If you weren't thrilled about the Brady hire as HC do you feel any better about it now?

[GoBills808]

9 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

Every year, there are 3-5 teams that enter the postseason with a serious reason to believe they can win it all.  

The other playoff teams are just hoping for lucky bounces, and scraping together some upsets.

 

The Bills have been "close"... in the sense they have been part of that top group for the last 5-6 seasons.  And the fact that most of their playoff losses (outside of the first Chiefs game and Bengals) came down to a single play or two, and otherwise they would have advanced to the next round.  I would definitely say they have been way higher than #4-8 over the last few years.  Probably Top 5 at absolute worst.

 

In my opinion, the Bills were the hottest team in the NFL entering the 2021 playoffs.  The only thing that could stop them was a freaky sequence of plays... which of course is what happened with 13 seconds.  I also think the Bills had the best overall team in the NFL in 2022.  Then they lost Micah Hyde, Von Miller and had Damar Hamlin almost die.  Both of these years, I would say we were #1-2 ranked in the whole league.

 

Last year was probably the lowest the Bills have been ranked going into the playoffs, and they were still the favorite of many to represent the AFC.

I've never felt we were close since 2021 tbh

 

The 'playoff caliber' messaging was spot on. We were a playoff caliber squad w out ever being championship quality

 

 

[Buffalo03]

8 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

The candidates they interviewed were largely a joke. It's the kind of interview round you do when you already have your guy. There wasn't a single legitimate candidate on the entire list outside of Brady.

Ok but OP said they didn't interview "a lot" of candidates, not bad candidates. 9 is plenty

[Nihilarian]

5 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

I don't actually think it's the case for most Bills fans, but it's definitely the case for me.

We lost to the Broncos due to systemic faults in roster, strategy and execution, not just one play. Thinking that losing by 3 points in a division game where the victor would go on to be beaten by a team who played us very tough twice, including beating us once, and then in turn would be embarrassed in the Super Bowl isn't reasonable. The Seahawks offense would have put us in the wood chipper. We may have scored more than the Pats did, but we had no answer for their running game nor JSN. Nowhere near close to winning a SB.
 

 

Same thing here. Philly would have brutalized us. They were better in every facet of the game. This is actually the one time where you oudl argue we were close to making a Super Bowl, but we had no shot at winning it. Not close to winning a SB

 

This game wasn't that close either. Even if we kicked the FG, KC moved the ball down the field with ease after we missed the kick. They would have scored a FG at minimum. Our terrible clock management doomed us regardless of the kick. Also, this is another divisional game where you have to imagine us winning 2 more games vs top-tier opponents. Not close at all to winning a SB.

I wholeheartedly agree that things might have looked bad for the Buffalo Bills had they made it to any of the Super Bowls. That's the thing, though, they would have made it to an SB!

 

Look at the playoff game against the 13-3 Jacksonville Jaguars this past season. The Bills were on the road as underdogs to a better team that had a top 10 offense and defense. That Jags team was #1 against the run. So what happened? McDermott put on a clinic with his defense in the first half, giving Jags QB Trevor Lawrence fits. Lawrence threw two interceptions in that game. Buffalo Josh Allen came alive despite getting beaten up all game. 

 

When you have QB Josh Allen, you can never count the Buffalo Bills out of any game. Even that Denver game, with all the turnovers, it

came down to a bad call by the refs.

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

You don't want to finish 1-16 ideally because it's a miserable experience for the whole year, and you especially don't want to endure multiple seasons of that. At the end of the year though, only one team gets the trophy and everyone else is runner up.

Maybe you do, but I don't think back fondly about times the team almost won.

 

It isn't about thinking back fondly. It is about the reality. If you can't be 1st be 2nd. If you can't be 2nd be 3rd. When you get down to being 23rd and 24th... then sure... better to be 32nd. That's the system. But otherwise it is not true that everyone else is a runner up. There is one runner up and the teams that win their divisions and win playoff games are not the same as the teams that suck. That's reality.

10 hours ago, NoSaint said:

 
I think as Americans we may have a shade more of the Ricky Bobby spirit in us than ol @GunnerBill does. Not saying right or wrong but “if you ain’t first your last” probably resonates differently on this side of the pond 

 

How it resonates isn't the point. It's just wrong in reality. 

