Myles Garrett traded to Rams

[Royale with Cheese]

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Conesus is Rams #1.  Bills, Seahawks and Ravens tied for 2nd.

 

[Green Lightning]

Relax. We just signed another under-sized LB. 

[Krakensabres]

The hand wringing and hot takes on here. Continue to be hilarious… There are zero players on the bills defense that are at the level of Verse - zero.  so why exactly are the Browns making that trade with us? The answer is they weren’t so stop complaining about beane not doing it because he never had a chance.

[Big Blitz]

Sucks the Rams passed on an actual football player in round 1 this year to complement the roster.  

[Yobogoya!]

7 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

At least we avoided the Rams like tear down Beane mentioned

 

To be fair, not sure how many GM's have made high risk/ high reward work the way Snead has -- and it helps that he has McVay, as opposed to, say, Jeff Fisher like he had for the first five years he was GM of that franchise. 

 

The way they've made "f them picks" work sustainably with small down windows is almost unheard of. And it helps they're in a fair weather market like LA where nobody cares enough about football to call for their jobs in the down time, lol. 

[Einstein]

51 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Geez. Not a bad price either 

Yeah, I would have done that deal.

[BillsVet]

33 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

That's ok, Beane has a good fairway shot lined up for his 4-iron and he'll probably make par or a bogey at worst.  

 

He'll still slice it, but remind you he drafted Josh Allen after that errant shot. 

[thenorthremembers]

I bet we were in on it and made an offer.  But it takes two to tango and we dont have palm trees.

[Alphadawg7]

19 minutes ago, colin said:

 

i don't quite agree, but there is a fair amount of space, including with injury, where verse has a better season next year than garrett.  

 

it's very linear tho, they are paying a first, plus whatever else, and the cost difference (which is enormous) to upgrade from very good (verse) to the best (garrett).  that's exactly what they did with goff and stafford.

 

I am not saying that Verse is as good as Garett, it is pretty clear that Myles is the best in the league right now.  But this also was not at all a weak spot for the Rams, Verse is a baller and still getting better.  They gave up a first (and apparently additional draft comp) and a young rising star for a guy in the last couple years of elite play and at massive cost difference.  

For me, does the cost equal the improvement...I don't think it does.  I would have kept Verse and traded that first for another piece that makes a significant upgrade at a position of need.  

 

When they traded Goff for Stafford, I would argue at the time of the trade it felt like a more significant upgrade.  Goff wasn't playing for the Rams the way he has been playing for the Lions, he grew into a better QB after the trade.  Verse is a better edge than Goff was a QB at the time of the trade.  So I don't think the delta in the difference between Goff and Stafford is on par with Verse and Garrett.  

 

Don't get me wrong, Garrett is the best in the game...but I think the Rams are better keeping Verse and trading the 1st to upgrade a weaker position somewhere else.  Just my 2 cents as I am very high on Verse long term.

[Goin Breakdown]

Beane looked into it. He's pissed cuz he missed out. 

[LLCoolCy]

Detail are coming out.

 

Edited June 1 by LLCoolCy

[NewEra]

43 minutes ago, DJB said:

Man I would have done Groot + 1st + to get him . 
 

Rams are loaded 

And the Browns would’ve laughed.  Verses value >>> Rousseau’s value.   
 

The compensation that the Browns received is dam good imo.  Verse is more valuable that the 27 1st rd pick imo.  Rousseau is not.  The fact that the Browns received what they did gives Beane a pass imo.  While I never thought we would be in the running for him, the compensation explains why.  

5 minutes ago, Krakensabres said:

The hand wringing and hot takes on here. Continue to be hilarious… There are zero players on the bills defense that are at the level of Verse - zero.  so why exactly are the Browns making that trade with us? The answer is they weren’t so stop complaining about beane not doing it because he never had a chance.

💯 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, LLCoolCy said:

Detail are coming out.

