BringBackFergy Posted July 15 Posted July 15 25 minutes ago, 13 Seconds to Mars said: He’s a dynamic QB, but relies too much on his athleticism. I think he’ll start to flame out when he loses his elusiveness into his 30s. Receivers won’t be as open as they usually are because of the threat of his scrambling. But that’s really on him. Mike Vick had a career resurgence under Andy Reid when he lost a step because he learned to pass first. With that being said, I think dropping 67 spots is overkill. He’s still a top 10 QB. John Harbaugh’s post-season coaching was just as horrendous as McDermott’s, but on the offensive side. He’s never had an elite boundary WR either. I am very intrigued to see what Lamar can do with a better coaching staff. It’s almost like Harbaugh purposely threw games. How many times has he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory against Buffalo alone? He may be a Top 10 QB, but that’s a far cry from Top 10 best players in the NFL. Not even sure JA17 is Top 10 Player. 1 3 4 4 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted July 15 Posted July 15 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: 69th? Niiice Gronk approves... 1 Quote
CSBill Posted July 15 Posted July 15 20 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Keep in mind the way the rankings work. They ask players to list their "top 20" players across all positions. So outside of the top-20, most of this list is just math based on who appeared more or less. I'm assuming after a down year, most players just left him off and listed guys from other positions. I'm not much of a Lamar-believer. I've watched him quit on his team too many times. But this #69 does more to discredit the list than Lamar. The entire list/process is subjective at best, and way more about personal preference and taste than any real quantitative or qualitative assessment. How can you rate an Outside Linebacker vs. a Wide Receiver vs. a QB vs. etc., etc.. It's a fun experiment, but nothing but a "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" contest. One place to begin assessing the real top 100 is by looking at salary amounts for individuals and position ranges and distributions. We can all agree the most valuable (best 100) players will generally earn the most money. Assess by considering the individual and position ranges. Then it becomes more subjective as we need to decide if they truly deserve what they are getting. It's a fun process. From my "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" perspective (and from a "best-bang-for-your-buck" perspective), Josh Allen is the #1 player in the league right now. Not even close. 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 15 Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, CSBill said: The entire list/process is subjective at best, and way more about personal preference and taste than any real quantitative or qualitative assessment. How can you rate an Outside Linebacker vs. a Wide Receiver vs. a QB vs. etc., etc.. It's a fun experiment, but nothing but a "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" contest. One place to begin assessing the real top 100 is by looking at salary amounts for individuals and position ranges and distributions. We can all agree the most valuable (best 100) players will generally earn the most money. Assess by considering the individual and position ranges. Then it becomes more subjective as we need to decide if they truly deserve what they are getting. It's a fun process. From my "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" perspective (and from a "best-bang-for-your-buck" perspective), Josh Allen is the #1 player in the league right now. Not even close. This would basically exclude anyone still playing on their rookie contract. And there are a good amount of guys that are still on that original contract that would legitimately be in the top 100. Then with the overinflated QB salaries, you would have 30+ QBs on the list where not all would really be in that range. 2 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 15 Posted July 15 Bo's mother will soon get to the bottom of this! Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted July 15 Posted July 15 10 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: He may be a Top 10 QB, but that’s a far cry from Top 10 best players in the NFL. Not even sure JA17 is Top 10 Player. After sleeping on this, I have to say it's (still) a bizarre statement. 