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

I was talking about defensive roster turnover.

 

According to Pro Football Reference the Bills played 972 defensive snaps in 2025.

 

This is my original list plus Bosa and Ogunjobi who also will not return in 2026. The players you cited as starters are bolded. Only Spector and Jackson played insignificant snaps last season.

 

Tre’Davious White 828

Taron Johnson 678

Joey Bosa 653

Matt Milano 620

Shaq Thompson 545

DaQuan Jones 512

AJ Epenesa 489

Jordan Poyer 451

Cam Lewis 442

Taylor Rapp 343

Larry Ogunjobi 227

Jordan Phillips 202

Baylon Spector 16

Dane Jackson 4

 

So the Bills will be replacing 14 defensive players who played 6010 defensive snaps in 2025.

 

972 (total number of defensive snaps last year) X 17 (number of games) = 16524 total defensive snaps in 2025

 

6010 divided by 16524 = 36.37%

 

So the Bills will have to replace 14 defensive players who played 36.37% of the total defensive snaps last year.

 

36.37% of 11 starters = 4.0007 which is the equivalent of 4 defensive starters.

 

Any way you cut it up, that's a lot of turnover on the defensive side.

 

 

I still think that is not that far beyond the normal churn - though obviously more slanted to one side of the ball. And my point about them not being aggressive in turning over the D is that is a lot of older, rotational guys and backups who were out of contract in any event. I think a lot of those would not have been back in any event.

[DapperCam]

Still don’t like it. I didn’t think he was a very talented play caller, and I didn’t like his route schemes either.

 

He had a habit of being rigid in his game plan and not having a plan B, if plan A wasn’t working.

 

Considering the Bills had a top-5 offense with Dorsey, Daboll and Brady, I kind of think the QB was the real difference maker there…

 

 

My current coping mechanism is assuming it was actually McDermott making Brady a bad play caller, and that now he is untethered and ready to call plays like it’s 2026.

[Gregg]

16 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

I've never felt we were close since 2021 tbh

 

The 'playoff caliber' messaging was spot on. We were a playoff caliber squad w out ever being championship quality

 

 

 

The Bills were never championship quality because their defense was never really good. Even in the years where they had a high ranking defensively, I always thought they were still a paper tiger defense that built their rankings up by beating bad teams with bad QB's. Whenever they faced a good team with a good QB they got exposed as frauds. That really showed itself in the playoffs either in the divisional round or AFCCG. My hope is that Leonhard can build a good defense. If he can then winning a Super Bowl becomes a real possibility.

[Logic]

On 7/3/2026 at 10:17 AM, Dillenger4 said:

But why would we experience a "drop off" in our run game? We have pretty much the same O line, same RB's, Same QB and same OC/coach. If anything, I see Carmichael adding his run game influence which will only help this team. Adding more screens too. I see our O as being deadly this year. I just don't see why we will have a drop off because we lost our O line coach.

I do understand your comment regarding Brady's O being predictable. But, if our O is what people call predictable - I'll take it all day long as we basically score at will, or at least stay in games. Get the D humming this season and it's Lombardi time. Trust me.

As I understand it, Aaron Kromer was not just our o-line coach, he was our run game coordinator. He had a big hand in the success of the Bills' run game.

Further, even though a lot of our OL personnel itself is unchanged, the OL coach is gone. And he was a particularly fantastic OL coach. Granted, the situations are not apples to apples, but take a look at what happened to the Pats when legendary OL coach Dante Scarnecchia left. That's what I fear happening here.

[Dillenger4]

49 minutes ago, Logic said:

As I understand it, Aaron Kromer was not just our o-line coach, he was our run game coordinator. He had a big hand in the success of the Bills' run game.

Further, even though a lot of our OL personnel itself is unchanged, the OL coach is gone. And he was a particularly fantastic OL coach. Granted, the situations are not apples to apples, but take a look at what happened to the Pats when legendary OL coach Dante Scarnecchia left. That's what I fear happening here.

All good. I just don't see it. But I guess we will find out.

[NoSaint]

13 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

 

How it resonates isn't the point. It's just wrong in reality. 