 

 

Verse is a really good player, but even getting him, only walking away with one 1st and a couple days 2 picks (two and three years from now respectfully) is very light compensation IMO. Browns gonna Brown. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Verse is a really good player, but even getting him, only walking away with one 1st and a couple days 2 picks (two and three years from now respectfully) is very light compensation IMO. Browns gonna Brown. 

 

Garrett is worth 3-4 1st round picks.

 

Verse is worth 2 1sts easily given his age, contract, and skill, if they were trading him elsewhere for picks.

 

So Browns effectively got 3 1sts and a couple more picks in return for Garrett. It works out.

[Norcalbillsfan]

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Garrett had a final say.  Probably THE say.  
 

If you want to win a Super Bowl you don’t stay in the AFC.  

 

The Bills never had a chance getting him. 
 

 

When Beane has the NFC equivalent to this player available he should be swinging.  

Not to mention Jared verse, bills dont have a trade piece like verse right now. No way bills could have competed with that offer. 

[NewEra]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Verse is a really good player, but even getting him, only walking away with one 1st and a couple days 2 picks (two and three years from now respectfully) is very light compensation IMO. Browns gonna Brown. 

I think Verse is worth a 1st and a 3rd (maybe more) imo.  
 

1st, 2nd 3rd + verse is good imo.  Verse is a stud and will eventually be paid 40M+

[stlbills13]

10 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

 

To be fair, not sure how many GM's have made high risk/ high reward work the way Snead has -- and it helps that he has McVay, as opposed to, say, Jeff Fisher like he had for the first five years he was GM of that franchise. 

 

The way they've made "f them picks" work sustainably with small down windows is almost unheard of. And it helps they're in a fair weather market like LA where nobody cares enough about football to call for their jobs in the down time, lol. 

 

I don't actually mind not making this kind of move or a lot of the moves the Rams have made. It's more just that Beane continually seems to have to eat his words that I find funny. 

[BillyJoeBills]

Nearest comp was Maxx Crosby for Ravens pick 14 in 2016-1st rd and 2027 1st rd; that fell thru.  As it currently stands, Jared Verse and 2027 1st rounder, looks like Rams got a more favorable deal vs the Ravens offer.  2027 stats; Maxx-10 sacks; Garrett-23 sacks, plus Crosby coming off knee surgery.  Verse had 7.5 sacks; not in same league as Myles and 2027 Rams 1st rounder will probably be between 28-32.   This is definitely a move to put to rest the Sam Darnold hype train in Seattle; because we all know Sam folds under pressure, just like he did in NY, Carolina and Minnesota.

 

[TheBrownBear]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I am not saying that Verse is as good as Garett, it is pretty clear that Myles is the best in the league right now.  But this also was not at all a weak spot for the Rams, Verse is a baller and still getting better.  They gave up a first (and apparently additional draft comp) and a young rising star for a guy in the last couple years of elite play and at massive cost difference.  

For me, does the cost equal the improvement...I don't think it does.  I would have kept Verse and traded that first for another piece that makes a significant upgrade at a position of need.  

 

When they traded Goff for Stafford, I would argue at the time of the trade it felt like a more significant upgrade.  Goff wasn't playing for the Rams the way he has been playing for the Lions, he grew into a better QB after the trade.  Verse is a better edge than Goff was a QB at the time of the trade.  So I don't think the delta in the difference between Goff and Stafford is on par with Verse and Garrett.  

 

Don't get me wrong, Garrett is the best in the game...but I think the Rams are better keeping Verse and trading the 1st to upgrade a weaker position somewhere else.  Just my 2 cents as I am very high on Verse long term.

Maybe, but Garrett is still a monster at this point in time who is peaking and may have several elite seasons left in the tank. Consider that Bruce Smith was a 1st team AP all-pro 5 times after turning 30, including a DPOY at age 33; or Reggie White who had a similarly long run of elite play after turning 30.  Garrett is in that class of player.  But we'll have to see if he has that kind of longevity. 

[BillsPride12]