8 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted July 15 Posted July 15 10 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: He may be a Top 10 QB, but that’s a far cry from Top 10 best players in the NFL. Not even sure JA17 is Top 10 Player. Another demented take. 2 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted July 15 Author Posted July 15 11 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: He may be a Top 10 QB, but that’s a far cry from Top 10 best players in the NFL. Not even sure JA17 is Top 10 Player. Delete this. 5 2 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted July 15 Posted July 15 On 7/14/2026 at 6:00 AM, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Lamar Jackson is easily the single most overrated football player I have seen in some time. I have never once understood how he gets the credit he gets. As someone who watches every moment of nfl football that’s available to the general public, he’s an incredible runner. Always has been. Maybe the best runner regardless of position since Barry sanders. He’s not a good passer. I don’t care what stats people want to cherry pick. Watch the games. He only makes easy throws. He can’t throw outside the number, he never uses WRs. He throws passes up the seem to the TE. He uses very little of the field. The ball is never on time. Guys are wide open because of the threat of his legs. He completes passes to guys failing down instead of hitting them in stride constantly. Every WR that goes there mysteriously “stinks” He’s a great athlete and he’s an incredible runner. He’s an average passer and he’s not even on the same planet as the top tier QBs. He’s good and obviously better than most starting QBs. But he’s not in the same conversation as the Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford guys IMO I agree he's overrated, but I think you're overstating it a little bit. Also, Zay Flowers is a WR and he's put up back-to-back 1000 yard seasons with Lamar chucking it to him. Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted July 20 Posted July 20 On 7/14/2026 at 11:20 PM, BringBackFergy said: Not even sure JA17 is Top 10 Player. Humor us. Name 10 players better than Allen. 1 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 20 Posted July 20 On 7/14/2026 at 10:20 PM, BringBackFergy said: He may be a Top 10 QB, but that’s a far cry from Top 10 best players in the NFL. Not even sure JA17 is Top 10 Player. Man you lose a lot of credibility with this comment. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted July 20 Posted July 20 Bo Nix is number 59 on the list. Lamar Jackson is 69. Gtfo 2 3 Quote
ToGoGo Posted July 20 Posted July 20 Curious if this list is payola? But it's long proven to be unserious. Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Dion checks in at #57 So much credibility lost on this list. I like Dion just fine, but in no world is he a better player than Lamar Jackson. 1 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 21 Posted July 21 On 7/14/2026 at 11:20 PM, BringBackFergy said: He may be a Top 10 QB, but that’s a far cry from Top 10 best players in the NFL. Not even sure JA17 is Top 10 Player. Until today I did not realize that Ryan Clark had a burner account here. 2 Quote
MasterStrategist Posted July 21 Posted July 21 3 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: So much credibility lost on this list. I like Dion just fine, but in no world is he a better player than Lamar Jackson. Considering Lamar was glass this past season... he looked like a complete shell of his prior seasons, only 300+ rushing yards for a guy that has ran for 700+ in every season to-date --- and escaping from pressure is his calling card, but he took a ridiculous amount of sacks on top of that. So yes, if you watched Lamar play more than just the game against us --- you'd quickly realize he had an avg season. These top 100 lists are not "who is the best player in NFL", it's who was the best in 2025. I think it's spot on for Lamar. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Just now, MasterStrategist said: Considering Lamar was glass this past season... he looked like a complete shell of his prior seasons, only 300+ rushing yards for a guy that has ran for 700+ in every season to-date --- and escaping from pressure is his calling card, but he took a ridiculous amount of sacks on top of that. So yes, if you watched Lamar play more than just the game against us --- you'd quickly realize he had an avg season. These top 100 lists are not "who is the best player in NFL", it's who was the best in 2025. I think it's spot on for Lamar. It is not. It is the top 100 players of 2026. If you think that there are 68 players in the NFL, including Bo Nix, Trevor Lawrence, that are better than Lamar, we disagree. 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It is not. It is the top 100 players of 2026. If you think that there are 68 players in the NFL, including Bo Nix, Trevor Lawrence, that are better than Lamar, we disagree. Nix obviously isn't as good as Lamar but if you look at their 2025 numbers, they're pretty similar along a couple of key collective metrics. Jackson's QBR was 62.7 and Nix's was 58.3, and both had an AV of 13. Jackson was also sacked at an unacceptable 10.65 percent rate, the worst of his career. Nix had seven game winning drives to Jackson's one, and he had a 1.8 percent INT rate to Jackson's 2.3. He was also more durable than Jackson. Again, I'm not saying he's a better player. I'm just saying that last season, they weren't far apart in terms of value and production. Quote
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