Drake London Gets PAID

[ganesh]

11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You just have to keep drafting WRs and pass rushers early. Trade up for them if you need to. The top guys never hit FA anymore. You can either draft a guy or trade insane draft capital AND give a big salary to them. If you’re fortunate to land a guy at those positions with 5 years of control it is a game changer. You really should only consider a few positions in round 1 (pass rush, WR, OT or QB). MAYBE every 5th year or so you can deviate on a special player elsewhere (like CB). 

and so on QB, CB.   Almost every position is a MUST hit....

[Kirby Jackson]

37 minutes ago, ganesh said:

and so on QB, CB.   Almost every position is a MUST hit....

QB above all else. I go back and forth if CB needs to go early. They can’t get a little expensive but not like WR or pass rush. They also can be available. You find them throughout the draft as well. OT, WR, and pass rush are the non-QB positions you take in round 1. @sven233 hit the nail on the head earlier. You almost just keep rotating them (obviously based on talent available at those spots and need). 
 

It really becomes 1st round positions okay to draft every year: OT, pass rush, WR

 

1st round position to prioritize as soon as you need one: QB

 

1st round position acceptable to draft if the right player & need are there: CB

 

1st round positions that you ONLY draft if a special player is there and they are tier(s) ahead of the priority positions: off the ball LB, run stuffing DT, interior OL, RB, S, TE

 

The irony of it is in this trash draft of 2026, I wanted Dillon Thieneman. I believe he would have been the pick if he fell one more spot. 

Edited June 3 by Kirby Jackson

[Pete]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Overpay for London. He isn't that good. 

Bills could not stop him.  It’s been a long time since a Bills WR dominated a game like Drake did 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Overpay for London. He isn't that good. 

He feels like a poor man’s Michael Thomas to me. 

[SoCal Deek]

He was darn good at USC and was a rarity playing on BOTH the football and basketball teams for a school of that athletic caliber. But…I cannot say I’ve heard all that much hype over him since turning pro. 

[JP51]

13 hours ago, sven233 said:

 

Someday, if he's still here, Beane will figure this out.  He has with pass rusher and CB, but for whatever reason, WR is just a blind spot for him.  These 3 positions should almost be your first 3 round picks in some order every year outside of years you need a QB.  You can always find adequate  replacements for the other positions each year for reasonable deals, but top pass rushers, WRs, and CBs are GETTING PAID and it's just not that easy to go out and get one of them in their prime due to positional value and contract.  Just have to keep bringing these guys in, try and keep the ones that turn out to be elite and either trade off or let the other ones go as you continue to replace them with high picks.

I struggle to understand why he doesnt get this, or doesnt get help because he isnt good at it... 

[GunnerBill]

42 minutes ago, Pete said:

Bills could not stop him.  It’s been a long time since a Bills WR dominated a game like Drake did 

 

The Bills D couldn't stop a cold that game. Was one of the worst coached Bills defensive games I can ever remember - especially first half. It was the game that convinced McDermott he needed to lean in more and couldn't leave Babich to it. London is fine. He can play. He isn't a guy who should be near a top 5 paid receiver. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

QB above all else. I go back and forth if CB needs to go early. They can’t get a little expensive but not like WR or pass rush. They also can be available. You find them throughout the draft as well. OT, WR, and pass rush are the non-QB positions you take in round 1. @sven233 hit the nail on the head earlier. You almost just keep rotating them (obviously based on talent available at those spots and need). 
 

It really becomes 1st round positions okay to draft every year: OT, pass rush, WR

 

1st round position to prioritize as soon as you need one: QB

 

1st round position acceptable to draft if the right player & need are there: CB

 

1st round positions that you ONLY draft if a special player is there and they are tier(s) ahead of the priority positions: off the ball LB, run stuffing DT, interior OL, RB, S, TE

 

The irony of it is in this trash draft of 2026, I wanted Dillon Thieneman. I believe he would have been the pick if he fell one more spot. 

Do you like the Bills draft this year, just based off of what you saw from these guys in college?

 

I have heard more good than bad about our draft.  Although I personally have not watched any of them play closely.  I have heard a lot of real good things about Skyler Bell.  People seem to think Parker will be a good player.  Same with the guys from Ohio State at CB and the LB from TCU.  And the safety from USC sounds athletic.  We are always drafting low.  So it seems like we never are getting some freaky stud type guys.  Beane and maybe it was a lot of McDermott's thinking as well seem to like guys with high floors, and not necessarily high ceilings.  I put guys like Rousseau and even Ed Oliver in that category.  (Oliver at times seems to have a higher ceiling, but seems to be nicked up a lot which lowers his production and availability.)

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

13 hours ago, Pete said:

Was Beane bullied by Wide Receivers in his childhood?

No.  Kids playing 'famous radio sports show' hosts.

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Do you like the Bills draft this year, just based off of what you saw from these guys in college?

 

I have heard more good than bad about our draft.  Although I personally have not watched any of them play closely.  I have heard a lot of real good things about Skyler Bell.  People seem to think Parker will be a good player.  Same with the guys from Ohio State at CB and the LB from TCU.  And the safety from USC sounds athletic.  We are always drafting low.  So it seems like we never are getting some freaky stud type guys.  Beane and maybe it was a lot of McDermott's thinking as well seem to like guys with high floors, and not necessarily high ceilings.  I put guys like Rousseau and even Ed Oliver in that category.  (Oliver at times seems to have a higher ceiling, but seems to be nicked up a lot which lowers his production and availability.)

I am by no means an expert but thought that the draft was okay. I’m fine with Parker and liked the Bell pick. I hated the Igbinosun pick. Elarms-Orr looks like a guy that may play. 