See - that’s why I’m getting ready for a monster truck rally this weekend and gunner is longing for air conditioning. 
 

just some fundamental differences 🤣 

 

(tongue firmly in cheek)

[Kirby Jackson]

14 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It isn't about thinking back fondly. It is about the reality. If you can't be 1st be 2nd. If you can't be 2nd be 3rd. When you get down to being 23rd and 24th... then sure... better to be 32nd. That's the system. But otherwise it is not true that everyone else is a runner up. There is one runner up and the teams that win their divisions and win playoff games are not the same as the teams that suck. That's reality.

 

How it resonates isn't the point. It's just wrong in reality. 

 

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

See - that’s why I’m getting ready for a monster truck rally this weekend and gunner is longing for air conditioning. 
 

just some fundamental differences 🤣 

 

(tongue firmly in cheek)

I do think it’s a cultural difference. There is also an element of tanking culture here that doesn’t exist elsewhere. I would rather my team by 3-14 than 8-9 or 9-8 missing the playoffs. Bottoming out brings about change. It brings leadership change, player change, cultural change AND moves you up the draft board. US sports all award the worst teams with the best talent entering the league. That’s a major difference. 

[GaryPinC]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

I do think it’s a cultural difference. There is also an element of tanking culture here that doesn’t exist elsewhere. I would rather my team by 3-14 than 8-9 or 9-8 missing the playoffs. Bottoming out brings about change. It brings leadership change, player change, cultural change AND moves you up the draft board. US sports all award the worst teams with the best talent entering the league. That’s a major difference. 

It may also be that he is just a very literal human being and we are discussing a philosophy/mentality to help shape reality.

[Nihilarian]

6 hours ago, Logic said:

As I understand it, Aaron Kromer was not just our o-line coach, he was our run game coordinator. He had a big hand in the success of the Bills' run game.

Further, even though a lot of our OL personnel itself is unchanged, the OL coach is gone. And he was a particularly fantastic OL coach. Granted, the situations are not apples to apples, but take a look at what happened to the Pats when legendary OL coach Dante Scarnecchia left. That's what I fear happening here.

It really makes me wonder what Joe Brady is bringing to the offense if he wasn't the architect of that #1 run game...

 

Will we see an offense as we saw against the Rams and Lions in 2024, or the 2025 one we saw against the Falcons, the Dolphins in week 10, or the Texans with Josh getting sacked 8 times?

 

Troublesome thoughts here, as did the Buffalo Bills fire the right guy?  We will know soon enough after week one against the Texans on the road. Then the Lions, Chargers, Patriots, and then on the road, at the Rams, to follow. No gimmies in those first five games. 

[Kirby Jackson]

27 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

It really makes me wonder what Joe Brady is bringing to the offense if he wasn't the architect of that #1 run game...

 

Will we see an offense as we saw against the Rams and Lions in 2024, or the 2025 one we saw against the Falcons, the Dolphins in week 10, or the Texans with Josh getting sacked 8 times?

 

Troublesome thoughts here, as did the Buffalo Bills fire the right guy?  We will know soon enough after week one against the Texans on the road. Then the Lions, Chargers, Patriots, and then on the road, at the Rams, to follow. No gimmies in those first five games. 

Did they fire the right guy and did they hire the right guy are not the same question. McDermott had plenty of chances. Firing him was absolutely the right decision. Hiring Brady may or may not have been the right decision. We won’t know that until after playoffs. Brady wasn’t hired because of what has happened in the regular season. McDermott was fired for his playoff failings. Brady will be judged on that and that alone. 

Edited July 6 by Kirby Jackson

[Nihilarian]

On another note, screw the "If you're not first, you're last stuff. Being close to contending for the Championship and winning the division means everything in my view.

 

It's not all about being last, so you can draft better. If that were the case, then the bottom-feeder teams like the NY Jets and the Cleveland Browns wouldn't stay at the bottom.

 

Look at the Rams and all the draft picks given up to other teams over the years. Trading for Matthew Stafford and now Myles Garrett. They have been to the SB 2x in 2019 and won in 2022. 

 

The Rams have utilized an aggressive "eff them picks" strategy over the last decade, famously trading away nine of their last 10 first-round selections for proven, established talent like Matthew Stafford, Jalen Ramsey, Brandin Cooks, and Myles Garrett. Rather than drafting unproven rookies, they built a consistent contender—winning a Super Bowl—by prioritizing veteran impact.

