Red vs Blue Scrimmage Tickets ???

[eball]

16 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

Yes sadly that is our society and Country in general these days.  It's just disappointing to me because one of the things I fell in love with about being a Bills fan when I was young was the sense of comradery amongst WNYer's and being in it together but between the politics of the world and the divide between the haves and have nots now with the PSL's it just isn't the case anymore 😔

The country is a mess but Bills Mafia is just fine. 
 

[BillsPride12]

4 hours ago, eball said:

The country is a mess but Bills Mafia is just fine. 
 

What I said is not wrong.  The arguing and name calling and overall nastiness between both sides of this argument this past week has been BRUTAL.

Maybe you don't pay attention to it but it exists 

[eball]

2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

What I said is not wrong.  The arguing and name calling and overall nastiness between both sides of this argument this past week has been BRUTAL.

Maybe you don't pay attention to it but it exists 

 

I don’t live in the area and I don’t listen to Buffalo radio so I guess I’m just not aware of it…but I think it will calm down with time.

 

[Chaos]

On 7/6/2026 at 10:33 AM, Billsflyer12 said:

Right?  Must be a total socialist to whine about a billionaire owner reducing the supply by 15% and then increasing prices more than 100% on season tickets, while individual tickets increased 3-4 times in value.  Terry is a true capitalist hero, we should just be thanking him everyday that we even have a team.

 

Did I get this right?

No

[blitzboy54]

4 hours ago, eball said:

 

I don’t live in the area and I don’t listen to Buffalo radio so I guess I’m just not aware of it…but I think it will calm down with time.

 

 

I'm not so sure. We went from an 80k seat stadium to 71k to now 60K.  The inventory is tight and because of the PSL's and low ticket volume prices are insane. It will settle down some when the newness of the stadium wears off BUT there is now a divide between the haves and the have not's that never existed before. We may end up all kind of resenting this thing at some point. I hope not but early signs are not great. 

 

 

[eball]

9 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

there is now a divide between the haves and the have not's that never existed before

 

It existed, it just wasn't as "in your face" as it is now. I think for the next couple of years fans who used to go to two or three games a year will instead save up and go to one. I know this rubs some people the wrong way, but I do think it was time for the Buffalo Bills in-stadium experience to "grow up" a bit.

 

What I'm hoping is that the tailgaters will continue to do their thing, but a lot of them won't be going to the games so the crowd will be a little less "unkempt."

 

I guess at the end of the day I don't have a problem with fans taking "ownership" over their seats in the new barn when they've shelled out thousands of dollars for them, but I do think them being "angry" about the Bills hosting an open practice for non-PSL owners is sort of silly.

 

 

[Sierra Foothills]

Over the years the Bills have transitioned from a Volume approach to business (selling a high quantity) towards a Value approach (selling a premium experience).

 

This is consistent with most industries... which doesn't make it right or wrong.

 

One legitimate question is whether there they could have implemented a better balance between the two approaches.

 

 

[JohnnyCash]

On 7/9/2026 at 8:57 PM, BillsPride12 said:

Someone called in to WGR this morning and said he doesn't want any peasants sitting in his PSL seat for a practice and Owen Parker went off on him.

Fake talk radio outrage.  No one would seriously take that stance…unless they are a moron bordering on being an idiot.  
😂

Edited July 11 by JohnnyCash

[BillsPride12]

3 hours ago, blitzboy54 said:

 

I'm not so sure. We went from an 80k seat stadium to 71k to now 60K.  The inventory is tight and because of the PSL's and low ticket volume prices are insane. It will settle down some when the newness of the stadium wears off BUT there is now a divide between the haves and the have not's that never existed before. We may end up all kind of resenting this thing at some point. I hope not but early signs are not great. 

 

 

I mean from a business standpoint and for the Bills to remain viable in today's NFL it had to happen. I'm not disputing that.  I know Terry Pegula and Roger Goodell have no regrets over this.

 

With that said from a fan perspective, unfortunately there is an ugliness left over from such a major transition that we will have to deal with, of course the fans that got priced out of the stadium are not going to be happy.  Also I haven't been impressed with some PSL holders holier than though attitude either.  It's a shame but it's the world we live in. 

30 minutes ago, JohnnyCash said:

Fake talk radio outrage.  No one would seriously take that stance…unless they are a moron bordering on being an idiot.  
😂

It's not fake talk radio outrage, people have been arguing and bickering over this all over social media for the last week and a half ever since the first practice was announced.

 

Fans that are getting priced out of everything are pissed, and some(keyword here) PSL holders have been acting like real jerks about it.  It has been a HUGE discussion for the last week or so. 

[JohnnyCash]

52 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

Fans that are getting priced out of everything are pissed, and some(keyword here) PSL holders have been acting like real jerks about it.  It has been a HUGE discussion for the last week or so. 

Maybe arguing about who should be able to attend the first event, but a PSL owner not wanting a “peasant” sitting in their seat is about as fake as can be.  Will they also be outraged when some 20 something attends a concert, sitting in their seat, while drunk beyond belief?

