PoundingDog Posted May 21 Posted May 21 After 2023 season, Josh's goal was to reduce turnovers. After 2024, he said he wanted to improve pre-snap reading. After 2025, he said he wants to improve his deep ball accuracy, specifically mechinical issues. I thought Eric's point of having to have the real guys to practice may not be valid. To me, it's all about projecting where the ball needs to be at what time, and you can practice it without anybody running the route, with different arcs of the ball (Tua came to mind). Maybe the issue is Josh not able to project the location the ball needs to land with different guys running the deep route? A couple of other notes. You can really feel for him when he said he "hated" not being able to celebrate the 1st Xmas with his daughter. I noticed when Eric asked Josh about what kind of liquor he's drinking. For the first time I'm hearing the answer that I want to hear: a lot of water. For him to have that longitivity I'm hoping for, look no further than Tom Brady, and keep alcohol to a minimum. Allen is well tapped to the wind considtions in the new stadium. Unfortunately it probably helps opponents more than the Bills in that regard. Allen is fully aware he hasn't played well in Houston. You can bet he may start watching some Texans films well before the season openner. 5 3 4 Quote
ganesh Posted May 21 Posted May 21 If we saw anything in Denver, it still remain on how to reduce turnover. 4 turnovers in divisional playoff game is not going to get you to the big dance. 4 1 1 1 Quote
NewEra Posted May 21 Posted May 21 26 minutes ago, ganesh said: If we saw anything in Denver, it still remain on how to reduce turnover. 4 turnovers in divisional playoff game is not going to get you to the big dance. It definitely would have if he had better deep ball accuracy 3 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted May 21 Posted May 21 4 minutes ago, Dan said: And WRs that could make contested catches. And WRs who would actually get deep and be open 7 1 1 1 Quote
Special K Posted May 21 Posted May 21 13 minutes ago, Dan said: And WRs that could make contested catches. Cooks made a contested catch.....the Officials blew the call. 7 1 14 2 5 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 21 Posted May 21 I've always thought Josh's deep ball placement was bad. He had one season early in his car where he would have success with John Brown. A few nice ones to Robert Foster. My dream WR for Josh, like many, has been one of those 4.2 40 type guys. Just let him fling it as far as possible and let a speedy WR run under it. I know, sounds way less complicated than it is. 1 8 Quote
nedboy7 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 McD kept putting his arm in a bad position for accuracy. 1 1 5 1 Quote
SunDSolar Posted May 21 Posted May 21 6 hours ago, nedboy7 said: McD kept putting his arm in a bad position for accuracy. Nah McD just kept spotting the other team 32+ points 4 2 1 1 Quote
BillMafia716ix Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Josh sucks throwing the deep ball which is surprising given his arm strength. Josh under threw that deep ball to Cooks vs. Denver. A better ball, Cooks catches it in stride and we’re playing for chance to get to the Super Bowl. 4 1 Quote
H2o Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Josh is going to be Josh. Big combined numbers and in the MVP conversation. Moore and Bell upgrade the WR room. If we can get an improvement on defense with Leonhard at the helm, then we are as dangerous as any team in the NFL. We just need a year where the injury bug does not plague our starters, especially key guys on defense. 5 4 1 Quote
UConn James Posted May 21 Posted May 21 (edited) 8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I've always thought Josh's deep ball placement was bad. He had one season early in his car where he would have success with John Brown. A few nice ones to Robert Foster. My dream WR for Josh, like many, has been one of those 4.2 40 type guys. Just let him fling it as far as possible and let a speedy WR run under it. I know, sounds way less complicated than it is. Bingo. Outside of a few to Foster, I can't remember many that connected. Some more recently (Ray Davis vs the Jets... 2 years ago now?) were more akin to throwing it downfield and praying. Kinda aggravating to have the guy who can throw it a mile but not have it be in the right spot / radius for the receiver. Josh has never really been able to throw guys open or lead them by throwing where a guy is going to be -- in his stride -- and not having to slow up. At least not akin to how Brady would to Moss / Welker / Edelman. Not that we have exactly had WRs of that class. After the MVP, McBeane the last two years at WR was kinda hoping Josh could make chicken 💩 into chicken salad like Brady could with nobody WRs while they spent most resources on D. But no, Josh is not that kind of QB. He cannot elevate other guys' play like some kind of magician. He needs WRs with skill, and they had not provided that. We'll see what Moore and Bell can bring. The last regulation time pass to Knox in the Denver playoff wasn't quuuuite a "deep" ball but it absolutely sailed and was rooted in the same issue. Spatial awareness issue, a 'touch' thing, ?? He's gotta figure this out. Edited May 21 by UConn James 2 Quote
Low Positive Posted May 21 Posted May 21 9 hours ago, Special K said: Cooks made a contested catch.....the Officials blew the call. The Broncos were ripping the ball out after the play was over all game, and celebrating like they got a turnover. They finally got the refs to bite. Cooks needed to stand up either mad or celebrating. Instead, he stood up hanging his head. He made it easy for them to make that call. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Josh's off-season improvement goal: deep ball accuracy I suggest he gets his clubs regripped, and he goes up one club. And backspin. Lots of backspin. 1 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted May 21 Posted May 21 11 hours ago, ganesh said: If we saw anything in Denver, it still remain on how to reduce turnover. 4 turnovers in divisional playoff game is not going to get you to the big dance. Amazing how people just cling onto one game. 1 Quote
corta765 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 11 hours ago, ganesh said: If we saw anything in Denver, it still remain on how to reduce turnover. 4 turnovers in divisional playoff game is not going to get you to the big dance. Respectfully that is more of an outlier in his post season performance which otherwise is sparkling. BUT I would say 2025 brought back some shotty decision making that hurt them. He certainly is better then when he was younger and 2024's MVP showed that. Hopefully with additional WR talent he can go back to trusting his guys then doing superman which was a bit too much in 25'. 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 This was the word on Josh coming into his draft year. I remember one expert saying: "He can't hit the side of a barn - but if he does, it will go through the wall" regarding his accuracy. Josh is great, one of the best in the league right now. But his deep ball sucks. 1 Quote
Brand J Posted May 21 Posted May 21 That deep ball to Gabe Davis in the playoffs against the Chiefs, the 74 yard pass or whatever it was, was the prettiest deep ball I’ve ever seen him throw. I liked it more than the one to Foster. Just perfect touch and placement, I was wondering why it couldn’t be like that at least half the time. Quote
SoMAn Posted May 21 Posted May 21 10 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I've always thought Josh's deep ball placement was bad. He had one season early in his car where he would have success with John Brown. A few nice ones to Robert Foster. My dream WR for Josh, like many, has been one of those 4.2 40 type guys. Just let him fling it as far as possible and let a speedy WR run under it. I know, sounds way less complicated than it is. Perhaps he needs a caddy to help him judge distance. A QB caddy. Could be a new trend in the NFL. 🙃 1 Quote
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