 

Despite operating largely without first-round picks, the Rams rank highly in drafting efficiency, uncovering premium talent in the middle to late rounds, such as wide receiver Puka Nacua and running back Kyren Williams.

 

The Eagles, Chiefs, Ravens, and 49ers are other teams always in the hunt. 

 

 

Lastly, was McDermott hamstrung with inferior players on the defense? Where was the pass rush this season? The best pass rusher in Buffalo had only 7 sacks from Groot, not in one game, but all season long. From Week 10 onward, their pressure rate fell to 32% (ranking 31st in the NFL).  Buffalo had 36 sacks on the season, and Denver had 68. Bills fans were complaining that the defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd down. The secondary can't hold contain forever with little or no pressure. 

 

Where are the AllPros/ProBowlers for the Buffalo defense? Also, all I kept reading over the last few seasons right here in this forum, in post after post, was where was that X-boundary WR for Josh? Looks to me like it wasn't the HC wasting these last few years of our Superstar QB. 

 

So, who was the guy responsible for hiring the current GM, Brandon Beane, and the current HC, Joe Brady? Yeah...

[BillsFan130]

2 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

It really makes me wonder what Joe Brady is bringing to the offense if he wasn't the architect of that #1 run game...

 

Will we see an offense as we saw against the Rams and Lions in 2024, or the 2025 one we saw against the Falcons, the Dolphins in week 10, or the Texans with Josh getting sacked 8 times?

 

Troublesome thoughts here, as did the Buffalo Bills fire the right guy?  We will know soon enough after week one against the Texans on the road. Then the Lions, Chargers, Patriots, and then on the road, at the Rams, to follow. No gimmies in those first five games. 

Pegula clearly said that Mcdermott and the defence were the problem.  Which he is objectively correct in my opinion, especially with the D failures in the playoffs.

 

They didn't want to blow everything up, especially the offence as it really wasn't needed. Which is why I think Brady was promoted.

 

Also a good chance Brady was held back by Mcdermott. We will see, but I strongly believe that was the case and that we will see a much more aggressive approach on offence.

[SunDSolar]

On 7/6/2026 at 4:49 PM, Nihilarian said:

Troublesome thoughts here, as did the Buffalo Bills fire the right guy?  We will know soon enough after week one against the Texans on the road. Then the Lions, Chargers, Patriots, and then on the road, at the Rams, to follow. No gimmies in those first five games. 

 

Yes they fired the right guy.  McDermott had to go, he was defensive minded coach who could not coach a defense to stop the playoff caliber offenses.

 

Did we hire the right guy is the question.  I didn't like the hiring but maybe Brady was handcuffed, who knows

 

Like I said before we won't have to wait long to see.  Week 1 at the Texans will show us a lot right away.

[SunDSolar]

On 7/6/2026 at 6:38 PM, Nihilarian said:

Lastly, was McDermott hamstrung with inferior players on the defense? Where was the pass rush this season? The best pass rusher in Buffalo had only 7 sacks from Groot, not in one game, but all season long. From Week 10 onward, their pressure rate fell to 32% (ranking 31st in the NFL).  Buffalo had 36 sacks on the season, and Denver had 68. Bills fans were complaining that the defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd down. The secondary can't hold contain forever with little or no pressure. 

 

Where are the AllPros/ProBowlers for the Buffalo defense?

 

C'mon now, Mcdermotts defense scheme did not allow for a top sack presence to emerge.

 

First he relied on a rotation system that had guys playing 65% or less of the downs.

 

But second and more importantly his assignment-heavy, gap-disciplined scheme required edge rushers to prioritize outside containment, heavily limiting ⁠Buffalo Bills sack totals on early downs and resulting in an over-reliance on rushing just four players.

 

Ends are asked to "hold the edge" and seal outside gaps, preventing aggressive, upfield penetration. Sacks are primarily generated by pinning ears back and getting vertical, which directly conflicts with the strict run-containment rules emphasized in Mcdermotts defensive philosophy.

[Nihilarian]

12 hours ago, SunDSolar said:

C'mon now, Mcdermotts defense scheme did not allow for a top sack presence to emerge.

 

First he relied on a rotation system that had guys playing 65% or less of the downs.

