Stevie Johnson has all that above the shoulders and hopefully Keon catches some of it

[T.E.]

3 minutes ago, MJS said:

He doesn't remind me of Moulds even a little bit. 

Uh...they're both tall...uh...their jersey numbers both contain a zero...uh...both of their last names has the letter 'M'

Edited July 1 by T.E.

[JP51]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Stevie "has all that above the shoulders" Johnson blamed Jesus for a dropped pass...

I remember that game in OT ... I think it was right after the why so serious shirt... then he got serious...  but who knows... maybe his randomness connects 

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, Kincaid Kool-Aid said:

Not to take this to a place where it could get a little weird, but the Stevie thing never bothered me and in fact was kind of a fresh of breath air. I’m always amused when guys thank god or Jesus after a win while the losing team is in tears, despite guys on both teams asking for the same thing from the same god…a win. The same Jesus that caused him to drop the ball and lose was presumably the same that enabled the win for the other team via that drop. 

Those guys were speaking of Budda, Budda always dunked on Jeasus, lol

[BuffaloBillyG]

20 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Those guys were speaking of Budda, Budda always dunked on Jeasus, lol

At his body shape and size, I always thought of Budda as the Charles Barkley of deities.

[Jauronimo]

Keon's issue isn't intelligence so much as it is discipline.  Discipline was never an issue for Stevie Johnson due to the time he spent in the US Navy stationed on the U.S.S. Fukhmore.  I think Keon would benefit from enlisting and pursuing his football dreams after swabbing the poop decks for a few years.

[SoonerBillsFan]

If there is two things I have learned in life they are this:  1) They have to want it more than you do for them. and 2) No one is going to make anyone do what they really don't want to do.

 

I am at the point I say he gets a fair shot with an (*).  If by the trade deadline he hasn't clearly improved and earned the #2 spot, trade him.  

[Don Otreply]

32 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

At his body shape and size, I always thought of Budda as the Charles Barkley of deities.

Amazingly Barkley could dunk, lol

[Richard Noggin]

15 hours ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

I can't say for sure that Jesus didn't make him drop that ball

 

Gotta keep em guessing

 

15 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think Jesus's coverage and ball skills are always underrated. 

 

Crazy coverage ability (always right over your shoulder), but almost a willful inability to take the ball away. Like Leodis McKelvin, basically. 

 

11 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Amazingly Barkley could dunk, lol

 

I mean, a 6'6" beast out of Auburn could dunk, yeah...

Edited July 2 by Richard Noggin

[Don Otreply]

4 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Gotta keep em guessing

 

 

Crazy coverage ability (always right over your shoulder), but almost a willful inability to take the ball away. Like Leodis McKelvin, basically. 

 

 

I mean, a 6'6" beast out of Auburn could dunk, yeah...

The round mound of rebound…, 

[machine gun kelly]

On 6/30/2026 at 8:33 PM, PoundingDog said:

A 7th rounder played on terrible teams who got a big 2nd contract. Many believed Stevie is an over-achiever. But it's clear the guy had it above the shoulders. 

 

On the other hand, it speaks volume how little Keon has learned thru his first 2 years. Is it the WR coach or it's Keon himself? We are going to see this season. If Keon does improve and become a reliable target for Allen, I think Stevie Johnson will get a lot of new business as a "mentor." Having the knowledge is one thing. Identifying someone's problem is another. Then the ability getting it to the person is often the most difficult part in coaching/mentoring world.

 

I'm also surprised to hear his answer on running the ball. Just another proof I think the guy has it above his shoulders. 

 

 

 

I’ve always been a Stevie fan.  He was a right spot during the drought.  I met him several years ago at the home opener and he was having fun, Ithink if memory serves jumped through a table.  He was very kind to my oldest son, and I thanked him for it.  I certainly hope Keon can learn something from him as I have zero faith in the guy at this point.

[hondo in seattle]

On 6/30/2026 at 8:53 PM, PoundingDog said:

Do you think a quality CB covering him does not know what his route depth is after a few games of a season? If you or me are the CB covering him, Josh and Keon can tell us where the ball is going to be and they will still make the connection because we are no match for Keon physically. That's what happens when you play thru high school and college that a lot these guys just go by physcal traits alone. When you get to NFL, the guy across from you is likely just as good physically as you. So now what you have?

 

Guys like Justin Jefferson are technicians that every route he runs looks the same until the very last moment. Keon does not have that, in fact very few does, I'm talking about Jerry Rice territory. Guys like Diggs have that suddenness at the top the route to get open. Keon does not have that physical ability; I think Skylar Bell has that from OTA and mini camp videos. Guys like Kincaid (DJ Moore in that category) have very smooth running style and hip turns to change direction easily with no effort. Keon does not have that running style. We thought Keon have some of the Hopkins ability of body control and super strong hands to win 50-50 balls. Well, turns not he's far from 50% in that category (also not Josh's strong trait of always placing the ball with pin-point accuracy).

 

If you look at Stevie Johnson, he's not in any of the category above either. But he has that unconventional way of changing route patterns based on the situations to be QB friendly. I remember Derrelle Davis said of Stevie back in the day something about certain routes that the standard is 4 steps vertical and Stevie would change to 3 etc., very unconventional. It worked well that Stevie had a smart QB Fitzpatrick who could adjust to Stevie's routing running easily.

 

It's all good now Stevie is giving Keon some new ways to maximize his unique physical traits. Ultimately it's up to Keon to incorporate that into his game. I don't think mimicing what Stevie had is going to work directly for Keon. It looks good in practice field in shorts and it is good to get praises from your QB now. But it is another thing to do it in real games in September. And ... it is a further different thing to do it in November and January when opposing teams have films on you and you have to counter adjust. 

