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8 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I posted this in the other Gase thread, but putting it here because this is a crazy video all around. The Co-keenya allegations are in here too.

 

 

I looked up this game, and the Bengals were indeed 0-11 going in. didn't look into the weather, but both teams threw for around 270 yards. Bengals rushed for 40. Jets rushed for 60. So I guess both coaches had the same dumb idea? 

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11 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I don't believe him


First, I am suspect of any words coming out of Bell’s mouth.  Second, it wouldn’t surprise me if Gase or any other HC or even assistant for that matter had a substance abuse problem.  I just don’t know, nor do I really care.  Heck a high percentage of PEO athletes have substance abuse issues.

 

This isn’t something only the general public fights.  It’s rampant in all sectors of society.

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Posted
11 hours ago, ryguy101 said:

Who knows maybe McDermott was doing it??? Do we really know what happens behind closed doors?

Nah, he would have had a way more aggressive defensive if he was.  

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Posted
12 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Mmmhmm...bet it happened late at night on a weekend 🤣

 

Wednesday

 

It wasn't the first or the second incident either.  He had previously perforated an intestine and removed part of a bowel when attempting to perform an ileostomy (that's the procedure that allows your poop to exit through a stoma).  The patient died.  Then he removed a pancreas instead of an adrenal gland.

 

Why his license wasn't suspended and his hospital privileges revoked way earlier illustrates that the Florida Board of Medicine (and probably other states) are NOT doing a good job of policing their own.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Man with No Name said:

was thinking the same as the above guys. crushed up aderall seems much more likely. 

 

Nah, coke seems the most likely. Here is Gase's Offensive Line coach at his office desk. Emphasis on LINE.

 

 

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Posted
15 hours ago, Big Turk said:

That's nothing. As a well known House DJ at various clubs back in the day, I used to get invited to lots of after parties at people's houses and there was a well known big-shot surgeon that used to attend...

 

I watched the man do 2 lines of coke and God knows what else throughout the night at the club and then his pager started going off and he was like "Sorry guys, gotta take off...being called in for surgery!" 

 

We all just say there stunned and I think everyone made a mental note to make sure it was documented somewhere that we never wanted him as our surgeon 🤣


I have to get wisdom teeth removed today. Glad I read this 

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Posted
15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m kind of surprised that people are surprised. Sean Payton used to do it all the time.

 

Did we really think these guys were putting in 16-18 hours day without performance enhancing drugs? It’s the same thing the guy on Wall St. is doing. 

Sean Payton and Coke? Never heard that one before. Pills yeah 

Posted
Just now, BillsSbSoon said:

Sean Payton and Coke? Never heard that one before. Pills yeah 

There are lot of Sean Payton stories from New Orleans. I knew lots of people within the organization and a handful in the locker room. Not at all surprising when you think about Sean Payton as a person. Knocking up the cheerleader was a much bigger headache than his partying. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are lot of Sean Payton stories from New Orleans. I knew lots of people within the organization and a handful in the locker room. Not at all surprising when you think about Sean Payton as a person. Knocking up the cheerleader was a much bigger headache than his partying. 

I've seen rumors floating around on Twitter that Sean Payton is in the Russini Files

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

I've seen rumors floating around on Twitter that Sean Payton is in the Russini Files

Lol, that wouldn’t surprise me. He is not above it (nor is she). He ended up marrying his side piece, after his wife left him, after he fathered the child with the cheerleader.
 

He’s the OG scumbag. He just has good lawyers and PR. In a small town like New Orleans (or Buffalo) he was protected. The same thing would have happened here. The rumors were out there (many of which I know to be true). Those Saints teams operated like the early 90’s Bills. They are such an important part of the community though, no one wanted his, or anyone else’s dirty laundry out there. They turned a blind eye. The same thing would happen here. That’s tougher to do in Boston or New York.

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Posted
15 hours ago, GolfandBills said:

I’m sure it’s probably more prevalent than people think.  Who cares 

I guess being against illegal drugs and substance abuse is old fashioned. Oh well. I am still against it. Just because something is prevalent doesn't make it right or good for society.

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38 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are lot of Sean Payton stories from New Orleans. I knew lots of people within the organization and a handful in the locker room. Not at all surprising when you think about Sean Payton as a person. Knocking up the cheerleader was a much bigger headache than his partying. 

Yeah I have heard things about Payton, seems like a class A Do shhhhhh! 

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, that wouldn’t surprise me. He is not above it (nor is she). He ended up marrying his side piece, after his wife left him, after he fathered the child with the cheerleader.
 

He’s the OG scumbag. He just has good lawyers and PR. In a small town like New Orleans (or Buffalo) he was protected. The same thing would have happened here. The rumors were out there (many of which I know to be true). Those Saints teams operated like the early 90’s Bills. They are such an important part of the community though, no one wanted his, or anyone else’s dirty laundry out there. They turned a blind eye. The same thing would happen here. That’s tougher to do in Boston or New York.

