13 Seconds to Mars Posted July 1 Posted July 1 10 hours ago, Pete said: The Greatest Stealth Punch to the Balls play ever occurs at 23 seconds of this video. It’s dirty, but it’s beautiful. its perfectly executed. Bills and Saints player were running towards each other, and when Bills player ran past him full speed, delivered the perfect nut shot. Bills player kept running, and was nowhere near Saints player who dropped at terminal velocity, clutching his nuts in agony. Not to mention, McGee ran like 160 yards, with blockers and defenders running back and forth acoss the field, refs trying to keep up….in that chaos no ref is gonna catch that glorious nut shot. On TBD about 20 years ago, we had a big thread- investigation as to which Bill delivered the perfect nut shot. We studied that play like it was the Zapruder Film. I don’t think we ever solved it. We came up with a few possibilities. So please, go watch this magnificent nut shot. Which Bills player did it? Holy cow!! We have to get to the bottom of this. It’s my new Bills rabbit hole for the offseason. 1 Quote
Fleezoid Posted July 1 Posted July 1 19 hours ago, 13 Seconds to Mars said: Millennial as well. My all time favorite player was Terrence McGee. Had he been on the Cowboys, he would’ve been a household name. Very good corner and elite return man. The tandem of McGee on KR and Roscoe Parrish returning punts was crazy. Forget the fact that he didn’t score. This is one of the sickest returns I’ve ever seen. I know every Bills fan has seen it, but this is what I show other fans if they don’t know. I was at that game. Me and a buddy were front row endzones right where he went down. Great return, but it was all or nothing. The half ended. 2 Quote
13 Seconds to Mars Posted July 1 Posted July 1 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: I was at that game. Me and a buddy were front row endzones right where he went down. Great return, but it was all or nothing. The half ended. Still an insane display of athletic prowess to witness live. It was so on-par with that Bills era like a live metaphor in front of your face. I will probably be severely downvoted, but I would’ve loved to have witnessed “Wide Right.” It’s the hope that suckered me into it all. Almost there . Edit: one of my favorite NFL photographs of all time is that Kevin Dyson tackle at the 1 yard before losing to the Kurt Warner-led Rams. It’s beautiful to me the resilience of some sports fans and teams. Edited July 1 by 13 Seconds to Mars 1 Quote
Fleezoid Posted July 1 Posted July 1 1 minute ago, 13 Seconds to Mars said: Still an insane display of athletic prowess to witness live. It was so on-par with that Bills era like a live metaphor in front of your face. I will probably be severely downvoted, but I would’ve loved to have witnessed “Wide Right.” It’s the hope that suckered me into it all. Almost there . It was crazy. We were screaming and waving him to the endzone. And I think you're on to something. It's not only a metaphor of that era, but can be of the Bills last 5 or 6 seasons as well. I get the witnessing big moments live. But I don't know about the Wide Right thing. It was disappointing enough on television with a big crowd. 1 Quote
13 Seconds to Mars Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Just now, Fleezoid said: It was crazy. We were screaming and waving him to the endzone. And I think you're on to something. It's not only a metaphor of that era, but can be of the Bills last 5 or 6 seasons as well. I get the witnessing big moments live. But I don't know about the Wide Right thing. It was disappointing enough on television with a big crowd. Eh, now that I think about it, you’re right. I nearly broke my dining room table in half when Bass did it in a less meaningful game. 1 Quote
Pete Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, 13 Seconds to Mars said: Holy cow!! We have to get to the bottom of this. It’s my new Bills rabbit hole for the offseason. It’s too bad that’s not in 4 k. It’s so quickly executed and a grainy picture it’s hard to get a number or letters if a name. The 2005 Bills special teams were a top unit. Coy Wire, Sam Aiken, Josh Stamer, and Jim Leonhard were core Special Teams players, and all prime suspects. Film room must of been hilarious that week. I’m certain Leonhard knows who did it, (if not him lol). So to truly find the answer, let’s ask Jim Leonhard 1 1 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted July 2 Posted July 2 10 hours ago, T master said: Another player that had the lunch pail Bills DNA was Aaron Schobel the guy was relentless & his production you could always depend on & just showed up & did his job & lead by example !! 100% agree. At one point he was really the only pass rusher we had, and Rex would sometimes line him up close to the sidelines, and even drop him into pass coverage. IIRC he retired when he could still play well. He probably couldn't take any more of the stupidity. 1 1 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 I was really big on Antowain Smith in the late 90's. I remember being really excited when we Drafted him. 1 Quote
