McDermott Prediction Poll

[Kirby Jackson]

There is a lot of reflective McDermott evaluation going on still. While I vowed that I didn’t want to relitigate his tenure, this felt interesting. While it is time for us to all move on, I’m curious to see what the board thinks his future will look like. 
 

We are all aware that the correct answer “depends on where he ends up.” We also know that somewhere in between these 2 ends of the spectrum is most likely. That’s why those aren’t options. No one is asking if he will be okay. This poll is designed to ask, “is he more likely to take the next team to the Super Bowl” or “to flame out?”  

[GunnerBill]

I think he is incredibly unlikely to flame out. So by that sense I go the latter. 

 

I would go the former if it was 5 years or less and doesn't win a playoff game (coe playoff wins require a QB above all else) But I think there is almost no chance he is fired within 3 years. He is too good of a floor raiser. 

 

Whereas if he got a QB could he find his way to a Superbowl? Yea I think he could. He'd need some bounces he never got here but yea.

Edited April 30 by GunnerBill

[Lost]

He'll win a Super Bowl with another team just because that's the most Billsy outcome.

[DrDawkinstein]

Those are two EXTREME choices. He's obviously capable of winning at least one playoff game. But unlikely to ever get to a SB, imo.

 

I think he has another 5 year stint, wins a couple of playoff games, but never gets over the hump.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I think he has another 5 year stint, wins a couple of playoff games, but never gets over the hump.

 

I agree that is much more likely.

[BillsVet]

McD's approach to the game I'm not convinced changed all that much from pre-Josh to prime Josh. And I think in his next job it would somewhat mirror 2017-18 and perhaps into 2019: some early returns provided he has a decent QB and then plateauing.   

 

 

[Gregg]

He couldn't win with 17 who is one of the best if not the best QB in the game. He might last more than 3 years with his new team, but he won't win a Super Bowl. 

[Kirby Jackson]

10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Those are two EXTREME choices. He's obviously capable of winning at least one playoff game. But unlikely to ever get to a SB, imo.

 

I think he has another 5 year stint, wins a couple of playoff games, but never gets over the hump.

 

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I agree that is much more likely.

That’s exactly why it wasn’t a choice. We all would have defaulted to the easy answer.
 

I went back and forth. I went with flame out as more likely. If he didn’t get there with prime Josh Allen, it’ll be tough to get there without him. 
 

Honestly, we could do the exact same poll for Joe Brady. Does he take this team where McDermott couldn’t or is he gone in a couple years? I suspect the fans would be overwhelmingly positive in that though because we are all hoping it.

Edited April 30 by Kirby Jackson

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

That’s exactly why it wasn’t a choice. We all would have defaulted to the easy answer.
 

I went back and forth. I went with flame out as more likely. If he didn’t get there with prime Josh Allen, it’ll be tough to get there without him. 

 

Yeah, the chances of landing another Josh are slim to none. Put him in Carolina with a rookie Bryce Young and I dont think it turns out like Buffalo.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

 

I went back and forth. I went with flame out as more likely. If he didn’t get there with prime Josh Allen, it’ll be tough to get there without him. 

 

What if he gets a year where his playoff run is the hapless Chargers, and a team whose starting QB broke his foot at the end of the divisional round? Every 5 or 6 years there is a team that makes the Superbowl that is by no stretch a top 2 team. 

[frostbitmic]

I voted the first choice though I didn't like either. I think he'll go to a lousy team that wants to rebuild its culture like he did here, I just don't see his Defense, in particular his playoff Defense will ever get him to the big game.

 

He had Josh Allen and couldn't get there with him. It's unlikely he'll ever have a QB that good again.

 

I'll guess his next HC gig will be 5+ years without making a Super Bowl.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yeah, the chances of landing another Josh are slim to none. Put him in Carolina with a rookie Bryce Young and I dont think it turns out like Buffalo.