 

You're right, no doubt, about Fitz adjusting to Stevie's ad libs. 

 

But I swear sometimes it looked like Fitz was simply tossing the ball to someplace where it was unlikely a DB could get to and was just hoping Stevie could get to it.  And he did!

[Sierra Foothills]

On 7/1/2026 at 6:52 AM, T.E. said:

Uh...they're both tall...uh...their jersey numbers both contain a zero...uh...both of their last names has the letter 'M'

 

I know you're kidding but another similarity is that Moulds was a highly recruited hoops player. Although he didn't play in college (he chose football) he was recruited to play basketball at Duke and Kentucky, among other schools.

 

21 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Amazingly Barkley could dunk, lol

 

It's more amazing when you consider that though he was listed at 6'6", Barkley was actually 6'4".

 

Lack of a championship and personality aside, Barkley really was a great player.

 

[Steve O]

On 7/1/2026 at 7:44 AM, Bill from NYC said:

I hope that he tells Coleman not to blame God when he drops a last second  winning TD pass right in his hands.

I mean in Buffalo in the middle of November God gives him a warm sunny day, trips the corner 10 yards down the field, and puts a perfect spiral in his hands. Did Stevie think he didn't have to do anything?

[first_and_ten]

What impressed me most about Stevie Johnson is that he was always able to beat Darrelle Revis

[3rdand12]

On 7/1/2026 at 12:34 PM, SoonerBillsFan said:

If there is two things I have learned in life they are this:  1) They have to want it more than you do for them. and 2) No one is going to make anyone do what they really don't want to do.

 

I am at the point I say he gets a fair shot with an (*).  If by the trade deadline he hasn't clearly improved and earned the #2 spot, trade him.  

Both salient revelations Sooner !
I love Stevie even through his faults and oddball crap. But on the field he an Fitz ,Gailey were a nice trio to watch.

 

 If he is helping Keon become his best self ? Then , God Bless him for real.

 

Stevie is running a business with passion i suspect from the interview. But it's a business and Keon is his tool to prove out his business model to other players and then Coaches scouts etc

 

 Let us hope ( and I do ) .. via Buddha or Baby Jesus .. that they both succeed !

 

[3rdand12]

13 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Gotta keep em guessing

 -( seems to be the method of operation ) from where i sit lol

 

 

Crazy coverage ability (always right over your shoulder), but almost a willful inability to take the ball away. Like Leodis McKelvin, basically. 

 

 -The Leodis  analogy lol . thought same . Perhaps that ball had a destiny ahead along another path ?

Leodis finally played the ball in air as a receiver in his last years ( my heart still hurts from the strokes he gave me )

 

 

I mean, a 6'6" beast out of Auburn could dunk, yeah...

 - Love the Buddha reference upstream 😇

my comments are above ^

Edited July 2 by 3rdand12

[13 Seconds to Mars]

On 6/30/2026 at 8:33 PM, PoundingDog said:

A 7th rounder played on terrible teams who got a big 2nd contract. Many believed Stevie is an over-achiever. But it's clear the guy had it above the shoulders. 

 

On the other hand, it speaks volume how little Keon has learned thru his first 2 years. Is it the WR coach or it's Keon himself? We are going to see this season. If Keon does improve and become a reliable target for Allen, I think Stevie Johnson will get a lot of new business as a "mentor." Having the knowledge is one thing. Identifying someone's problem is another. Then the ability getting it to the person is often the most difficult part in coaching/mentoring world.

 

I'm also surprised to hear his answer on running the ball. Just another proof I think the guy has it above his shoulders. 

 

 

 

It definitely wasn’t a surprise to Kentucky fans and Bills fans heavy into college football. The most hyped WR before he played a down other than Da’Rick Rodgers. Then he started dominating in Training Camp and that made me put my antennaes up. The rest is history. Stevie popularized Bills Mafia and made Buffalo cool again. Such an unconventional receiver. 

[Buffalo716]

Guy who said why so serious? 

 

He was an unorthodox route runner that gave some people fits.. a likeable dude and solid receiver 

 

I'm going to say his brain power isn't his forte because it's so serious because it's his job and he's getting paid millions of dollars to be a professional football player 

 

He also blamed God after dropping a game-winning pass so I'm going to say upstairs not his forte

Edited July 2 by Buffalo716

[Logic]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Guy who said why so serious? 

 

He was an unorthodox route runner that gave some people fits.. a likeable dude and solid receiver 

 

I'm going to say his brain power isn't his forte because it's so serious because it's his job and he's getting paid millions of dollars to be a professional football player 

 

He also blamed God after dropping a game-winning pass so I'm going to say upstairs not his forte

LOL.

It was just a play on a Joker quote, because Ochocinco and TO called themselves Batman and Robin, so Stevie was insinuating that by ruining the Bengals' day, he was being the villain.

Ya know...like...The Joker to their Batman and Robin.

Or, as Stevie would say in response to your post: Why so serious?
 

[Buffalo716]

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

LOL.

It was just a play on a Joker quote, because Ochocinco and TO called themselves Batman and Robin, so Stevie was insinuating that by ruining the Bengals' day, he was being the villain.

Ya know...like...The Joker to their Batman and Robin.

Or, as Stevie would say in response to your post: Why so serious?
 

I mean he also blamed God at the podium 

 

He was a solid football player I would not say his brains were his forte again

 

I never watched or listened Stevie and said that guy has it all upstairs like the original post says lol

 

Not trying to call him dumb but that certainly was never the first five things I thought about Stevie.. he's on orthodoxy crafty route running for sure that doesn't mean he's all above the neck

 

Just wouldn't be one of the top three ways I described him

Edited July 2 by Buffalo716