Ray Davis sounds like he’s pushing his way out…

[Augie]

4 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I’d love to know these 12 teams.

 

They are mostly in the MAC, I think. 

[Kirby Jackson]

6 hours ago, Tim Tindale said:

Read the Sporting News article on the front page of the site this morning.  Davis sounds like he’s had enough ceding carries to Cook and Ty.  I thought he looked like he lost burst out of the backfield last year compared to year one, though he looked great as a kick returner.  
 

I thought it odd that he was bitter enough to insinuate he wants out.  Thoughts?

I thought the exact opposite. I thought he was slow and plodding as a rookie. He looked like Zack Moss. He needed volume to get anything going. Last year he was a way better player. He just had less opportunities.

 

I didn’t read his comments. I thought they should have traded him last offseason but now he’s a valuable piece. He’s a good number 2 and kick returner. Ray Davis, on a rookie deal, should be here a couple more years. 

[Pete]

1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Do you think he just makes stuff up? 

I think he’s a negative Nancy, trying to build a brand punching down.  I think he’s loves talking ***** on Bills, trying to rile up Bills Mafia for clicks, so someone reads his stuff.

[Alphadawg7]

6 hours ago, T.E. said:

Dude, the guy in front of you led the league in rushing last year. You're not getting a training camp competition with him for the starting job. Get real.

Too many of you are not reading this correctly and jumping to extreme conclusions.

 

He is not suggesting he’s expecting to compete to take Cooks job, he literally referenced how in year 2 he was on the outskirts of the offense and his role had been less than even his rookie year.

 

Davis is talented, and I think what he wants is to be more a 1-2 punch with Cook, than just a guy with an occasional carry.  
 

I kept telling people last year that nothing was wrong with Davis, he just wasn’t getting carries to get any kind of rhythm.  And that was proven right when he started popping again once he did get more snaps on series in bunches as the season went on.

 

He should be frustrated with what his role was last year, I’d be a lot more concerned if he wasn’t.  It’s in the teams best interest to get him involved more (assuming he continues to produce when he is) and less wear on Cook.  

And I 100% expect him to leave, and he should want too if he doesn’t get any relevant opportunities here.  But I actually expect we will see this be more of a 1-2 punch this year personally.  I think Cook is more that 1100 yard rushing season, and that would be a good thing if Davis can handle enough to make that a reality. 

Edited June 9 by Alphadawg7

[JMM]

Feature him in the preseason,  hope he knocks it out of the park. Then let's hope we can flip him for a nice mid rder or a defensive player that could provide good depth

[DrMaxPower]

I like Ray and he's got a great story but he needs to check himself.

 

Cook was 1 of the most dangerous/dynamic runners in the league. Led in rushing. On what planet does he deserve to pull volume from Cook?

 

I think the all-pro returner thing is going to his head. He needs to remember he's 1 year removed from looking like a bust who'd be out of the league shortly.

[HappyDays]

Davis showed good progress last year. His carries went from being a waste of a down to being a solid contribution. That being said there is still a very sizable gap between him and Cook. Cook does better at turning nothing into something, he maximizes every available gap, and he's a threat to take it to the house on any given carry. So it's hard to justify reducing his snaps. Davis should stay hungry but I wouldn't change anything about their snap share from last year.

[MikePJ76]

Sounds like he wants more carries not out.  
 

last year he was super positive and said I know it’s Cooks job and I am here to help.

 

he is not getting any younger so it makes sense. 

I don’t think it will amount to anything but a rookie head coach needs as little as this Type of thing as possible.

[The Frankish Reich]

Not Davis's fault that RBs are not highly valued in today's NFL, but it is his problem. That makes him hard to trade; you just won't get anything valuable for him.

[Kirby Jackson]

9 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Not Davis's fault that RBs are not highly valued in today's NFL, but it is his problem. That makes him hard to trade; you just won't get anything valuable for him.

I think it makes it more likely you’d get something (but I agree with the premise). He has 2 years left on his rookie deal. A team can get a quality RB and all-pro kick returner for basically no money. You may get a 4th for him or something like that. I wouldn’t do it but his value on that contract is there.

Edited June 9 by Kirby Jackson

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

I think it makes it more likely you’d get something (but I agree with the premise). He has 2 years left on his rookie deal.

So ... 5th rounder? 4th? I can't see it getting any higher. NFL is weird too since we don't see a whole lot of the "we need a RB and you need a LB" player-for-equal-value player trades.

[GoBills808]

20 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Sounds like he wants more carries not out.  
 

last year he was super positive and said I know it’s Cooks job and I am here to help.

 

he is not getting any younger so it makes sense. 

I don’t think it will amount to anything but a rookie head coach needs as little as this Type of thing as possible.

I'm good w him wanting the ball more but RB2s feeling aren't going to be an issue for this team

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I think the Bills will one day give Gore a chance to show what he can do and never look back. I like Davis and I hope it works out but I think we are ok if it doesn’t.

[Alphadawg7]

29 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Davis showed good progress last year. His carries went from being a waste of a down to being a solid contribution. That being said there is still a very sizable gap between him and Cook. Cook does better at turning nothing into something, he maximizes every available gap, and he's a threat to take it to the house on any given carry. So it's hard to justify reducing his snaps. Davis should stay hungry but I wouldn't change anything about their snap share from last year.

 

I would much rather see a 1-2 punch and keep Cook fresher and less wear.  Cook runs a lot harder than people realize and he still doesn't have a huge frame.  Its in the Bills best interest to reduce his carries if Davis is being productive as well in those snaps.  Think of what Saints had for a long time - and that is the kind of offense I am expecting to see more of this year with Carmichael here.  Its going to be Brady's offense still, but I expect some of those Saints influences that Payton ran so successfully for years coming from Carmichaels experience.  

 

Now if Davis doesn't live up to the task, I agree, dont take away Cook touches if Davis cant be effective.  But I am confident Davis can and will be in that role.  

[Victory Formation]

I think Ray Davis has starter level ability, I can't fault him one iota for wanting more snaps..

[Rocky Landing]

I feel like Beane is pretty straight up with players in these uncomfortable situations. I would guess that Beane will entertain trade offers, and if he gets a good, or adequate one, he'll trade him. If not, Davis will likely occupy the same role as last season. If that's the case, I'm sure Beane would be up front about his intentions, and Davis should be good with that.

[st pete gogolak]

I’d be surprised if Davis doesn’t get a decent workload in regard to carries this year.  I’m guessing that they don’t want to overwork Cook.

[Pete]

7 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

He writes articles making the Packers look bad too.

***** B word and whiners whine

[NoSaint]

6 hours ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

RB3 on team with Josh Allen and the NFL's leading rusher wants more carries..........

if not framing it snarky…

 

I hope he plays in a manner to justify taking some hits away from those two. Would be great if he could help ensure both make it to January in a healthier state 

 

I bet the lions hated having David Montgomery taking some of the harder earned mileage 

 

but hes got to earn those reps 

Edited June 9 by NoSaint

[SF Bills Fan]

I was in San Francisco 2 Saturdays ago and was watching Spurs-Thunder game out in the marina area and started chatting with other folks and one guy was Ray Davis's cousin. He said Ray loves Buffalo and playing for the Bills, but wants to play more and have a bigger role than mostly special teams. We discussed Cook, Johnson, the Cook playoff fumble against Denver (everyone agreed we should have won). I didn't think too much on it until I saw this thread and that article.