The Wiz Posted July 2 Posted July 2 On 6/29/2026 at 8:17 AM, corta765 said: Two things: 1. It was kinda stolen in many ways with Texas A&M & Seattle to a lesser extent. The 12th man moniker itself was something very prevelant in language to describe fans during the late 80s/90s in all sports especially football which was why it went up on the wall to honor Bills fans. 2. Bills mafia has blown to pieces any need for the 12th man and that will be forever the moniker Bills fans are known by the same way Packer fans are cheese heads or Dallas Americas team etc... its a cool thing honestly and the fact it is truly an organic thing made by Del and not manufactured out of the gate is pretty awesome. Enough so that the bills trademarked it and sent cease and desists of their own to people selling stuff online with it. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Picture how ridiculous it would be if some team just tried to claim “mafia.” Imagine people walking around like “Texans Mafia” or “Cardinals Mafia!!” That’s basically what we did with 12th man (but everyone was doing it). 1 1 Quote
corta765 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 14 hours ago, The Wiz said: Enough so that the bills trademarked it and sent cease and desists of their own to people selling stuff online with it. Yep its built some incredible power and honestly that is a really good thing Quote
first_and_ten Posted July 2 Posted July 2 On 6/29/2026 at 8:09 AM, BillsPride12 said: Interesting chat on WGR550 this morning about how not only will OJ not be getting his name in the ring of honor but doesn't sound like the 12th Man is getting one either. Then they talked about does that even matter and they both agreed no not really. They went on to talk about how nobody ever refers to Bills fans as the 12th Man anymore and Seattle took that over in the NFL with the 12s. I would say that's all true, I couldn't tell you the last time I remember anybody bringing up the 12th Man but it is kinda funny when you think about what a big deal that was in the 90s and into the 2000s. The obvious answer to my question is it was replaced by Bills Mafia, I know that. But did it happen overnight or was it just a thing that was gradually phased out into oblivion. I feel like in the early days of Bills Mafia the 12th Man was also still a thing? Not sure if Seattle's rise with it's Super Bowl team and all of the hype they got around calling their fans the 12s also stole some of that shine from the Bills 12th Man days. Even more interesting, will 60,000 fans create the same noise level as before? Quote
machine gun kelly Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Not worried about 12th man, as it’s true as KJ was first to mention it started with Texas A&M. I’d love to see Bills Mafia up there. I do think #32 would’ve been ok, but respect their wishes. OJ literally was the best RB of all time at least in 1973. He ran for more yards per game than anyone before or since. In 14 games at 2003, 143.07 yards per game. I’ve said it before and later, Not even Jim Brown in 12 games or the other 2000 yarders achieved 143.07 per game. Now he is a despicable human being post football. I believe every horrible thing alleged, and glad he’s gone. He was a four time all pro and MVP. I know his name should never go up, and wholeheartedly agree, but my point is what he did on the field was amazing. I think people are still embarrassed how he demonstrated himself post career. At first, he was funny with the Hertz commercials, the Towering Inferno (yes, Chandman I remember his cameo), Nordberg in the Naked Gun, and so on. He destroyed his reputation in the 90’s and after. That has nothing to do with what he did for Buffalo during his career. Maybe my point of view is unpopular, but I don’t take into acct. His post career horrible behavior. Anyway, I thought just 32 would’ve been ok be a compromise. I really don’t care otherwise. So many people with indignation never watched him live in the 70’s as they are too young. He was the bright spot with the electric company paving the way. Quote
BillsPride12 Posted July 2 Author Posted July 2 1 hour ago, first_and_ten said: Even more interesting, will 60,000 fans create the same noise level as before? I don't think that should be a problem. I think with the acoustics of the new stadium design it will actually be louder than the old stadium Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted July 2 Posted July 2 On 6/29/2026 at 8:09 AM, BillsPride12 said: Interesting chat on WGR550 this morning about how not only will OJ not be getting his name in the ring of honor but doesn't sound like the 12th Man is getting one either. Then they talked about does that even matter and they both agreed no not really. They went on to talk about how nobody ever refers to Bills fans as the 12th Man anymore and Seattle took that over in the NFL with the 12s. I would say that's all true, I couldn't tell you the last time I remember anybody bringing up the 12th Man but it is kinda funny when you think about what a big deal that was in the 90s and into the 2000s. The obvious answer to my question is it was replaced by Bills Mafia, I know that. But did it happen overnight or was it just a thing that was gradually phased out into oblivion. I feel like in the early days of Bills Mafia the 12th Man was also still a thing? Not sure if Seattle's rise with it's Super Bowl team and all of the hype they got around calling their fans the 12s also stole some of that shine from the Bills 12th Man days. The 'bottom line' has replaced 'respect' for season ticket holders, and the greater fan base. Sign on the times..... Quote
WotAGuy Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) Sorry to disappoint you all, but they ARE going to honor the fans, with a granite monument labeled “12th Non-menstruating Human”. Edited July 2 by WotAGuy 4 Quote
akcash Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) I agree it should be there. I like how our 12th man ability is just organic, natural and second nature and it’s not manufactured like Seattle. They’re whole 12th man ceremony before every game bugs the it out of me. Edited July 2 by akcash Quote
Buffalo ill Posted July 3 Posted July 3 It became obsolete when you all wore those horrible iced out jerseys and then the Bills lost the game. White out games should be punished by loses every time. 1 1 Quote
Jalan81 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 On 6/30/2026 at 3:32 PM, Jay_Fixit said: It's actually embarrassing when that ***** plays. Why? 9 hours ago, first_and_ten said: Even more interesting, will 60,000 fans create the same noise level as before? Yes the roof is designed to reflect the noise just like Seattle’s fake loudest fans. Quote
Boatdrinks Posted July 6 Posted July 6 On 7/2/2026 at 12:58 PM, first_and_ten said: Even more interesting, will 60,000 fans create the same noise level as before? With the design of the new stadium, I’d say it’s very possible. Quote
Chandler#81 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 On 6/29/2026 at 10:57 AM, Jay_Fixit said: We have a much cooler #12 that's retired anyway. Lamonica?😳 Quote
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