QB School breakdown of Allen in the Denver game.

[Maine-iac]

Not sure why it took so long.  Love it or hate it, a good watch either way.

 

Edited May 6 by Maine-iac

[BuffaloBillyG]

44 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Not sure why it took so long.  Love it or hate it, a good watch either way.

 

My takeaway from that game has been Allen made enough plays to win, but he couldn't overcome the plays he made to lose. We should have won that game by 20.

[Dillenger4]

24 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

My takeaway from that game has been Allen made enough plays to win, but he couldn't overcome the plays he made to lose. We should have won that game by 20.

I agree - we should have won that game easy. It never should have been so close. Our D looked horrible at times and our O looked great at times but also bad at times. Just a bad day.

[DrDawkinstein]

[2003Contenders]

I love Josh -- and never want that dog in him to go away. It's OK to be a gunslinger and occasionally take risks because more often than not, the reward (in his case) outweighs the risk. But there is a difference between taking a calculated risk -- and being downright reckless. The fumble at the end of the first half, for example, was inexcusable and wound up being very costly. (I still don't know how Anderson failed to recover it!)

[SF Bills Fan]

We had full control and they were reeling until the Cook fumble. A score there changes the entire game. Instead, it flipped the momentum and suddenly Denver was back in it and energized.

[PoundingDog]

22 minutes ago, SF Bills Fan said:

We had full control and they were reeling until the Cook fumble. A score there changes the entire game. Instead, it flipped the momentum and suddenly Denver was back in it and energized.

Which can be negated by a Chubb sack fumble if he were on Bills side rushing Bo Nix - that's what Beane and Brady are hoping for.

[Alphadawg7]

58 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

My takeaway from that game has been Allen made enough plays to win, but he couldn't overcome the plays he made to lose. We should have won that game by 20.

 

Agreed.  As much as I love Allen, the fumble at end of the half ended up being the difference in the game and was one of the worst fumbles in NFL history...maybe the worst.  Our FG to go to OT would have been to win the game if not for this stupid fumble at end of half.

 

Add in the Cook fumble and Allens other bad INT throw, and we put ourselves in too big of a hole.  

 

Sad thing is, we still had the lead with 4 min to go and our defense let a mediocre Denver Offense drive the length for a TD.  

[Maine-iac]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Agreed.  As much as I love Allen, the fumble at end of the half ended up being the difference in the game and was one of the worst fumbles in NFL history...maybe the worst.  Our FG to go to OT would have been to win the game if not for this stupid fumble at end of half.

 

Add in the Cook fumble and Allens other bad INT throw, and we put ourselves in too big of a hole.  

 

Sad thing is, we still had the lead with 4 min to go and our defense let a mediocre Denver Offense drive the length for a TD.  

...... and we kicked a FG before they scored that TD (when White went out injured) and again we kicked a FG after they scored that TD.  In both cases we should have had TD's and won the game.  Didn't get it done in OT either.  A lot of blame being laid at the feet of the defense.  

[blacklabel]

3 hours ago, SF Bills Fan said:

We had full control and they were reeling until the Cook fumble. A score there changes the entire game. Instead, it flipped the momentum and suddenly Denver was back in it and energized.

 

That was the turning point for me too. They were rolling at that point then Jimmy gets frickin' powerbombed and coughs it up. Bleh. 

[NoSaint]

3 hours ago, 2003Contenders said:

I love Josh -- and never want that dog in him to go away. It's OK to be a gunslinger and occasionally take risks because more often than not, the reward (in his case) outweighs the risk. But there is a difference between taking a calculated risk -- and being downright reckless. The fumble at the end of the first half, for example, was inexcusable and wound up being very costly. (I still don't know how Anderson failed to recover it!)

if for every one of those we get twelve plays we never imagined on the other side of the spectrum - it almost becomes not worth mentioning. 
 

I get acknowledgment in the context of that game but in a broader sense it’s just so insignificant in the trade off 

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Agreed.  As much as I love Allen, the fumble at end of the half ended up being the difference in the game and was one of the worst fumbles in NFL history...maybe the worst.  Our FG to go to OT would have been to win the game if not for this stupid fumble at end of half.