[BarleyNY]

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

This feels like a poll question. If we have answers of “absolutely” and “no chance” it feels like we hit the sweet spot on value. I would imagine that you’d be looking at 3 years of firsts to get into the top few picks to have a shot at him. 
 

Whether you’d do that move or not I do think the days of, “you only sell your soul for a QB” are over. Elite pass rushers and WRs cost so much and no longer hit FA. To obtain the best of the best you either have to hit in the draft or make a crazy trade package AND pay them. The Garrett trade, Crosby “trade,” Parsons trade, Tyreek trade & Devante Adams trade showed the value of the top of the pass rush market & WR markets. The Waddle trade, Brown trade, & the Jalen Phillips trade showed the value of top 15ish guys. The Bills and Eagles gave up 3rd round picks for a partial season from Amari Cooper and Jalen Phillips respectively. 
 

The point being, the market has moved. We are no longer in the world of “only pay a crazy price for a QB.” Teams that have QBs are now paying a crazy price for pass rushers and WRs. It used to be “you never select a RB in round 1 because they’re too cheap & easy to find.” Now that’s been extended to, “you only draft OT, WR, pass rush, CB & QB in the first because they don’t hit the market and are too expensive to trade for.” 

 

I agree. To be a real contender even teams with a top QB need other elite playmakers. The Bills have Allen. Cook may also be one and there’s hope for some youngsters, but Allen needs help - especially in the playoffs when elite players are usually the difference. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Keon Coleman licking his chops!...

 

 

 

 

 

 

(they just put out a fresh cookie tray)

[colin]

he's not consistent but when he's on he's a monster

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I am by no means an expert but thought that the draft was okay. I’m fine with Parker and liked the Bell pick. I hated the Igbinosun pick. Elarms-Orr looks like a guy that may play. 

 

Off topic but early OTA reports on Igbinosun have been good. I don't know how much I should read into that. I remember with Elam early on reports were that he was struggling and the team was putting oven mitts on his hands. Igbinosun seems off to a better start and might get a higher snap share than many of us expect.

[Rousseauisnoschmo]

That DJ Moore contract is looking like a bargain.

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Off topic but early OTA reports on Igbinosun have been good. I don't know how much I should read into that. I remember with Elam early on reports were that he was struggling and the team was putting oven mitts on his hands. Igbinosun seems off to a better start and might get a higher snap share than many of us expect.

Oh, he can look great. He has periods where he locks guys up. It isn’t that he gets beat. The problem is he grabs. I’m guessing that in big moments, teams will run double moves on him and wait for him to inevitably get handsy. That’s what happened at Ohio State. He had a target on his back on big downs. He made some plays and it was better this year. 
 

I guess that my fear is that he has the same problem the Bills have had. There are 1 or 2 plays that have determined the season. If it’s 3rd and 8 and the Bills are up 2 with a minute to go and the opposing team is at midfield, I’d bet anything that he’s the guy they throw at. He will be tested in the biggest moments to not grab. We will see but I have no confidence. 
 

ADDENDUM: I just thought of this and feel like it applies. There are times that Mitchell Robinson is on the floor for the Knicks and he’s dominating the offensive glass. He’s defending the paint at a high end level and is one of the best players out there. 

 

Then the opposition decides to just continue to foul him to put him on the line. The Knicks need to take him out of the game because his negative is so extreme that it outweighs all of the good. That’s kind of how I feel about Igbinosun. 

Edited June 3 by Kirby Jackson

[T master]

18 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Hypothetical: would you give up 2027, 2028 & 2029 1sts for the right to get Jeremiah Smith next year? I think that would roughly be the cost to go from the bottom of the 1st to the top couple of picks next year. 
 

FWIW, I think I would. IMO, he is a top 10 WR in the world today and you’d have 5 years on a rookie deal. It’s a giant price but scared money don’t make money. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Tru dat but what happens if say a you do swing for the fences on a great college player & wind up with a Jamarcus Russel, or put your self in a Cleveland situation & have a Deshaun Watson thing ? 

 

Drafting someone because they had a really good college career isn't proof that they will be a even better NFL player they all are a gamble !!

[Big Turk]

I think paying a WR who isn't a top 1 or 2 difference maker this type of money is insane

Edited Wednesday at 07:02 PM by Big Turk

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, T master said:

Tru dat but what happens if say a you do swing for the fences on a great college player & wind up with a Jamarcus Russel, or put your self in a Cleveland situation & have a Deshaun Watson thing ? 

 

Drafting someone because they had a really good college career isn't proof that they will be a even better NFL player they all are a gamble !!

I don’t think that’s possible with Jeremiah Smith. He’s not just some college kid. He might be the best WR prospect ever and at least since Calvin Johnson. He’s pretty much idiot proof. He’d have 1200 yards this year. I was very intentional using Jeremiah Smith as the example instead of “top college player.” He’s not Carnell Tate or Jordan Tyson. His floor is Tee Higgins and his ceiling is Randy Moss.

[The Jokeman]

On 6/2/2026 at 7:05 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

You just have to keep drafting WRs and pass rushers early. Trade up for them if you need to. The top guys never hit FA anymore. You can either draft a guy or trade insane draft capital AND give a big salary to them. If you’re fortunate to land a guy at those positions with 5 years of control it is a game changer. You really should only consider a few positions in round 1 (pass rush, WR, OT or QB). MAYBE every 5th year or so you can deviate on a special player elsewhere (like CB). 

I disagree WR is an early pick need. As you can find WRs anywhere in the draft as it's not a pure athletic position like pass rush or offensive line. To me WR is about reading defenders, being able to run routes, separation and of course catching. Also opportunity plays a big part too.