GoBills808 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 20 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Here's my educated input based on former addictions (6yrs clean) and somebody who did a lot of white as well as adderall. The second I saw that Gase intro press conference, I knew that dude was geeked ouuuuuuttttttt. That was 100% cocaine and anxiety of "everyone knows". That looked like a literal nightmare lol As far as PED's go; it's adderall meds that anyone with half a brain would use. I think abuse might look very similar between the two, and probably have a good amount of overlap in these guys. ADD meds will give you a jolt of focus and energy, without jacking up your motor skills and making your brain crazy erratic. Put it this way, fighter pilots up until recently have been given dextroamphetamine (basically adderall - now its modafanil which is like a nootropic - less harsh), if the other were the alternative to winning a war, I have no doubt these guys would be given powder..... but man as much as white will wake you up - you're not focusing, your motor skills are TRASH. Maybe Im underestimating my fellow addicts, but I think blow would be the absolute worst PED. Blow+booze is for "recreation", and I bet many o' scripts of ADD meds get crushed during a HC's work week https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240314-the-drug-pilots-take-to-stay-awake 😂😂 from experience using cocaine as a PED does not work, strictly for a good time 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted April 28 Posted April 28 28 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Here's my educated input based on former addictions (6yrs clean) and somebody who did a lot of white as well as adderall. The second I saw that Gase intro press conference, I knew that dude was geeked ouuuuuuttttttt. That was 100% cocaine and anxiety of "everyone knows". That looked like a literal nightmare lol As far as PED's go; it's adderall meds that anyone with half a brain would use. I think abuse might look very similar between the two, and probably have a good amount of overlap in these guys. ADD meds will give you a jolt of focus and energy, without jacking up your motor skills and making your brain crazy erratic. Put it this way, fighter pilots up until recently have been given dextroamphetamine (basically adderall - now its modafanil which is like a nootropic - less harsh), if the other were the alternative to winning a war, I have no doubt these guys would be given powder..... but man as much as white will wake you up - you're not focusing, your motor skills are TRASH. Maybe Im underestimating my fellow addicts, but I think blow would be the absolute worst PED. Blow+booze is for "recreation", and I bet many o' scripts of ADD meds get crushed during a HC's work week https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240314-the-drug-pilots-take-to-stay-awake Congratulations on 6 years sober!! That’s an incredible accomplishment. I have so much respect for people that are able to do that. One day at a time 3 2 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 5 hours ago, MJS said: I guess being against illegal drugs and substance abuse is old fashioned. Oh well. I am still against it. Just because something is prevalent doesn't make it right or good for society. Neither is alcohol. Or magic mushrooms - yet you can buy shrooms at a corner store now legally. To each their own. Guns are bad too. But I've never shot a gun while on mushrooms! taht's for sure. Quote
TheBrownBear Posted April 28 Posted April 28 11 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Neither is alcohol. Or magic mushrooms - yet you can buy shrooms at a corner store now legally. To each their own. Guns are bad too. But I've never shot a gun while on mushrooms! taht's for sure. Wait, what? Where is this corner store that you speak of? I must be living under a rock. 🤣 2 Quote
JerseyBills Posted April 28 Posted April 28 21 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: Ex-NFL Star Le'Veon Bell Says He Saw Head Coach Do Cocaine In His Office Gase “did a lot of **** in that office that coaches ain’t supposed to be doing,” Bell claimed before snorting his nose in exaggerated fashion. “We about to go to practice, bro! ... This is what you’re doing in here?” “You ain’t seen him sniff coke, bro,” Laboy responded. “With my own two [eyes],” Bell said. “Hey, not just once, though.” Saw this cpl days ago - hilarious 1 Quote
BillsSbSoon Posted April 28 Posted April 28 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: There are lot of Sean Payton stories from New Orleans. I knew lots of people within the organization and a handful in the locker room. Not at all surprising when you think about Sean Payton as a person. Knocking up the cheerleader was a much bigger headache than his partying. Brees too? Cause I’ve heard stories before but going back to Purdue days Quote
Capco Posted April 28 Posted April 28 5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: My military friends tell me Air Force pilots are on coke a lot. Afaik, pilots routinely get prescribed Dexedrine to keep them alert during long flights. Quote