 

Add in the Cook fumble and Allens other bad INT throw, and we put ourselves in too big of a hole.  

 

Sad thing is, we still had the lead with 4 min to go and our defense let a mediocre Denver Offense drive the length for a TD.  

Allen overshooting Cooks by about 7 yards in the end zone in regulation was the worst of them all imo.  Cooks had Moss beat it forced him to grab his arm. All he had to do was get it close enough not to be uncatchable and we win the game.  It was a super clutch moment and it wasn’t a clutch throw

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Agreed.  As much as I love Allen, the fumble at end of the half ended up being the difference in the game and was one of the worst fumbles in NFL history...maybe the worst.  Our FG to go to OT would have been to win the game if not for this stupid fumble at end of half.

 

Add in the Cook fumble and Allens other bad INT throw, and we put ourselves in too big of a hole.  

 

Sad thing is, we still had the lead with 4 min to go and our defense let a mediocre Denver Offense drive the length for a TD.  

He should have never been put in the position to even try to make a play before the half. Another dumb game losing decision by McDermott.  Allen has to be better but his coach let him down, again!

[julian]

Nobody escapes blame in that result, it was just a bad time to have all the turnovers, the D did what it’s always done in January.

[MikePJ76]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Agreed.  As much as I love Allen, the fumble at end of the half ended up being the difference in the game and was one of the worst fumbles in NFL history...maybe the worst.  Our FG to go to OT would have been to win the game if not for this stupid fumble at end of half.

 

Add in the Cook fumble and Allens other bad INT throw, and we put ourselves in too big of a hole.  

 

Sad thing is, we still had the lead with 4 min to go and our defense let a mediocre Denver Offense drive the length for a TD.  

“Worst fumble in nfl history”

 

good grief.  One of the most ridiculous things I have read here.  
 

unless last year was your first year watching football or something.  

[90sBills]

3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

He should have never been put in the position to even try to make a play before the half. Another dumb game losing decision by McDermott.  Allen has to be better but his coach let him down, again!

It’s the coach’s fault for trusting his future hof qb to not make boneheaded mistakes?

[Old Coot]

We lost the turnover battle 5-1 and yet we took Denver to overtime.

 

We were the better team but not that day.

 

Josh had 3 fumbles (lost 2).

 

He needs to stop eating wings on the sideline while our D is on the field.

[QB Bills]

Not Josh's best day, but it solidifies the point of him having less margin for error than any other star QB in the game. 

 

The offense still put up what should be enough points to win against a great defense on the road. The defense on the other hand gave up 27 (two FGs were freebies courtesy of the two Allen fumbles) to an offense that had only scored that many twice in the previous nine games.

[Buffalo ill]

This is such a weird thread to read.  

[Alphadawg7]

5 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

“Worst fumble in nfl history”

 

good grief.  One of the most ridiculous things I have read here.  
 

unless last year was your first year watching football or something.  

 

No disrespect, but how can you be serious?  I love Allen as much or more than anyone.  That was the single most unneccessary and dumbest fumble in the history of the game.  Find me a worse or dumber one, I literaly challenge you to find one that was more unneccesary but more damaging than this one.  

 

Not a fumble where someone took a big hit trying to make a MEANINGFUL PLAY.  But a fumble with LITERALLY NOTHING to gain, and ONLY something to lose, that costs his team maybe the BEST chance its ever had to win a Super Bowl - ever in his era. A QB taking a hit he has no business taking while NOT even protecting the ball.

 

With no chance to score and half literally over if he just slides...and Allen still more than half a football field away from anything - he decides to NOT protect the football, NOT get down, and instead hang the ball out there palming it where a 5th grader playing flag football could have stipped the ball from him.

 

And it was literally the difference in the game from winning and losing.  In a season that was arguably his best shot of his career to not only reach a SB, but win one.  

 

So please, find me a worse fumble, I legitiamtely want to see you try and find one.

 

 

Edited May 7 by Alphadawg7