 

Agree, but do think he'd raise the bar for that team by a win or two. 8-9 division winners becoming a 10-7 type team. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

I think wherever he lands next he will be there 4-5 years because the understanding will likely be he's in a rebuild situation. This year was odd in that multiple positions opened on playoff ready teams (here, Baltimore, Pittsburgh). You don't see that every year.  Maybe he gets the Cincinnati or Tampa job next year when they finally move on from those coaches. But I find it more likely he's in for a job like the Jets. 

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

What if he gets a year where his playoff run is the hapless Chargers, and a team whose starting QB broke his foot at the end of the divisional round? Every 5 or 6 years there is a team that makes the Superbowl that is by no stretch a top 2 team. 

The Pats 2025 “run” will be studied for generations. 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think wherever he lands next he will be there 4-5 years because the understanding will likely be he's in a rebuild situation. This year was odd in that multiple positions opened on playoff ready teams (here, Baltimore, Pittsburgh). You don't see that every year.  Maybe he gets the Cincinnati or Tampa job next year when they finally move on from those coaches. But I find it more likely he's in for a job like the Jets. 

 

I don't think he would take the Jets job. Johnson is one of the worst owners in sports who likes to get involved in football related decisions. The Rodgers fiasco was all him not JD and Saleh who wanted to sign Derek Carr at the time to replace Zach Wilson as QB. I don't see McDermott putting up with Johnson's BS.

[JP51]

I like the fact he is taking the year off to study leadership and going in to business to examine how they lead to try and adapt his style...  I guess I would have been looking for that self reflection when he was here that changed the type of schemes and some personnel types etc...  but maybe he has realized that no one ever arrives... if you believe you have "arrived" you have likely hit your peak and will begin regression as long as you believe that....   McD seems to have taken this one to heart, good on him... I think if he comes back, he comes back a different type of coach... and that may propel him... who knows, it may even be with us... not likely, but its happened before... 

[Canadian Bills Fan]

26 minutes ago, Lost said:

He'll win a Super Bowl with another team just because that's the most Billsy outcome.

 

 

[JP51]

8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think wherever he lands next he will be there 4-5 years because the understanding will likely be he's in a rebuild situation. This year was odd in that multiple positions opened on playoff ready teams (here, Baltimore, Pittsburgh). You don't see that every year.  Maybe he gets the Cincinnati or Tampa job next year when they finally move on from those coaches. But I find it more likely he's in for a job like the Jets. 

I agree on the 4-5 years, I also think Tampa could be a place he lands... maybe Cinci, the Jets would need to be in a position to at least pick a QB or have one already...  the Gino Smith thing cannot be long term and has it limits...  The Jets with this draft may improve their record making it more difficult to get their QB time will tell... but at the end of the day I do not see McD going into a situation where its a QB wasteland...  He doesnt need a team with an elite QB like Joe Burrow etc... maybe he will , but at minimum like a Baker situation in Tampa makes sense to me... 

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I don't think he would take the Jets job. Johnson is one of the worst owners in sports who likes to get involved in football related decisions. The Rodgers fiasco was all him not JD and Saleh who wanted to sign Derek Carr at the time to replace Zach Wilson as QB. I don't see McDermott putting up with Johnson's BS.

The problem is, for the most part, the perennial bottom feeders all have bad/meddlesome ownership/upper management. Jets, Cleveland, Arizona...these are the type of teams I see wanting to bring him in. 

 

Let's say some actual good jobs open. For the sake of argument, let's say the Kansas City job opens. Why would a team like that be motivated to bring him in when he's shown he can't get a team over the hump even with elite QB play? He's gonna have to take a job with warts at the ownership/GM position if he wants back in IMO. 

[Cash]

29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

What if he gets a year where his playoff run is the hapless Chargers, and a team whose starting QB broke his foot at the end of the divisional round? Every 5 or 6 years there is a team that makes the Superbowl that is by no stretch a top 2 team. 

Exactly! Sometimes teams get lucky. We tend to discount that around here, because it’s never happened to the Bills. But it happens to someone every few years.