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11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Browns aren’t real

 

 

 

i wonder if there was a handshake deal when myles altered his contract in march, perhaps where he said only if i get to pick where i go or some such.  makes me wonder if there was some kind of rule violation in them doing so.

 

more likely i think they kinda wanted myles out of the conference, him to be happy (i think they still like him), and likely really value verse.  it makes sense if you read the "that wasn't the goal" bit as they didn't just want a bunch of picks, but wanted proven talent.

 

 

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The more I listen to people discuss this, the more sad I get. 

 

Rams were willing to trade away a 1st round picks + more for an All Pro CB in Trent McDuffie and trade away a 1st round pick + more for an All Pro DE in Myles Garrett.

 

Those 1st round picks MIGHT have been good players in the draft, but the likelihood they draft players who turn out better than Trent McDuffie & Myles Garrett is extremely unlikely.

 

Really hope we don't wait until Allen is old, banged up & can't run anymore until we decide to go all in.

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Posted
13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Browns aren’t real

 

 

 

I'll never shy away from an opportunity to bag on the Browns. But with his no-trade clause, Garrett really wasnt on the block and the Browns couldnt shop him around. I'd assume there was a very short list of teams Garrett was open to moving to. It may have been 1 or 2 teams long between Garrett and the Browns: "Winner, warm weather, NFC". 

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14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Browns aren’t real

 

 

 

Garrett had a no trade clause.  They can only get "maximum" value from teams he approved of.  They did shop him to Philly as well, but Philly wanted to include Nolan Smith, but Cleveland wanted Jalen Carter.  Philly wouldn't budge.

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15 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

Garrett had a no trade clause.  They can only get "maximum" value from teams he approved of.  They did shop him to Philly as well, but Philly wanted to include Nolan Smith, but Cleveland wanted Jalen Carter.  Philly wouldn't budge.

 

really?  where did you hear that philly stuff?

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I wouldn't have done this deal if I were the GM of the Rams.  I don't think MG gets the Rams to the SB last year.  Rams lost the NFC CG to the Seahawks because they couldn't convert a 3rd down.  

 

I don't trade the younger MG (that's Verse) for the 31-yo version. 

 

Yes MG is great, but it's a *long* season + playoffs, and I'd wonder how much greatness and football health is left in his body.  

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, colin said:

i wonder if there was a handshake deal when myles altered his contract in march, perhaps where he said only if i get to pick where i go or some such.  makes me wonder if there was some kind of rule violation in them doing so.

 

more likely i think they kinda wanted myles out of the conference, him to be happy (i think they still like him), and likely really value verse.  it makes sense if you read the "that wasn't the goal" bit as they didn't just want a bunch of picks, but wanted proven talent.

 

According to the Rams, they reached out immediately after Garrett and the Browns modified his contract.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/les-snead-spent-months-of-the-offseason-trying-to-get-the-browns-to-trade-myles-garrett

 

Also, this leads credence to conspiracy theories that this was the planned end game:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/browns-and-rams-push-for-five-year-window-to-trade-draft-picks-now-makes-more-sense

 

13 hours ago, colin said:

really?  where did you hear that philly stuff?

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/eagles-made-play-for-myles-garrett-but-browns-wanted-jalen-carter

 

You'll notice all three links in my post are from Pro Football Talk.

 

It's free and the best one-stop shopping for NFL news.

 

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6 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

According to the Rams, they reached out immediately after Garrett and the Browns modified his contract.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/les-snead-spent-months-of-the-offseason-trying-to-get-the-browns-to-trade-myles-garrett

 

Also, this leads credence to conspiracy theories that this was the planned end game:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/browns-and-rams-push-for-five-year-window-to-trade-draft-picks-now-makes-more-sense

 

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/eagles-made-play-for-myles-garrett-but-browns-wanted-jalen-carter

 

You'll notice all three links in my post are from Pro Football Talk.

 

It's free and the best one-stop shopping for NFL news.

 

 

my deep football instincts led me to the correct path, or was it because this is the simplest most predictable thing?

 

im sure beane gives us some bs about how close he was or how he was working for stuff, but DT from giants, maxx, garrett and waddle i think were never going to us, either because the pick/player/traded player's demands meant it wouldn't happen, or in the waddle case because miami wasn't going to give waddle to their rival.

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21 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

Garrett had a no trade clause.  They can only get "maximum" value from teams he approved of.  They did shop him to Philly as well, but Philly wanted to include Nolan Smith, but Cleveland wanted Jalen Carter.  Philly wouldn't budge.


yea, and if verse was a player they specifically wanted -there’s only so much shopping. 
 

I assume in navigating the no trade that it was a list or about 6-8 teams with Super Bowl aspirations 

 

by the time you cut back to who has both the interest and the assets - there’s only so much of an auction and simply who will do the buy it now price first 

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14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

😭

 

 

It seems like numbers aren't hard to come by now. Seemingly both Gabriel and Poona Ford had no say when a new number 8 or number 95 arrived. 

 

It does not seem right to me but I guess the stars always call the shots. Unfortunately or fortunately for Gabriel he is about to be cut or traded before September. 

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On 6/3/2026 at 9:10 AM, colin said:

 

i wonder if there was a handshake deal when myles altered his contract in march, perhaps where he said only if i get to pick where i go or some such.  makes me wonder if there was some kind of rule violation in them doing so.

 

more likely i think they kinda wanted myles out of the conference, him to be happy (i think they still like him), and likely really value verse.  it makes sense if you read the "that wasn't the goal" bit as they didn't just want a bunch of picks, but wanted proven talent.

 

 

 

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On 6/3/2026 at 9:13 AM, BigDingus said:

The more I listen to people discuss this, the more sad I get. 

 

Rams were willing to trade away a 1st round picks + more for an All Pro CB in Trent McDuffie and trade away a 1st round pick + more for an All Pro DE in Myles Garrett.

 

Those 1st round picks MIGHT have been good players in the draft, but the likelihood they draft players who turn out better than Trent McDuffie & Myles Garrett is extremely unlikely.

 

Really hope we don't wait until Allen is old, banged up & can't run anymore until we decide to go all in.


They can trade away 1st Round Picks for big contracts in McDuffie and Garrett because they don’t sign a billion good, not great, players to mid-tier contracts. 
 

We were able to make Moore work, but had to pull levers to do so.. have some money to sign a good player or two decent vet types before the season but any big move requires pulling the Dawkins lever.  
 

And I’m fine with that.. we have a lot of young guys who could be good and provide us with years of cost controlled talent, but it’s more cap related than it is willingness to trade away 1’s (imo) as to why we keep taking half measures. 
 

Maybe Myles Garrett was always wink wink headed to LA.. but AJ Brown had us on his list.  We could’ve done the Pats trade and paired Brown with Moore, but we instead have Josh Palmer who maybe can play, maybe not, who knows.  
 

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On 6/3/2026 at 6:15 PM, YoloinOhio said:

😭

 

22 hours ago, quincy said:

Unfortunately or fortunately for Gabriel he is about to be cut or traded before September. 

 

That would be something.

 

Gabriel was last year's 3rd round pick for the Browns... a 5'11" QB who played at 3 different schools and now isn't even competing for the starting job.

 

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