PoundingDog Posted June 13 Posted June 13 Yes I know, the Bills play-by-play caller talking to the Bills sideline reporter. What do you expect them to say, right? But I do find some interesting viewpoints. Brown mentioned CJGJ calling out people, which got him trouble in other places, causing locker room issue. But it might be something the Bills actually need and I don't mind overshooting a bit. The Bills are known as a big family, buddies hanging out outside of work. It might not be natural to calling out people in front of everyone, even you think the person deserved to be called out. CJGJ would probably do that without hesitation, getting into their faces, including coaches. It is certainly not something you want it all the time and the person can be more tactful. But the fact is we had no one in the past (i.e. the Cincy playoff game) willing to stand up. I know Diggs had a bit of that and got into trouble as well. We never had someone like that on defense, period. We need to inject some emotion at certain times. And ... CJGJ, like Brown said, has some silver ware to show his credibility. I also like Tasker's point of how to play the young guys as both of them admitted there will a lot of young guys playing on defence. Let them play free, make mistakes and learn from it. It is the fastest way to get used to NFL. They didn't mention the name but we know McDermott would hesitate to play rookies unless he's very sure they would not make mistakes, which means putting a lot of pressure on those rookies to play in hesitation to not make mistakes. That make a lot of sense. Play free, expect to make mistakes. Maximize your physical traits. By the time playoff comes around, maybe they get the system down by then. 1 2 Quote
DJB Posted June 13 Posted June 13 (edited) Mcdermotts defence was predicted on everyone doing their job and sticking to it and never deviating. Our new defense is predicted on chaos so the mistakes won’t be as noticeable . I think that will allow the rookies and 2nd year players a better opportunity to just go out and execute Edited June 13 by DJB 1 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 13 Posted June 13 I think it's completely possible to play new guys who make mistakes AND show improvement. Chaos will help stay a bit unpredictable. Especially on 3rd and long. 1 Quote
US Egg Posted June 13 Posted June 13 So the ideology would be there are acceptable mistakes in the learning curve. That’s a pretty fine line. How many mistakes can a coach be willing to risk in a 17 game season? Not too many. 3 1 Quote
Victory Formation Posted June 13 Posted June 13 As far as CJGJ goes, who cares if he gets a little mouthy??? Toughen up a bit, why don't ya?? 1 Quote
BillMafia716ix Posted June 13 Posted June 13 2 hours ago, US Egg said: So the ideology would be there are acceptable mistakes in the learning curve. That’s a pretty fine line. How many mistakes can a coach be willing to risk in a 17 game season? Not too many. Exactly. It’s all good til mistakes start costing you games. 2 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted June 13 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, BillMafia716ix said: Exactly. It’s all good til mistakes start costing you games. Yea it's the Cole Bishop two years ago thing. People were clamouring to get him on the field more but he literally cost them the Houston game. He made two major mistakes for two touchdowns. It'd easy for fans to sit there and say "let them take their lumps." Trust me when you are the coach ultimately responsible for results and there are mutliple livelihoods at stake.... you soon think differently. Every coach in the NFL except those overseeing a total rebuild would have benched him again after that game. 1 3 Quote
LittleSimonWithAGodComplex Posted June 13 Posted June 13 The biggest learning that I think needs to happen is with the DL and the linebackers stopping the running game, they really can’t get much worse at stopping the run as everyone we faced seemed to have a career day so I’m happy to let the younger guys take their licks there. Same for the pass rush, it can’t get much worse so let them reign chaos. The secondary is a bit different as it’s better and holds the defence together, we can’t afford big mistakes there every week 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted June 13 Posted June 13 5 hours ago, Victory Formation said: As far as CJGJ goes, who cares if he gets a little mouthy??? Toughen up a bit, why don't ya?? I agree. I was not usually a trash talker when young, but if someone was chatting me up, I made sure to hit the guy even harder on the field. When I wrestled, if the guy was cheap, I’d bite him on the back when the ref wasn't looking. It usually shuts them up. Besides, CJGJ is just trying to get under people’s skin. If he’s smart,he’ll keep that stuff for the opponent, not his own teammates. 1 Quote
