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You know George Pickens is sitting back rubbing his hands together. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/drake-london-falcons-agree-to-a-four-year-141-million-extension

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The Falcons have agreed to terms with wide receiver Drake London on a long-term deal.

 

According to multiple reports, London will sign a four-year, $141 million extension worth up to $150 million. It includes $100 million guaranteed.

 

 

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You just have to keep drafting WRs and pass rushers early. Trade up for them if you need to. The top guys never hit FA anymore. You can either draft a guy or trade insane draft capital AND give a big salary to them. If you’re fortunate to land a guy at those positions with 5 years of control it is a game changer. You really should only consider a few positions in round 1 (pass rush, WR, OT or QB). MAYBE every 5th year or so you can deviate on a special player elsewhere (like CB). 

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You just have to keep drafting WRs and pass rushers early. Trade up for them if you need to. The top guys never hit FA anymore. You can either draft a guy or trade insane draft capital AND give a big salary to them. If you’re fortunate to land a guy at those positions with 5 years of control it is a game changer. You really should only consider a few positions in round 1 (pass rush, WR, OT or QB). MAYBE every 5th year or so you can deviate on a special player elsewhere (like CB). 

 

Someday, if he's still here, Beane will figure this out.  He has with pass rusher and CB, but for whatever reason, WR is just a blind spot for him.  These 3 positions should almost be your first 3 round picks in some order every year outside of years you need a QB.  You can always find adequate  replacements for the other positions each year for reasonable deals, but top pass rushers, WRs, and CBs are GETTING PAID and it's just not that easy to go out and get one of them in their prime due to positional value and contract.  Just have to keep bringing these guys in, try and keep the ones that turn out to be elite and either trade off or let the other ones go as you continue to replace them with high picks.

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Was Beane bullied by Wide Receivers in his childhood? It seems he had a traumatic experience with Wide Receivers.  It’s illogical and he never learns(well maybe he’s starting to understand) DJ and Bell is the right direction 

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17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You just have to keep drafting WRs and pass rushers early. Trade up for them if you need to. The top guys never hit FA anymore. You can either draft a guy or trade insane draft capital AND give a big salary to them. If you’re fortunate to land a guy at those positions with 5 years of control it is a game changer. You really should only consider a few positions in round 1 (pass rush, WR, OT or QB). MAYBE every 5th year or so you can deviate on a special player elsewhere (like CB). 

We'll see what position they go with next year. Next year could have 7 first round guys, and there should be good players at the position all the way through the end of the 2nd. Unless Bell looks like a world beater, we should definitely go get 1 or 2. 

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15 minutes ago, sven233 said:

 

Someday, if he's still here, Beane will figure this out.  He has with pass rusher and CB, but for whatever reason, WR is just a blind spot for him.  These 3 positions should almost be your first 3 round picks in some order every year outside of years you need a QB.  You can always find adequate  replacements for the other positions each year for reasonable deals, but top pass rushers, WRs, and CBs are GETTING PAID and it's just not that easy to go out and get one of them in their prime due to positional value and contract.  Just have to keep bringing these guys in, try and keep the ones that turn out to be elite and either trade off or let the other ones go as you continue to replace them with high picks.

The Bills have been fortunate at OT as well. They had Dawkins since before Beane got here and they hit big on Spencer Brown. I suspect that in the next year or 2 they’ll be in the LT market. 
 

The world has just changed a lot over the last 5-10 years. You have no choice but to keep swinging early on those positions. You can’t get them otherwise.

2 minutes ago, H2o said:

We'll see what position they go with next year. Next year could have 7 first round guys, and there should be good players at the position all the way through the end of the 2nd. Unless Bell looks like a world beater, we should definitely go get 1 or 2. 

I think WR and OT should be the only positions on the list.

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Hypothetical: would you give up 2027, 2028 & 2029 1sts for the right to get Jeremiah Smith next year? I think that would roughly be the cost to go from the bottom of the 1st to the top couple of picks next year. 
 

FWIW, I think I would. IMO, he is a top 10 WR in the world today and you’d have 5 years on a rookie deal. It’s a giant price but scared money don’t make money. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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50 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You just have to keep drafting WRs and pass rushers early. Trade up for them if you need to. The top guys never hit FA anymore. You can either draft a guy or trade insane draft capital AND give a big salary to them. If you’re fortunate to land a guy at those positions with 5 years of control it is a game changer. You really should only consider a few positions in round 1 (pass rush, WR, OT or QB). MAYBE every 5th year or so you can deviate on a special player elsewhere (like CB). 


