Keep telling us McD wasn’t the problem…

[eball]

Bad coaching

 

I’m sure this is just a hit job, right?

 

[streetkings01]

🙄

[PonyBoy]

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Nothing to see here really.

 

Why would a prospective head coach say in the interview "oh yeah, that coach you just fired, he has a great defensive scheme. You guys were foolish to fire him".

 

Just the opposite is true. Whether they believe it or not themselves, they are going to tell ownership and Beane they were correct in firing McDermott because his defense was stale and they are going to bring in a new system/DC. 

[Avisan]

15 minutes ago, eball said:

Bad coaching

 

I’m sure this is just a hit job, right?

 

Uh, yes?  What else would this be?

 

No offense but "interview candidate says unflattering things about guy-who-was-just-fired's system" is about as far from actual news as you can get, and it's kinda sad that you're fishing hard enough for reasons to dislike McDermott that you can't see that

[Mikie2times]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

When Sean McDermott was fired as a defensive coordinator calling plays for the Eagles 

 

he instantly got another job as another defensive coordinator calling plays

 

And then became a successful head coach developing a lot of players 

 

I like Joe Brady but when he was fired as an offensive coordinator calling plays... Not even his old mentor called him.. in fact no Sean McDermott gave him his next job in the NFL as a quarterback coach 

 

He did not get another job calling plays right away 

 

That just shows you what the league actually thought of those guys when they were fired.. Sean McDermott was calling plays the next year... technically Joe Brady owes this job right here to Sean McDermott cuz he wouldn't be the head coach of the Buffalo Bills if he didn't give him the quarterback coach job 

 

This website and their hatred for McDermott is ridiculous... I can't wait till Joe Brady doesn't win a Super bowl for 3 or 4 years and what they're going to start saying about him

The guy who fires him put in a good word. That is why he got the Carolina job so quick. But either way, does it matter what he did in 2011 or when he had a literal All Pro defense at his peak in Carolina? 
 

McD was a major part of the problem. Especially as the stakes got bigger. It’s possible Beane is also a problem as GM. But either way Allen has held this together way more than most here even give him credit for and plenty of people give him a lot of credit. His greatness is understated as far as what he can do with what he has. Easily the best in the league. It’s only not universally seen this way because we had a couple salesman piggybacking off an all time QB with buzz words like process and big baller. 
 

This whole thing is a house of cards without Allen and it’s not as simple as just saying every team is like that. Teams stay competitive all the time without the starter in. This team would have fallen off a cliff. Unless it was the Jets. 

1 minute ago, Avisan said:

Uh, yes?  What else would this be?

 

No offense but "interview candidate says unflattering things about guy-who-was-just-fired's system" is about as far from actual news as you can get, and it's kinda sad that you're fishing hard enough for reasons to dislike McDermott that you can't see that

It would actually reflect better if they didn’t trash McD. 

[GoBills808]

We knew this since 2021

[MJS]

Ty Dunne makes his living off of Sean McDermott hit pieces.

[Ray Stonada]

Watching McD's interview last week, I noticed how uptight he is, and how rigid about his routine. The guy is at his desk 9 hours a day on his year off.

 

Sometimes you need the crazy, the inspired, the unpredictable, in the biggest moments. McD never found that level. 

[Mikie2times]

Just now, Ray Stonada said:

Watching McD's interview last week, I noticed how uptight he is, and how rigid about his routine. The guy is at his desk 9 hours a day on his year off.

 

Sometimes you need the crazy, the inspired, the unpredictable, in the biggest moments. McD never found that level. 

Ya, I don't think he was very relatable. I know he gained traction and respect over time with how he cared about players family's and such. I worry Brady might be too relatable. We will see. It's not always easy to go from a guy that was likely trying to bridge the gap with a less relatable HC, to now having to be in full control of the whole thing. Sometimes it's just better that the person leaves all together so he can reestablish his identity a bit more. It will be one of the things I'm looking at this season especially when we face adversity.    

[Kelly No huddle]

I am glad we made the change but im trying to move on personally.  It's easy to dogpile on the guy now but im not sure what that does.. 

 

He was a good coach but we made a changes to obviously win a championship.  

 

It's also a weird prism to view things in the context that something was " wrong " or there was " a problem ".

 

They're winning at a historic rate and top 3 super bowl contenders every year. 

 

Things are actually pretty awesome lol

[Victory Formation]

49 minutes ago, eball said:

Bad coaching

 

I’m sure this is just a hit job, right?

 

Well said my friend.... I will tell you this though, its easier to fool someone then to convince someone that they've been fooled..

 

Let the homers think as they will, the truth isn't always appreciated..