Augie Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Hands down my favorite answer is CB Butch Byrd. He is the all-time leader in INT’s for the Bills with 40 in only 98 games. For some context, Tony Greene is in second place with 37 INT’s in 128 games. Oh, and Butch returned 5 of his for TD’s. Third on the list is Mark Kelso with 30 in 99 games. Charles Romes is behind that with 28 INT’s in 151 games for 4th place. Every other Bills player ever is below that. Think about that. For some reason a few guys never get their due. 1 1 Quote
13 Seconds to Mars Posted July 2 Posted July 2 58 minutes ago, Pete said: It’s too bad that’s not in 4 k. It’s so quickly executed and a grainy picture it’s hard to get a number or letters if a name. The 2005 Bills special teams were a top unit. Coy Wire, Sam Aiken, Josh Stamer, and Jim Leonhard were core Special Teams players, and all prime suspects. Film room must of been hilarious that week. I’m certain Leonhard knows who did it, (if not him lol). So to truly find the answer, let’s ask Jim Leonhard I would be perfectly fine if it was Jim himself. Like u said flawless and savvy. Quote
CSBill Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) On 7/1/2026 at 6:30 AM, Another Fan said: No love for Stevie Johnson? He was the guy that changed my image of people who had lots of tattoos Stevie had one of the most iconic moments in Bills history (not good, but iconic). But what a testament to him in how he handled it. It is Scott Norwood-level humility (I need to add Norwood to my list). Tim Graham captured it well. . . . https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2194262/2020/11/27/stevie-johnson-bills-dropped-touchdown/ Edited July 4 by CSBill Quote
Another Fan Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, CSBill said: Stevie had one of the most iconic moments in Bills history (not good, but iconic). But what a testament to him in how he handled it. It is Scott Norwood-level humility (I need to add Norwood to my list). Tim Graham captured it well. . . . https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2194262/2020/11/27/stevie-johnson-bills-dropped-touchdown/ There was a paywall on that article. But yeah I know he was real upset at first, he tweeted out I praise You God and this is how you repay me or something like that. Twitter was still real new then and I think that's where Bills Mafia emerged from 1 Quote
Toledo Bill Posted July 4 Posted July 4 Robert James... first shutdown corner. Devastating knee injury ended his career or would have been one of the all time greats. On 7/1/2026 at 9:39 PM, Augie said: Hands down my favorite answer is CB Butch Byrd. He is the all-time leader in INT’s for the Bills with 40 in only 98 games. For some context, Tony Greene is in second place with 37 INT’s in 128 games. Oh, and Butch returned 5 of his for TD’s. Third on the list is Mark Kelso with 30 in 99 games. Charles Romes is behind that with 28 INT’s in 151 games for 4th place. Every other Bills player ever is below that. Think about that. For some reason a few guys never get their due. I mention Robert James later in this discussion as my favorite. He and Byrd were both so special. 1 Quote
Augie Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 minute ago, Toledo Bill said: Robert James... first shutdown corner. Devastating knee injury ended his career or would have been one of the all time greats. I mention Robert James later in this discussion as my favorite. He and Byrd were both so special. Robert James was indeed special. His knee injury was a tragedy. He’s an afterthought to us now, but he might have been considered one of the all-time greats. I wonder what would have become of him with today’s surgical and rehab practices. Sadly, we’ll never know. 1 Quote
Kwai San Posted July 4 Posted July 4 On 7/1/2026 at 1:31 PM, frostbitmic said: The Williams Brothers Kyle and Pat 😉 Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuce Beast Mode Marshawn Lynch Josh ****** Allen Darryl Talley Andre Reed I could go on for awhile ... I always loved Darryl. Super player, super human being. Was a blast to shoot the ***** with when he and the boys were out doing PR activities. 1 Quote
Shaw66 Posted July 4 Posted July 4 The five I named in my book: Saimes Talley Jackson Williams Fitzpatrick Quote
Artful Dodger Posted July 4 Posted July 4 Probably Jonathan Dorenbas, the Bills' long snapper in 2003. During the drought years, he was one of the team's best long snappers. His wikipedia biography is very interesting. Also, wide receiver Bobby Chandler, who was Joe Ferguson's main go to target in the 1970's and who sadly died very young. 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted July 4 Posted July 4 I really, really, REALLY wanted to love J.P. Losman. I tried so hard…..but I grew to hate him. Quote
Toledo Bill Posted July 5 Posted July 5 On 7/4/2026 at 11:07 AM, Augie said: Robert James was indeed special. His knee injury was a tragedy. He’s an afterthought to us now, but he might have been considered one of the all-time greats. I wonder what would have become of him with today’s surgical and rehab practices. Sadly, we’ll never know. I was at the game he got hurt... it was a horrible looking injury... so sad. Great point you make... it might have been a different story with today's rehabs Quote
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