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted April 28 Posted April 28 23 hours ago, Big Turk said: That's nothing. As a well known House DJ at various clubs back in the day, I used to get invited to lots of after parties at people's houses and there was a well known big-shot surgeon that used to attend... I watched the man do 2 lines of coke and God knows what else throughout the night at the club and then his pager started going off and he was like "Sorry guys, gotta take off...being called in for surgery!" We all just say there stunned and I think everyone made a mental note to make sure it was documented somewhere that we never wanted him as our surgeon 🤣 sounds like he should have been reported to the medical board before he killed someone…if he didn’t already or since. 1 Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Just to add some additional historical input to the topic, some emerging research seeks to tie in extensive use of “Pervitin” (a type of methamphetamine) in the German Army during the war to the (at the time) unparalleled Blitzkrieg successes against the Allies in the first half of ww2…not sure how much stock to put into it as new tactics by Germany utilizing cutting edge combined arms theory played the biggest part in the fall of France imho; but doubtless Pervitin helped in localized situations to keep troops moving during extended marches and little sleep. The US Army also made significant use of Pervitin during Vietnam apparently. https://www.deutschlandmuseum.de/en/collection/stimulant-pervitin/#:~:text=Methamphetamine in the post-war,it during the Vietnam War. 1 Quote
GaryPinC Posted April 29 Posted April 29 12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Lol, that wouldn’t surprise me. He is not above it (nor is she). He ended up marrying his side piece, after his wife left him, after he fathered the child with the cheerleader. He’s the OG scumbag. He just has good lawyers and PR. In a small town like New Orleans (or Buffalo) he was protected. The same thing would have happened here. The rumors were out there (many of which I know to be true). Those Saints teams operated like the early 90’s Bills. They are such an important part of the community though, no one wanted his, or anyone else’s dirty laundry out there. They turned a blind eye. The same thing would happen here. That’s tougher to do in Boston or New York. Well, Joe Brady professes to being from the Sean Payton tree and says he's a high energy guy. "Snow blow" Joe??🤔 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 18 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Wait, what? Where is this corner store that you speak of? I must be living under a rock. 🤣 There are 2 or 3 in Hamilton ON, and a few in Toronto too. Just now, Dillenger4 said: There are 2 or 3 in Hamilton ON, and a few in Toronto too. One is called: FunGuyz, another Shroomyz and a third is Mushroom Dispensary. 1 Quote
seattlebillsfan Posted April 29 Posted April 29 17 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Just to add some additional historical input to the topic, some emerging research seeks to tie in extensive use of “Pervitin” (a type of methamphetamine) in the German Army during the war to the (at the time) unparalleled Blitzkrieg successes against the Allies in the first half of ww2…not sure how much stock to put into it as new tactics by Germany utilizing cutting edge combined arms theory played the biggest part in the fall of France imho; but doubtless Pervitin helped in localized situations to keep troops moving during extended marches and little sleep. The US Army also made significant use of Pervitin during Vietnam apparently. https://www.deutschlandmuseum.de/en/collection/stimulant-pervitin/#:~:text=Methamphetamine in the post-war,it during the Vietnam War. There is a great book about drug use in Nazi Germany—powering the Blitzkrieg, messing up Goering so much that he allowed the British to escape from Dunkirk, and of course Hitler’s many addictions. The book is called “Blitzed”. Highly recommend it. 1 Quote
cba fan Posted April 29 Posted April 29 On 4/27/2026 at 4:44 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: Ex-NFL Star Le'Veon Bell Says He Saw Head Coach Do Cocaine In His Office Gase “did a lot of **** in that office that coaches ain’t supposed to be doing,” Bell claimed before snorting his nose in exaggerated fashion. “We about to go to practice, bro! ... This is what you’re doing in here?” “You ain’t seen him sniff coke, bro,” Laboy responded. “With my own two [eyes],” Bell said. “Hey, not just once, though.” i don't believe much Bell says but......lol......those Gase eyes don't lie. Quote
ticketssince61 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 19 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Just to add some additional historical input to the topic, some emerging research seeks to tie in extensive use of “Pervitin” (a type of methamphetamine) in the German Army during the war to the (at the time) unparalleled Blitzkrieg successes against the Allies in the first half of ww2…not sure how much stock to put into it as new tactics by Germany utilizing cutting edge combined arms theory played the biggest part in the fall of France imho; but doubtless Pervitin helped in localized situations to keep troops moving during extended marches and little sleep. The US Army also made significant use of Pervitin during Vietnam apparently. https://www.deutschlandmuseum.de/en/collection/stimulant-pervitin/#:~:text=Methamphetamine in the post-war,it during the Vietnam War. US infantry soldiers were given speed during WWII Medical science and the military: the Allies' use of amphetamine during World War II Nicolas Rasmussen PMID: 22073434 DOI: 10.1162/jinh_a_00212 Abstract Although amphetamine was thoroughly tested by leading scientists for its effects in boosting or maintaining physical and mental performance in fatigued subjects, the results never provided solid grounds for approving the drug's use, and, in any case, came too late to be decisive. The grounds on which amphetamine was actually adopted by both British and American militaries had less to do with the science of fatigue than with the drug's mood-altering effects, as judged by military men. It increased confidence and aggression, and elevated "morale." 1 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted April 30 Posted April 30 I'm guessing Le'Veon was there waiting with a rolled up C-Note ... Gase is now the pass game coordinator for the Chargers ... Bell needs money bad 🤐 A married coach sleeping with a married reporter is more important these days. Quote