 

But second and more importantly his assignment-heavy, gap-disciplined scheme required edge rushers to prioritize outside containment, heavily limiting ⁠Buffalo Bills sack totals on early downs and resulting in an over-reliance on rushing just four players.

 

Ends are asked to "hold the edge" and seal outside gaps, preventing aggressive, upfield penetration. Sacks are primarily generated by pinning ears back and getting vertical, which directly conflicts with the strict run-containment rules emphasized in Mcdermotts defensive philosophy.

 What complete nonsense...Last season, the Buffalo defense was very bad, and mostly against the run.  Struggles on Early and Late Downs: The defense struggled to stop opponents on short-yardage situations and finished 20th in the NFL in late-down success rate. Because the defense had trouble getting opponents off the field, they were often forced out of optimal, pass-rushing sub-packages

 

“The Bills' defense is 31st in opponent yards before contact/carry *and* 31st in yards after contact/carry.”, indicating poor tackling, positioning, and coverage. Motion and alignment: Analysts noted constant displacement of defenders, especially in the second and third levels, making it hard to keep up with offensive motion. The 2025 Buffalo Bills were 28th in rushing yards allowed. 31st in rushing TDs allowed. 30th in rushing yards allowed per attempt.

 

Poor Run Defense: Buffalo struggled heavily against the run, giving up at least 189 rushing yards in six different games. This inability to stop the ground game allowed opposing offenses to stay on schedule and lean on play-action, which reduces the number of obvious, predictable passing situations required to hunt for sacks.

 

Lack of a Dominant Edge Rusher: The defensive line struggled to generate individual pressure. Veteran Joey Bosa recorded only 5.0 sacks, while A.J. Epenesa saw his production dip to 2.5 sacks. Only Greg Rousseau managed to hit a respectable number, leading the team with 7.0 sacks.

 

With 6 of the 9 2025 draft picks were spent on the defensive side, and how many had any kind of impact last season? The 2024 draft picks saw 5 defensive players drafted, and only Cole Bishop has amounted to anything. SAF, DT, LB, DE, CB. A first-round pick in Kaiir Elam ring a bell? A second round pick in Boogie Basham ring a bell?

 

Tre'Davious White (CB)

Jordan Poyer (S)

Matt Milano (LB)

DaQuan Jones (DT)

Taylor Rapp (S)

Shaq Thompson (LB)

Brandin Cooks (WR)

Gabe Davis (WR)

Jordan Phillips (DL)

Cameron Lewis (CB)

Sam Franklin (S)

Damar Hamlin (S)

Joey Bosa...

 

This tells a story of the 2025 Buffalo Bills' unsigned free agents in 2026. Yes, some are older, and most are on the defensive side. 

 

NOW: The Buffalo Bills' rookie DC, Bobby Babich, would call the defensive signals. Which unfortunately didn't work out so well, so that HC McDermott would take over the play calling in the second half. The Buffalo defense was like night and day in some games,  in which the defense would play so much better.

 

Halftime Adjustments: Under Babich, the Buffalo defense frequently surrendered heavy yardage early in games (such as giving up over 300 total yards in the first half of a loss to the Atlanta Falcons). Once McDermott stepped in or took a more hands-on role at halftime, the Buffalo defense consistently locked down opponents, allowing only minimal points (e.g., holding teams to 3 points in a half).

 

Scheme and Aggressiveness: Babich's play-calling sometimes showed early vulnerabilities against both the pass and the run. When McDermott took over, the scheme became noticeably more ferocious, aggressive, and blitz-heavy, which disrupted opposing quarterbacks.

 

 

Lastly, QUESTION: Where are all the superstars, or just stars, on the Buffalo defensive side? Where are the AllPros/ProBowlers for the Buffalo defense? I've been reading in this forum for years from Buffalo Bills fans stating that the defensive side is and has been lacking star players.

Mostly just JAGS, McDermott's fault for everything, right? 

 

[Sierra Foothills]

4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

 What complete nonsense...Last season, the Buffalo defense was very bad, and mostly against the run.  Struggles on Early and Late Downs: The defense struggled to stop opponents on short-yardage situations and finished 20th in the NFL in late-down success rate. Because the defense had trouble getting opponents off the field, they were often forced out of optimal, pass-rushing sub-packages

 

“The Bills' defense is 31st in opponent yards before contact/carry *and* 31st in yards after contact/carry.”, indicating poor tackling, positioning, and coverage. Motion and alignment: Analysts noted constant displacement of defenders, especially in the second and third levels, making it hard to keep up with offensive motion. The 2025 Buffalo Bills were 28th in rushing yards allowed. 31st in rushing TDs allowed. 30th in rushing yards allowed per attempt.