Yeah although I don't have any direct knowledge of anything, even just the demeanor of Sean Payton that doesn't surprise me.  I've never been a fan of the guy.  Have also heard some similar things said about Drew Brees but he does a better job at hiding his true personality in the media

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Posted
16 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I don't believe him

maybe he was jealous...

lawrence Taylor.....may have done a few substances for the gmen

Posted
8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Are people still acting like coke is a big deal?

It’s always interesting to me how the pendulum swings on these things. When I was in high school and college everyone smoked cigarettes (late 90’s-early 2000’s). Cocaine was taboo and weed was too (to a lesser extent). I’d say that the pendulum totally swung on the weed/cigarette thing. Now there are dispensaries everywhere and it is so common. It isn’t really frowned upon at this point. If you smoke cigarettes in 2026, you’re an outcast. People are judging you. 
 

Cocaine is a bit of a different topic. It doesn’t feel taboo at this point. It’s everywhere. It’s a different topic though because of fentanyl. It’s like a game of Russian Roulette that these executives are always playing. At the same time, you can go to the grocery store and buy test strips to make sure your cocaine is pure. That would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. It’s just a different world. I wonder what’s next?

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22 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s always interesting to me how the pendulum swings on these things. When I was in high school and college everyone smoked cigarettes (late 90’s-early 2000’s). Cocaine was taboo and weed was too (to a lesser extent). I’d say that the pendulum totally swung on the weed/cigarette thing. Now there are dispensaries everywhere and it is so common. It isn’t really frowned upon at this point. If you smoke cigarettes in 2026, you’re an outcast. People are judging you. 
 

Cocaine is a bit of a different topic. It doesn’t feel taboo at this point. It’s everywhere. It’s a different topic though because of fentanyl. It’s like a game of Russian Roulette that these executives are always playing. At the same time, you can go to the grocery store and buy test strips to make sure your cocaine is pure. That would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. It’s just a different world. I wonder what’s next?

People seem to have very "flexible" espoused morals/norms and the laws of the era seem to have a big effect on that. legal = good/fine, illegal = bad.

It's always interesting what gets players/personalities in hot water with fans/media.
 

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Posted
19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m kind of surprised that people are surprised. Sean Payton used to do it all the time.

 

Did we really think these guys were putting in 16-18 hours day without performance enhancing drugs? It’s the same thing the guy on Wall St. is doing. 

Here's my educated input based on former addictions (6yrs clean) and somebody who did a lot of white as well as adderall.  The second I saw that Gase intro press conference, I knew that dude was geeked ouuuuuuttttttt.  That was 100% cocaine and anxiety of "everyone knows".  That looked like a literal nightmare lol

 

As far as PED's go; it's adderall meds that anyone with half a brain would use.   I think abuse might look very similar between the two, and probably have a good amount of overlap in these guys. ADD meds will give you a jolt of focus and energy, without jacking up your motor skills and making your brain crazy erratic.  Put it this way, fighter pilots up until recently have been given dextroamphetamine (basically adderall - now its modafanil which is like a nootropic - less harsh), if the other were the alternative to winning a war, I have no doubt these guys would be given powder..... but man as much as white will wake you up - you're not focusing, your motor skills are TRASH.

 

Maybe Im underestimating my fellow addicts, but I think blow would be the absolute worst PED. Blow+booze is for "recreation", and I bet many o' scripts of ADD meds get crushed during a HC's work week 

 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240314-the-drug-pilots-take-to-stay-awake

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Posted
2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

People seem to have very "flexible" espoused morals/norms and the laws of the era seem to have a big effect on that. legal = good/fine, illegal = bad.

It's always interesting what gets players/personalities in hot water with fans/media.
 

I agree.  I grew up in a house, that looking back, bought into the 'reefer madness' type thinking.  I heard all these crazy stories that with the power of hindsight, realize were urban myths.... aside from the whole "gateway drug", which is actually booze for most IMO.

 

So when I got to high school, I'd fully believed all the weed rumors "it kills brain cells every time" or "ever heard of the kid who ate a brownie and tried to tight rope walk a power line" (L-o-L, ridiculous)..... but then there were kids that raved about it, even athletes.  None of them died, or had anything bad happen.  Eventually I tried it (while drinking), and it was awesome. I kept trying it, and had no real consequences, and figured out my parents were full of s***.

 

That eventually evolved into me not believing what they'd said about real drugs like coke and a bit into pills (thank God back then when they were all real from a pharmacy, just 2nd hand).  I've got 6 years clean, and thats one thing I've purposely set out to do different with my kids.  I'm fairly open about my drug/alcohol abuse with them... and I don't lie about weed.  I don't downplay it either, it can have negative effects on school, and personality when young, but mainly that it can put you in a bad circle of the wrong crowd.

 

Alcohol & weed have a time and a place, and I'd prefer they stay away even as adults.... but if Im being honest, weed is by far the least harmful, and in no way belong in the same category as pills/powder/needles

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