[T.E.]

39 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

This website and their hatred for McDermott is ridiculous... I can't wait till Joe Brady doesn't win a Super bowl for 3 or 4 years and what they're going to start saying about him

Virtually everyone who wanted McDermott gone wanted Brady gone as well. Beane too, for that matter. The entire coaching staff and front office should've been overhauled a couple of years ago.

[Mikie2times]

Just now, Victory Formation said:

Well said my friend.... I will tell you this though, its easier to fool someone then to convince someone that they've been fooled..

 

Let the homers think as they will, the truth isn't always appreciated..

We have one of the most unique statistical profiles in NFL history as far as accomplishments without even getting to one. I don't know how people try to shift to these extremely nuanced debates on the subject. Something wasn't right here. Any conclusion outside of that is really showing bias from my POV. Time could show that multiple things were not right, but I think we started in the correct order.  

[Victory Formation]

1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:

We have one of the most unique statistical profiles in NFL history as far as accomplishments without even getting to one. I don't know how people try to shift to these extremely nuanced debates on the subject. Something wasn't right here. Any conclusion outside of that is really showing bias from my POV. Time could show that multiple things were not right, but I think we started in the correct order.  

Yes, that statistical anomaly is Josh Allen.. Beane and McD would have been fired a long time ago otherwise.. (Credit to Beane for drafting Allen..)

[DapperCam]

This is Dunne, so I’m taking it with a grain of salt.

[somnus00]

The guy was let go already. If he had been penis-y (i.e. Marrone-ish) during his time here, I'd get it. Write your article.

 

But McDermott was a class act. He gave us his all and coached the Bills out of mediocrity. I'd rather we just say thank you. Sorry it didn't work out.

 

I don't like the schadenfreude feeling of this article kicking a good man while he's down. Just my opinion. 

[Alphadawg7]

44 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

When Sean McDermott was fired as a defensive coordinator calling plays for the Eagles 

 

he instantly got another job as another defensive coordinator calling plays

 

And then became a successful head coach developing a lot of players 

 

I like Joe Brady but when he was fired as an offensive coordinator calling plays... Not even his old mentor called him.. in fact no Sean McDermott gave him his next job in the NFL as a quarterback coach 

 

He did not get another job calling plays right away 

 

That just shows you what the league actually thought of those guys when they were fired.. Sean McDermott was calling plays the next year... technically Joe Brady owes this job right here to Sean McDermott cuz he wouldn't be the head coach of the Buffalo Bills if he didn't give him the quarterback coach job 

 

This website and their hatred for McDermott is ridiculous... I can't wait till Joe Brady doesn't win a Super bowl for 3 or 4 years and what they're going to start saying about him

Nothing in the article is incorrect.  Those are statistical facts.  It’s not about it being a hit job, it’s the facts.  
 

In 3 of the last 4 losses to KC in the postseason, the Chiefs went on to lose the next game.  PPG vs Bills was over 35 and PPG the next week in those 3 losses was 17 PPG.  
 

2024 AFCCG, KC scored 32 on us and we lost despite scoring 29.  KC didn’t score 30 in any other game that season, reg or post.  29 should have beaten them, but our D again gave up 32.

 

In our 6 playoff losses, our Def gave up production average greater than the 2007 record setting Patriots offense averaged.  
 

Facts are facts - as much as I think McD is a very good HC, his playoff defense was a problem and it’s the main reason we never reached a SB yet.

[Kelly No huddle]

22 minutes ago, somnus00 said:

The guy was let go already. If he had been penis-y (i.e. Marrone-ish) during his time here, I'd get it. Write your article.

 

But McDermott was a class act. He gave us his all and coached the Bills out of mediocrity. I'd rather we just say thank you. Sorry it didn't work out.

 

I don't like the schadenfreude feeling of this article kicking a good man while he's down. Just my opinion. 

 

I honestly got emotional when he was on the eisen show. I'm was mad but we gotta respect coach McDermott guys. Have some class 

[BigAl2526]

I've never been critical of McDermott.  I think he brought a high level of consistency and competence to the organization.  There is no question, however, that he had an overall conservative approach to the game, even with some occasional bold calls.  My question is whether or not he may have had a problem with the evolution of the game.  The game is always changing, and if you continue always doing the same thing, you will end up falling short.  

 

We have heard some clues that sometimes McDermott's conservative approach may have affected Brady's play calling.  If nothing else, I think it will be interesting to see if the Brady/Carmichael offense opens things up a bit.  On the other side of the LOS, Jim Leonhard seems to be all about creativity and aggression.  It's their chance now.  Let's see what they can do.