It’s almost good business to draft DE, CB and WR every year with your premium picks and then figure it out and rely on coaching/scheming everywhere else.  
 

Throw an OT in there when needed and then spend your FA money on RB, TE, LB, S, G, C, where you can get top tier guys more affordably. 

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23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Hypothetical: would you give up 2027, 2028 & 2029 1sts for the right to get Jeremiah Smith next year? I think that would roughly be the cost to go from the bottom of the 1st to the top couple of picks next year. 
 

FWIW, I think I would. IMO, he is a top 10 WR in the world today and you’d have 5 years on a rookie deal. It’s a giant price but scared money don’t make money. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Absolutely 

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:


It’s almost good business to draft DE, CB and WR every year with your premium picks and then figure it out and rely on coaching/scheming everywhere else.  
 

Throw an OT in there when needed and then spend your FA money on RB, TE, LB, S, G, C, where you can get top tier guys more affordably. 


No.  Has that kind of investment in a WR ever worked in the history of the world?

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You just have to keep drafting WRs and pass rushers early. Trade up for them if you need to. The top guys never hit FA anymore. You can either draft a guy or trade insane draft capital AND give a big salary to them. If you’re fortunate to land a guy at those positions with 5 years of control it is a game changer. You really should only consider a few positions in round 1 (pass rush, WR, OT or QB). MAYBE every 5th year or so you can deviate on a special player elsewhere (like CB). 

 

Imagine if the trades for the likes of DJ Moore or AJ Brown pan out...

 

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26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


No.  Has that kind of investment in a WR ever worked in the history of the world?

The majority of Top10 paid WRs are on teams that have had very little success. The obvious exception is JSN, but he wasn’t paid until after their SB.

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34 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


No.  Has that kind of investment in a WR ever worked in the history of the world?

Ya I agree I wouldn't. Too much.

 

To answer your question though , probably Julio Jones is the one exception I can think of 

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Hypothetical: would you give up 2027, 2028 & 2029 1sts for the right to get Jeremiah Smith next year? I think that would roughly be the cost to go from the bottom of the 1st to the top couple of picks next year. 
 

FWIW, I think I would. IMO, he is a top 10 WR in the world today and you’d have 5 years on a rookie deal. It’s a giant price but scared money don’t make money. 🤷🏻‍♂️

No, not a chance.  Only move up for a franchise quarterback.

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I always say, it’s not my money.. what do I care?? (in on paying Cook), but shelling out that kind of dough for that guy would be a tough pill to swallow if I were a Falcons fan right now, just because they are the definition of bad, in that division they can’t get anything going. If we had London, with Josh, it might be a no brainer, but wow. That is a lot of cash. 

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3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Crazy contract for a guy who only broke 1k (1,271) once in 4 years.

 

Let's hope Keon doesn't break the 1000 yard mark 🤣

Drake London was an absolute monster this past year and one of the 3 best receivers in the league playing with hot garbage at QB. He has developed into a true #1. It's not crazy at all

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9 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Absolutely 

 

7 hours ago, GroteStreet said:

No, not a chance.  Only move up for a franchise quarterback.

This feels like a poll question. If we have answers of “absolutely” and “no chance” it feels like we hit the sweet spot on value. I would imagine that you’d be looking at 3 years of firsts to get into the top few picks to have a shot at him. 
 

Whether you’d do that move or not I do think the days of, “you only sell your soul for a QB” are over. Elite pass rushers and WRs cost so much and no longer hit FA. To obtain the best of the best you either have to hit in the draft or make a crazy trade package AND pay them. The Garrett trade, Crosby “trade,” Parsons trade, Tyreek trade & Devante Adams trade showed the value of the top of the pass rush market & WR markets. The Waddle trade, Brown trade, & the Jalen Phillips trade showed the value of top 15ish guys. The Bills and Eagles gave up 3rd round picks for a partial season from Amari Cooper and Jalen Phillips respectively. 
 

The point being, the market has moved. We are no longer in the world of “only pay a crazy price for a QB.” Teams that have QBs are now paying a crazy price for pass rushers and WRs. It used to be “you never select a RB in round 1 because they’re too cheap & easy to find.” Now that’s been extended to, “you only draft OT, WR, pass rush, CB & QB in the first because they don’t hit the market and are too expensive to trade for.” 

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