseason chances that he got the other night .. But I remember hodgins catching seven passes in the preseason and it means nothing realistically... I just have realistic expectations for the kid because there's going to be people complaining when he's not balling out because they thought he's going to be a focal point I get it he did look good but it was against guys who he will not see in regular season action... And the game plan was probably to throw to him to see where he's at because he missed so much time You're right the 7 yards per catch is slightly meaningless but I also didn't see top three NFL wide receiver on a team from him yet.. keyword is yet because I think he has that potential to grow But he is built for the slot which we have an established slot wide receiver so that's going to take away his amount of touches this season Edited August 29 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted August 29 Posted August 29 15 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Should’ve been more too…Buechele missed him completely when he was wide open for a huge gain 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 22 hours ago, Maine-iac said: Someone tell me the last time we had a rookie WR who caught 7 passes in a game. It's exciting. I'm not penciling the guy in as my week one fantasy football starter but there's hope. Lee Evan’s had 8 in a gsme as a rookie! Almost makes me sad that he only played until 30. He would have been perfect with Josh. and its the preseason and it’s so completely meaningless but it’s a good start. 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 31 Posted August 31 On 8/29/2026 at 1:39 PM, Buffalo716 said: I mean yeah I like the potential but guys are getting really pumped up for a guy who had 7 yards of catch on a bunch of guys who are not going to be playing in the league Like anything under 10 yards per catch is below average for a wide receiver in the NFL He looked solid but he's behind Shakir on the depth chart and that's going to limit his opportunities He is basically shakir's back up and he has not shown he can win at the x or the z in the NFL against starters that's going to limit his touches Realistic expectations is something everybody should have because he's a rookie behind Shakir.. I don't think he's close to winning the z job so he's going to have a limited touches until he progresses and a year getting stronger is going to help If we got 25 catches out of him this year that would be very good There should be Realistic expectations for a fourth round pick I'd say he either has to make plays in limited opportunities (and block), or there will be an injury or two that would get him on the field for more snaps. Primary slot depth, but even that like... you will have packages that move players like moore and coleman into the slot, and bring palmer in for shakir. Quote
warrior9 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 On 8/29/2026 at 2:25 PM, Buffalo716 said: Who's playing your x and your z and your slot? Shakir can't win consistently out wide at The z versus outside corners in the NFL either... Moore at X , shakir at Z and bell In slot doesn't sound that great to me In fact that sounds like an offense that will struggle to get 20 yards downfield at most of the wide receiver position Our most consistent wide receiver who's been on our roster is basically a pure slot guy.. Shakirs numbers out wide the last 3 years are pedestrian.. he doesn't win downfield consistently at the x or z... Bell doesn't have the strength right now to win outside consistently in the NFL... The bills passing game will have problems if the rookie becomes our number three wide receiver option He's a slot receiver right now Skyler Bell was 65% outside at UConn. 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 (edited) Should be: DJ Shakir Bell Coleman Palmer Dortch (Returner) with Coleman or Palmer inactive depending on how they look early in the season Bell looks the part with his footwork, routes, quickness and talent level right now IMO he should clearly be WR3 as the ceiling he provides immediately is on another tier above Palmer and Coleman I hope Allen goes to bat for this kid. Palmer and Coleman are a virtual non-factor for a defensive gameplan. Very uninsping options Edited September 1 by Warriorspikes51 Quote
NewEra Posted September 1 Posted September 1 10 hours ago, warrior9 said: Skyler Bell was 65% outside at UConn. @ UConn…. Playing against….. He needs to improve is downfield tracking if he’s going to be effective on the outside. As of now, it’s not good enough imo Quote
Mat68 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 He will likely be inactive if he cant nail down the punt return job. Expect Dortch or Sherfield called up in September. Both offer special teams ability. Quote
DCofNC Posted September 1 Posted September 1 On 8/29/2026 at 3:25 PM, Buffalo716 said: Who's playing your x and your z and your slot? Shakir can't win consistently out wide at The z versus outside corners in the NFL either... Moore at X , shakir at Z and bell In slot doesn't sound that great to me In fact that sounds like an offense that will struggle to get 20 yards downfield at most of the wide receiver position Our most consistent wide receiver who's been on our roster is basically a pure slot guy.. Shakirs numbers out wide the last 3 years are pedestrian.. he doesn't win downfield consistently at the x or z... Bell doesn't have the strength right now to win outside consistently in the NFL... The bills passing game will have problems if the rookie becomes our number three wide receiver option He's a slot receiver right now Well that’s like, your opinion, man Quote
Victory Formation Posted September 1 Posted September 1 4 hours ago, DCofNC said: Well that’s like, your opinion, man So you claim.... Quote
Shaw66 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 On 8/29/2026 at 7:39 PM, Buffalo716 said: I mean yeah I like the potential but guys are getting really pumped up for a guy who had 7 yards of catch on a bunch of guys who are not going to be playing in the league Like anything under 10 yards per catch is below average for a wide receiver in the NFL He looked solid but he's behind Shakir on the depth chart and that's going to limit his opportunities He is basically shakir's back up and he has not shown he can win at the x or the z in the NFL against starters that's going to limit his touches Realistic expectations is something everybody should have because he's a rookie behind Shakir.. I don't think he's close to winning the z job so he's going to have a limited touches until he progresses and a year getting stronger is going to help If we got 25 catches out of him this year that would be very good There should be Realistic expectations for a fourth round pick I agree. He just ran his routes and he was open. I didn't think he was tested by any quality defensive play. And his touchdown run was fun, but again he wasn't challenged. It was more like a stroll down the sideline. I hope he turns out to be a star, but I'm not expecting much from him this year. He'll fill in when he needed, and he'll catch a few balls, but I think even 25 catches from him is a lot to expect. Don't count on more than a couple yards from him. 1 Quote
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