 

Poor Run Defense: Buffalo struggled heavily against the run, giving up at least 189 rushing yards in six different games. This inability to stop the ground game allowed opposing offenses to stay on schedule and lean on play-action, which reduces the number of obvious, predictable passing situations required to hunt for sacks.

 

Lack of a Dominant Edge Rusher: The defensive line struggled to generate individual pressure. Veteran Joey Bosa recorded only 5.0 sacks, while A.J. Epenesa saw his production dip to 2.5 sacks. Only Greg Rousseau managed to hit a respectable number, leading the team with 7.0 sacks.

 

With 6 of the 9 2025 draft picks were spent on the defensive side, and how many had any kind of impact last season? The 2024 draft picks saw 5 defensive players drafted, and only Cole Bishop has amounted to anything. SAF, DT, LB, DE, CB. A first-round pick in Kaiir Elam ring a bell? A second round pick in Boogie Basham ring a bell?

 

Tre'Davious White (CB)

Jordan Poyer (S)

Matt Milano (LB)

DaQuan Jones (DT)

Taylor Rapp (S)

Shaq Thompson (LB)

Brandin Cooks (WR)

Gabe Davis (WR)

Jordan Phillips (DL)

Cameron Lewis (CB)

Sam Franklin (S)

Damar Hamlin (S)

Joey Bosa...

 

This tells a story of the 2025 Buffalo Bills' unsigned free agents in 2026. Yes, some are older, and most are on the defensive side. 

 

NOW: The Buffalo Bills' rookie DC, Bobby Babich, would call the defensive signals. Which unfortunately didn't work out so well, so that HC McDermott would take over the play calling in the second half. The Buffalo defense was like night and day in some games,  in which the defense would play so much better.

 

Halftime Adjustments: Under Babich, the Buffalo defense frequently surrendered heavy yardage early in games (such as giving up over 300 total yards in the first half of a loss to the Atlanta Falcons). Once McDermott stepped in or took a more hands-on role at halftime, the Buffalo defense consistently locked down opponents, allowing only minimal points (e.g., holding teams to 3 points in a half).

 

Scheme and Aggressiveness: Babich's play-calling sometimes showed early vulnerabilities against both the pass and the run. When McDermott took over, the scheme became noticeably more ferocious, aggressive, and blitz-heavy, which disrupted opposing quarterbacks.

 

 

Lastly, QUESTION: Where are all the superstars, or just stars, on the Buffalo defensive side? Where are the AllPros/ProBowlers for the Buffalo defense? I've been reading in this forum for years from Buffalo Bills fans stating that the defensive side is and has been lacking star players.

Mostly just JAGS, McDermott's fault for everything, right? 

 

 

Honestly, TL:DR.

 

But to your last paragraph, I guess we'll find out with the departure of the McDermott 13 (Matt Milano (9 seasons), Tre’Davious White (8 seasons), Taron Johnson (8 seasons), Jordan Poyer (8 seasons), AJ Epenesa (6 seasons), Cam Lewis (6 seasons), Jordan Phillips (6 seasons), DaQuan Jones (4 seasons), Baylon Spector (4 seasons), Dane Jackson (5 seasons), Shaq Lawson (5 seasons), Taylor Rapp (3 seasons)and Shaq Thompson (3 seasons: 2 years in Carolina, 1 in Buffalo) if McDermott overly-relied on "reliable, dependable veterans" at the expense of drafting and developing young talent.

 

Further, with the drafting in the last 2 years of 11 defensive players, (Max Hairston, TJ Sanders, Deone Walker, Landon Jackson, Jordan Hancock, TJ Parker, Davison Igbinosun, Kaleb Elarms-Orr, Jalon Kilgore, Zane Durant, and Toriano Pride) we'll see if McDermott was possibly guilty (either via system adherence or failure to connect with young players) of not being able to bring out the best in his young players.

 

It will be interesting to see how Leon Hard's defense differs from McDermott's.

 

I think the results will speak for themselves.