Edited July 11 by JohnnyCash

[Just Jack]

I wonder if there is any correlation between the PSL holders being outraged by this third event (second practice) in the stadium, and the ones reselling tickets to all the games. 

[BillsPride12]

21 minutes ago, JohnnyCash said:

Maybe arguing about who should be able to attend the first event, but a PSL owner not wanting a “peasant” sitting in their seat is about as fake as can be.  Will they also be outraged when some 20 something attends a concert, sitting in their seat, while drunk beyond belief?

That call might have been a trolling attempt no doubt but there has still been alot of complaining from the PSL holders about the second practice.  The most common thing I am seeing is they are upset because they feel like "it's a breach in their contract"

Honestly I think alot of them are just mad because they want to resell as much of that kinda stuff as they can to get back some of the money they just shelled out for those PSLs

2 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

I wonder if there is any correlation between the PSL holders being outraged by this third event (second practice) in the stadium, and the ones reselling tickets to all the games. 

Bingo

[Virgil]

1 hour ago, Just Jack said:

I wonder if there is any correlation between the PSL holders being outraged by this third event (second practice) in the stadium, and the ones reselling tickets to all the games. 

I agree with this to an extent.  It’s always been a scam to me that season ticket holders are required to buy preseason games and the tickets are full price.  
 

So I can’t blame a ST from trying to recoup some of that money.  The appeal of seeing the stadium in year one is driving prices and I can’t blame understand ST trying to get some of their PSL money back too 

[Just Jack]

2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

That call might have been a trolling attempt no doubt but there has still been alot of complaining from the PSL holders about the second practice.  The most common thing I am seeing is they are upset because they feel like "it's a breach in their contract"

Honestly I think alot of them are just mad because they want to resell as much of that kinda stuff as they can to get back some of the money they just shelled out for those PSLs

 

If they had read their contract before signing, they would have seen the section about how the Bills and others can hold events at the stadium that PSL holders do not get first dibs on seats. 

 

37 minutes ago, Virgil said:

So I can’t blame a ST from trying to recoup some of that money.  The appeal of seeing the stadium in year one is driving prices and I can’t blame understand ST trying to get some of their PSL money back too 

 

I've got one of the cheapest PSLs, over the 30 years, my cost per game is $6/game. These people trying to get it all back the first year are ridiculous. 

Edited July 12 by Just Jack

[loyal2dagame]

What is all this haves vs have not crap? It's disgusting. All Bills fans had the same opportunity to have season tickets,  whether wealthy or not.

Let's not act like the Bills don't have payment plans for both season tickets and PSLs. The lowest cost of 1 season ticket is about the same as buying 1 large Tim Hortons coffee daily for 1 year.

Losers need to stop with the have vs have nots. It's about where you spend disposable income. Some people spend crazy money on Starbucks and door dash and then complain they can't pay their rent or bills. This isn't a socialist program,  and nobody tells anyone how to spend their money.

[Casual fan]

On 7/10/2026 at 8:58 AM, BillsPride12 said:

Owen hung up on him after that comment.  It is bizarre.  I think both parties are to blame and not every PSL holder/non PSL holder fits into these categories but there's been too much whining and complaining from those that can't afford PSL's and there's also been too much sense of entitlement and just being a Dbag from certain PSL holders that are acting like they are better than the fans that can't afford it.  It's sad really to see this division amongst the fanbase. 

I'm sure there are many wonderful salt-of-the-earth people who can;t afford it who are better than the average PSL seat holder.

 

I'm not one of them. Most PSL seat holders are probably better than me.

But they shouldn't say that about everyone!

[Just Jack]

2 hours ago, loyal2dagame said:

Losers need to stop with the have vs have nots. It's about where you spend disposable income. Some people spend crazy money on Starbucks and door dash and then complain they can't pay their rent or bills. 

 

I know someone that lives paycheck to paycheck, yet they will buy Starbucks multiple times a day. If they would just cut out one of those drinks a day, that's an easy $35-$70 extra they would have each week. 

[Bills!Win!]

Looking for 2 tickets. I will pay 

[sven233]

I know it will never happen (I think they may have done it once many many years ago), but they should broadcast the Blue vs Red on their website.  It's the first event of the stadium and even if I can't be there in person, I would love to be a part of it in some way, even if it is just looking at the atmosphere of a practice.  But, I know the Bills hate any video being taken of their practices, so I doubt that this is even a consideration.

[BillsPride12]

7 hours ago, sven233 said:

I know it will never happen (I think they may have done it once many many years ago), but they should broadcast the Blue vs Red on their website.  It's the first event of the stadium and even if I can't be there in person, I would love to be a part of it in some way, even if it is just looking at the atmosphere of a practice.  But, I know the Bills hate any video being taken of their practices, so I doubt that this is even a consideration.

I can see them filming some of it and releasing it as a Beyond Blue and Red...In fact I expect them to do that