Mike R Posted June 13 Posted June 13 The Bills did need a loud voice on defense, call people out and get fired up. I can see where it might get annoying over the course of a season but the defense needed some fire. I’m excited to see the younger players play and play fast and aggressive. The players seemed to be thinking too much under McD and afraid to make a mistake. They played back on their heels too much in more of a contain, keep everything in front of you style of play. It was death by a thousand cuts against good qb’s. I much prefer an aggressive, physical attack defense. I don’t care if they occasionally get caught out of position and give up the big play. McD seemed terrified of giving up the big play and it resulted in teams dunking and dunking down the field and the Bills relying on penalties or a dropped pass to get a stop while Allen sits on the bench waiting for a stop. I think they are going to produce more turnovers and big plays under Leonard. 2 Quote
Mike R Posted June 13 Posted June 13 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea it's the Cole Bishop two years ago thing. People were clamouring to get him on the field more but he literally cost them the Houston game. He made two major mistakes for two touchdowns. It'd easy for fans to sit there and say "let them take their lumps." Trust me when you are the coach ultimately responsible for results and there are mutliple livelihoods at stake.... you soon think differently. Every coach in the NFL except those overseeing a total rebuild would have benched him again after that game. True, Bishop was awful that game. But I think he was also battling some injuries and when healthy he came back stronger than ever. He took his lumps and learned from them. Quote
BeyondTheProcess Posted June 13 Posted June 13 4 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Exactly. It’s all good til mistakes start costing you games. and they will. just part of the transition period when your owner knee-jerk blows it all up. watching the defense the next couple years will certainly be more entertaining (positive and negative) than it's been in 10 years Quote
Don Otreply Posted June 13 Posted June 13 It wasn’t knee jerk, Sean had been on the off ramp since the beginning of his last season, it had become obvious to me that his time was coming to an end. Quote
PoundingDog Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 They are also preping Bills Mafia of the prospect of KEO starting in front of Dorian Williams. It would certainly be a surprise that out of all the draft picks last 2 years, a 4th rounder starts for you. The take on Landon Jackson is also a bit surprising. Is he really the ideal physical fit as 3-4 DE on this team? I'm sure Oliver and Walker would be ranked ahead of him, if Walker is not asked to play NT. Quote
GunnerBill Posted June 13 Posted June 13 3 hours ago, Mike R said: True, Bishop was awful that game. But I think he was also battling some injuries and when healthy he came back stronger than ever. He took his lumps and learned from them. He was not good his rookie year. There were signs of progress against the run later in the year but he sucked in coverage every time he was out there. In fairness he missed most of camp. His camp and pre-season last year was absolutely critical for his development and then Poyer getting into the lineup and giving him a proper vet to play off. Some rookies are not ready year 1. Bishop was one of those. Going into this year he is our top safety, it all worked out. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 13 Posted June 13 10 hours ago, US Egg said: So the ideology would be there are acceptable mistakes in the learning curve. That’s a pretty fine line. How many mistakes can a coach be willing to risk in a 17 game season? Not too many. Give Allen two short fields a game and the offense will light it up. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted June 13 Posted June 13 11 hours ago, US Egg said: So the ideology would be there are acceptable mistakes in the learning curve. That’s a pretty fine line. How many mistakes can a coach be willing to risk in a 17 game season? Not too many. 8 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Exactly. It’s all good til mistakes start costing you games. That's where the reliance on Josh should come in. Not limiting his possessions and shortening the game. Just give him more opportunities to be Josh. Quote
Buffalo ill Posted June 13 Posted June 13 I am not ashamed to admit I googled "CJGJ" after reading the OP. Quote
Victory Formation Posted June 13 Posted June 13 13 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: I agree. I was not usually a trash talker when young, but if someone was chatting me up, I made sure to hit the guy even harder on the field. When I wrestled, if the guy was cheap, I’d bite him on the back when the ref wasn't looking. It usually shuts them up. Besides, CJGJ is just trying to get under people’s skin. If he’s smart,he’ll keep that stuff for the opponent, not his own teammates. If somebody can't handle a little trash talk, I don't want them on the team.. Be men.. Act like it.. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted June 14 Posted June 14 What a foolish and petty way to describe Chris brown. the contempt for the media that covers the team here is so embarrassing. Grow up. Quote
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