Einstein Posted April 29 Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: We all saw Sean’s work, I’ll leave it at that, Sure did. 7 straight playoffs. A playoff win in all 7 of those years. Multiple AFC Championship game appearances. And the best win % in Bills history. 2 1 1 Quote
Gregg Posted April 29 Posted April 29 McDermott is/was a good coach. His record for how he turned the Bills around speaks for itself. But it was time to move on. Terry obviously thought a new voice was needed in the locker-room and I agree with him. He had 9 years and too many disappointments in the playoffs showed that a change was needed. I wish Sean well in the future except when he faces the Bills. 1 1 Quote
zevo Posted April 29 Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Sure did. 7 straight playoffs. A playoff win in all 7 of those years. Multiple AFC Championship game appearances. And the best win % in Bills history. Yeah…screw that guy for turning the culture of losing into winning and creating an environment that allowed one of the most polarizing qb prospects in history to develop into one of the greatest the NFL has seen. Screw him and his high horse. Thanks for nothing Sean. 1 Quote
ddaryl Posted April 29 Posted April 29 (edited) We are about find out 1st hand. As always at this time optimism reigns, also at this time of year, get back to me late October. Got to see them play some games. Edited April 29 by ddaryl 1 2 Quote
JP51 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 8 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Well said my friend.... I will tell you this though, its easier to fool someone then to convince someone that they've been fooled.. Let the homers think as they will, the truth isn't always appreciated.. I love this quote... I feel like I am going to use it at some point today LOL... 1 1 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted April 29 Posted April 29 5 minutes ago, zevo said: Yeah…screw that guy for turning the culture of losing into winning and creating an environment that allowed one of the most polarizing qb prospects in history to develop into one of the greatest the NFL has seen. Screw him and his high horse. Thanks for nothing Sean. Josh Allen was ‘polarizing’? I understand that we all have to choose our adjectives but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard him described that way. Quote
BarleyNY Posted April 29 Posted April 29 9 hours ago, GoBills808 said: We knew this since 2021 Agreed. I guess those of us that have been saying the same thing for years might not get shouted down anymore. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted April 29 Posted April 29 25 minutes ago, Einstein said: Sure did. 7 straight playoffs. A playoff win in all 7 of those years. Multiple AFC Championship game appearances. And the best win % in Bills history. He dragged the team kicking and screaming into relevance, and we all appreciate that. But alas it was time to go, 2 Quote
gordong Posted April 29 Posted April 29 he was the problem, his defense in the playoff failed this team every year...end of story 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 29 Posted April 29 Sean's defense and post season predictability was A problem, but it wasn't the only one. Missing on some key draft picks, free agent busts and injury have played into it as well. 1 Quote
twoandfourteen Posted April 29 Posted April 29 29 minutes ago, Einstein said: Sure did. 7 straight playoffs. A playoff win in all 7 of those years. Multiple AFC Championship game appearances. And the best win % in Bills history. Coach, it’s time to move on. You don’t need to defend yourself on a fan message board for a team you don’t work for anymore. 1 4 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted April 29 Posted April 29 8 hours ago, Kelly No huddle said: I honestly got emotional when he was on the eisen show. I'm was mad but we gotta respect coach McDermott guys. Have some class I was sad when he was let go. I knew it was the right move, but McDermott did a lot for this organization. His role in turning the franchise around is a big reason for the shiny new stadium, and he won't even get to coach in it. People I know within the Bills Organization all said McDermott was a fantastic person. Its a results based business through and after 9 years, the results spoke for themselves 3 1 Quote
zevo Posted April 29 Posted April 29 20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Josh Allen was ‘polarizing’? I understand that we all have to choose our adjectives but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard him described that way. Yeah I thought about that word. But there were people like kiper banging the table for him as his best prospect and others that just thought he would be the biggest bust in the nfl. Def more on the sides on the busts. Probably could have used another adjective there but I think still fits. 2 Quote
Shaw66 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 9 hours ago, Mikie2times said: We have one of the most unique statistical profiles in NFL history as far as accomplishments without even getting to one. I don't know how people try to shift to these extremely nuanced debates on the subject. Something wasn't right here. Any conclusion outside of that is really showing bias from my POV. Time could show that multiple things were not right, but I think we started in the correct order. I agree. And I find the ongoing discussion tiresome. It's a question we can't answer, because we weren't in the room (the locker room, the weight room, the corporate offices, anywhere). And the answer also is nuanced. The important point is what you ended with: "Started in the correct order." There simply is no question that this team was right there - they were in the playoffs year after year, and they were playing for conference championships. That says the talent, if not ideal, was good enough to compete at the highest levels. It would be very unusual for the talent not to be good enough, for great coaching nevertheless to get them where they went, and then to have them fail at the end. Why would coaching be able to save bad talent all through the regular season and for the first 58 minutes of playoff games, then fail in the last minutes? Much more likely that the talent was good enough and the coaching just failed at the finish line. But even that is simplistic, and the explanations for the failures are murky and multi-faceted. Pegula decided, correctly, that something had to change. The right thing to do was change as little as possible, because it wouldn't make sense to tear down the entire organization when it has been so close consistently. Since it looked like coaching, not talent, was the problem, starting with the coach was the right thing to do. Here's why they wouldn't start with the GM. When coaches get fired, the common comment is, "You can't fire the players, so you fire the coach." You can't fire the players because they have contracts, and if you start firing the players, your economics get completely messed up. Well, if the Bills had fired the GM, it's like firing the players. After all, if you're the new GM, you know you were brought in to change the results, and as GM there's only one thing you can do: change the players. Changing the players means a rebuild. Why would you rebuild a team that's already on the doorstep? Ravens didn't fire the GM. Great QB, failure in the playoffs. Have to start with the coach. 1 5 1 Quote
Bray Wyatt Posted April 29 Posted April 29 This got a chuckle out of me: "Numbers this bad demand consequences. Watching the Eagles defense in ’24 or the Seahawks in ’25 before flipping over to Buffalo’s defense induces a Sopranos-to-Bluey whiplash." 1 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted April 29 Posted April 29 10 hours ago, eball said: Bad coaching I’m sure this is just a hit job, right? This was just a revisitation of Dunne's piece. I'm not sure what the point is. 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 9 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: Watching McD's interview last week, I noticed how uptight he is, and how rigid about his routine. The guy is at his desk 9 hours a day on his year off. True, but 6 hours of that is looking for funny videos of NPCs in RPGs on YouTube. 🤔 1 Quote
Juice_32 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 I couldn't be happier that he is gone. And I know I'm in the minority, but I don't think he was a class act either. I think he was stubborn, uptight, and unable to take criticism. McD is the worst kind of narcissist, the kind who wears the humility mask. Good riddance to his defense that could only stop mid tier QBs. The guy wasted 5 years of a generational QB. I don't know if we will ever win one, but I know we wouldn't have with him. Cheers to Terry for having the balls to dump the bum. 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Sure did. 7 straight playoffs. A playoff win in all 7 of those years. Multiple AFC Championship game appearances. And the best win % in Bills history. Josh.............................Allen 2 1 1 1 Quote
JP51 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: He dragged the team kicking and screaming into relevance, and we all appreciate that. But alas it was time to go, I think when I look at McD, I look at Knox, Levy, Schottenhiemer, Jeff Fisher, Dan Reeves etc... these are guys brought their teams to relevance, success but IMO simply not the ones to get you to the promise land love we had him, thank him for all he has done, but time to move on... JMO 2 4 Quote
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