hondo in seattle Posted May 1 Posted May 1 On 4/28/2026 at 9:26 AM, Kirby Jackson said: It’s always interesting to me how the pendulum swings on these things. When I was in high school and college everyone smoked cigarettes (late 90’s-early 2000’s). Cocaine was taboo and weed was too (to a lesser extent). I’d say that the pendulum totally swung on the weed/cigarette thing. Now there are dispensaries everywhere and it is so common. It isn’t really frowned upon at this point. If you smoke cigarettes in 2026, you’re an outcast. People are judging you. Cocaine is a bit of a different topic. It doesn’t feel taboo at this point. It’s everywhere. It’s a different topic though because of fentanyl. It’s like a game of Russian Roulette that these executives are always playing. At the same time, you can go to the grocery store and buy test strips to make sure your cocaine is pure. That would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. It’s just a different world. I wonder what’s next? Kirby, I must live in a different world than you do because your "everyone" and "everywhere" comments don't ring true for me. The people I associate with mostly don't smoke cigarettes or do coke - and never have. My circle of friends would consider coke 'taboo.' When I first went to college in the late 1970s, though, weed was ubiquitous. And when I transferred to a different school, I discovered that alcohol was the drug of choice. Btw, I traveled to Colombia a couple of times back in the 2000s and knew some people there. This is back when Colombia was both the cocaine and kidnap capital of the world - a nice double crown. The group of people I hung with in Bogota said they had never even seen cocaine. Its use wasn't unheard of in Colombia, but it was more profitable to sell it in the US. Social groups and regional differences seem to matter. 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: Kirby, I must live in a different world than you do because your "everyone" and "everywhere" comments don't ring true for me. The people I associate with mostly don't smoke cigarettes or do coke - and never have. My circle of friends would consider coke 'taboo.' When I first went to college in the late 1970s, though, weed was ubiquitous. And when I transferred to a different school, I discovered that alcohol was the drug of choice. Btw, I traveled to Colombia a couple of times back in the 2000s and knew some people there. This is back when Colombia was both the cocaine and kidnap capital of the world - a nice double crown. The group of people I hung with in Bogota said they had never even seen cocaine. Its use wasn't unheard of in Colombia, but it was more profitable to sell it in the US. Social groups and regional differences seem to matter. The cigarette piece probably is applicable across the board. In college, (25 years ago) it felt like 1 out of every 2 people smoked cigarettes, at least socially. There were smoking sections in restaurants, you could buy cigarettes at all stores. I can count on one hand (probably I haven’t tested this) how many people I know now that are smokers. Back then, I could have counted hundreds (or at least dozens). Social smoking seems to have plummeted as well. That probably goes together. There are less actual smokers so less people have cigarettes to bum. In terms of cocaine, I’m assuming that part of the reason it feels so much more common now is probably age and where people are in their careers. It wasn’t rampant in college (although it was there) because it was too expensive and hard to get. Now, I see all these executives and business people trying to stretch their limits. That’s why it’s so common with these football coaches. They’re not putting in 16-18 days on coffee and adrenaline. Cocaine has been common throughout my professional life (although I don’t use cocaine because I’m terrified of fentanyl). People do though and they do all the time. It was that way when I was in sports and certainly that way in insurance. Finance bros. are worse than all of them. I don’t know if it is like that in other cultures but the “rat race” is filled with it. It’s really easy to get. I was on a bachelor party a few years back and there was roughly 20 guys. 80% of them were partaking. These were doctors, lawyers, accountants, and a few business owners. Half of them had families at the time. From my experience way more people use it than you’d think. Maybe it was like that before and now I’m just in the age group / social circles where it has always been. My exposure to it though has grown exponentially over the last 10-15 years. Edited May 1 by Kirby Jackson 2 Quote
Wacka Posted May 1 Posted May 1 On 4/27/2026 at 6:17 PM, MiltonWaddams said: And if you go to his grave in Forest Lawn in Buffalo you must say that. I did. Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted May 2 Posted May 2 On 4/27/2026 at 5:54 PM, Big Turk said: That's nothing. As a well known House DJ at various clubs back in the day, I used to get invited to lots of after parties at people's houses and there was a well known big-shot surgeon that used to attend... I watched the man do 2 lines of coke and God knows what else throughout the night at the club and then his pager started going off and he was like "Sorry guys, gotta take off...being called in for surgery!" We all just say there stunned and I think everyone made a mental note to make sure it was documented somewhere that we never wanted him as our surgeon 🤣 I was operated on by a surgeon who was busted for crack, sometime before my surgery. Unbeknownst to me, he had been placed into an 'Impaired physicians' program. My prescribed one, to two-day hospital stay, turned into six days. This guy never came to the hospital to check my progress, even once! 1 Quote
blacklabel Posted May 2 Posted May 2 Youse guys don't do a little pre-practice bumparoo? Amateurs! Quote
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