Sierra Foothills Posted June 19 Posted June 19 5 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: What does this mean? Can you please translate this into non-casino English? 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted June 19 Posted June 19 Word is he’s a 1 read thrower (usually deep) with poor deep accuracy. He had 1 pretty good year in his last season (Cincy). Quote
machine gun kelly Posted June 19 Posted June 19 16 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: That movie was so funny. Then the other knockoffs were equally as funny. Johnny Dangerously, I’m Gonna Get You Sucka, and of course the Naked Gun. All spoofs, ans all hysterically funny if your open to silly funny. 1 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted June 19 Posted June 19 On 6/16/2026 at 9:18 PM, DCofNC said: Ehh, throw a 5th rounder on him in the supplemental draft, see if we can get a talented back up on the cheap and flip him for picks later. How’s THAT for a gamble? I'd consider it... better than spending money on poor backups every year anyways. High upside, on a low pick (I still value a 5th, but were talking about a QB, ultimate upside when you're right, at way better odds than the lotto). He plays similar'ish to Josh too. Very good runner, strong arm, he's a dawg on the field. Worst Case: Lost 5th Mid Case: Backup situation solved, cheap, for years Best case: He has a few starts after we wrap up 1st rd bye early, he goes all Malik Willis.... maybe have some enormous return on a trade. I'd 100% kick the tires. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted June 19 Posted June 19 On 6/16/2026 at 6:17 PM, Mikie2times said: You said he supposedly gambled all his career earnings away, which is a laughable statement, backed up by no evidence. That is what I was challenging. He is a known gambler. You have a valid case about how bad gambling is. You don't need to make things up to try and strengthen your point. Imagine being him for even one day. After his fathers death he wanted to get back to just enjoying sports and not being Michael Jordan. It's not anymore complicated than that. He did it because he could. His gambling didnt stop there. He got really chummy, with Gabe Plotkin douchbag hedge fund owner, chunk of Jordan's fortune landed there, contributing to the attempted cellar boxing of GameStop.... Melvin Capital got wreckeddddddddd, and shut down..... Awfully weird coincidence Jordan "sold" his team to Plotkin. Annoying AF as a Hornets fan. I love going to the games, but loathe hedgies like Plotkin and Ken Griffin... so im real liberal spraying piss all over the floor at Spectrum Center. TAKE THAT GABE!!! On 6/17/2026 at 9:23 AM, Pete said: I had an overnight job at Mohegan at employee break restaurant- and I would hear all of the goings on. I’d talk to head of operations, head of security, dealers, cocktail waitress in high rollers lounges, coordinators, etc. Two things I remember being told- Bruno Mars was paid $5million to perform at Mohegan and lost it all gambling. Jennifer Lopez sent back the Baby Crib 3 times. Wasnt that Drake? Or maybe both? Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted June 23 Posted June 23 On 6/16/2026 at 9:09 PM, Sierra Foothills said: Apparently while Sorsby has applied for the supplemental draft, the NFL hasn't actually accepted his application for the supplemental draft. "If the NFL decides not to accept Sorsby into the supplemental draft, the NFLPA will have no standing to challenge the move. If, alternatively, he’s suspended after he is drafted, the NFLPA can mobilize with a formal grievance. Fifteen years ago, the NFL suspended quarterback Terrelle Pryor after the Raiders made him a third-round pick in the 2011 supplemental draft. The NFLPA filed a grievance, and the ruling was upheld... Either way, the next big question is whether the NFL will, or won’t, grant Sorsby admission into the supplemental draft. The only plausible argument against admission is that he knew or should have known he had lost his NCAA eligibility due to his gambling activities, and that he should have applied for the 2026 regular draft." https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brendan-sorsby-wont-have-union-protection-until-he-signs-a-contract-or-is-drafted The NFL has decided not to accommodate Sorsby's request to be included in a supplemental draft. As part and parcel, there will not be a supplemental draft this year. The league apparently released their letter to Sorsby to media outlets before sending it to Sorsby or his team. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-releases-its-letter-to-brendan-sorsby The NFL Letter: “We are in receipt of your Petition for Special Eligibility, dated June 16, 2026 (‘Petition’). As announced earlier today, the League has elected not to conduct a Supplemental Draft this year. “Under our Collective Bargaining Agreement, the League retains sole discretion to determine whether it is appropriate to conduct a Supplemental Draft in any given year. The League has not conducted such a draft for several years and, prior to your submission, the League had no plans to do so this year, as no other player has sought entry. Your Petition — filed three business days before the deadline, without any supporting information or documentation, and only after abandoning your recent litigation efforts to avoid NCAA sanctions — does not provide a basis for the League to alter those plans. The issues presented by your Petition are too significant, and too closely tied to the League’s core integrity interests, to permit meaningful review within the timeline presented. “The sole reasons identified in your Petition for seeking entry into the Supplemental Draft are that you have been ‘declared ineligible’ by the NCAA, have ‘exhausted all of [your] avenues to continue in the NCAA,’ and ‘want to now play in the NFL.’ The Petition provides no information regarding the basis for, or timing of, the NCAA’s decision. Public sources, however, indicate that in May 2026 the NCAA issued a determination declaring you permanently ineligible from participation in college athletics, based on a sustained pattern of improper gambling activity during your collegiate career at three different universities. “The League does not have the complete record of the NCAA’s investigation, and you did not provide any such materials with your Petition. Available information nonetheless indicates that, over the course of your collegiate career, you knowingly engaged in repeated and significant violations of NCAA rules designed to preserve the integrity of athletic competition. Reported conduct includes placing wagers on your own team and teammates and, to avoid detection, establishing or funding accounts in the names of intermediaries who placed bets on your behalf. There are also reports that you may have violated state criminal law. “Your Petition does not address these matters. Nor does it demonstrate accountability for your conduct or indicate whether, or how, you would adhere to the League’s rules and policies governing the integrity of competition. Instead, even after receiving notice of the NCAA’s decision rescinding your college eligibility in May, you sought to avoid the consequences of that determination through litigation rather than accepting responsibility for your actions, and you pursued entry into the NFL only after abandoning those efforts. “As Commissioner Goodell has emphasized, participation in the NFL is a privilege that carries with it significant responsibilities, including accountability. By all accounts, you are a talented player with the potential for future success. We encourage you to focus on preparing for possible entry into the NFL through the 2027 NFL Annual Draft.” ProFootballTalk: "Comments from Sorsby’s lawyer, Jeffrey Kessler, make clear that there will be some form of legal challenge. In a subsequent post, we’ll address the multiple problems with the NFL’s position, as it relates to the language of the CBA." Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Bottom line, he is done with football. No one is going to touch a guy who bet on his own team. 1 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted June 23 Posted June 23 And as expected, Sorsby's lawyer will contest the NFL's decision to not hold a supplemental draft this year: “It is a violation of the CBA and the law,” Jeffrey Kessler told Pete Thamel of ESPN. “We will pursue this immediately with the NFLPA.” PFT: "Sorsby isn’t a member of the NFL Players Association. However, the supplemental draft was created by collective bargaining. The NFLPA has standing to challenge the NFL’s decision to not conduct a supplemental draft — if it chooses to do so. Sorsby has separate rights that could be pursued in court. Kessler has not yet said that he will be filing a lawsuit. It’s obviously one of the potential avenues for pursuing relief from the NFL’s decision to freeze Sorsby out until 2027." https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jeffrey-kessler-exclusion-of-brendan-sorsby-from-supplemental-draft-violates-the-cba Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Where he goes in the regular draft, a year removed from football will be interesting. Can he go to Canada?? Quote
Mr. WEO Posted June 23 Posted June 23 39 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: And as expected, Sorsby's lawyer will contest the NFL's decision to not hold a supplemental draft this year: “It is a violation of the CBA and the law,” Jeffrey Kessler told Pete Thamel of ESPN. “We will pursue this immediately with the NFLPA.” PFT: "Sorsby isn’t a member of the NFL Players Association. However, the supplemental draft was created by collective bargaining. The NFLPA has standing to challenge the NFL’s decision to not conduct a supplemental draft — if it chooses to do so. Sorsby has separate rights that could be pursued in court. Kessler has not yet said that he will be filing a lawsuit. It’s obviously one of the potential avenues for pursuing relief from the NFL’s decision to freeze Sorsby out until 2027." https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jeffrey-kessler-exclusion-of-brendan-sorsby-from-supplemental-draft-violates-the-cba Sorsby would have no standing—he’s not a member of the CBA. Why can’t any team sign him as a FA? 1 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted June 23 Posted June 23 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Sorsby would have no standing—he’s not a member of the CBA. Why can’t any team sign him as a FA? If he is denied a supplemental draft spot, he is ineligible to sign with any NFL team until after the next NFL draft. If he wants to play in the NFL, he has to wait until the 2027 draft. Maybe he can sign with the CFL, but he'd have to have a team obtain his rights before signing & I don't know how that works for someone denied a spot in an NFL draft. Canadians, a little help. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted June 23 Posted June 23 24 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: If he is denied a supplemental draft spot, he is ineligible to sign with any NFL team until after the next NFL draft. If he wants to play in the NFL, he has to wait until the 2027 draft. Maybe he can sign with the CFL, but he'd have to have a team obtain his rights before signing & I don't know how that works for someone denied a spot in an NFL draft. Canadians, a little help. There is no supplemental draft this year Quote
That's No Moon Posted June 23 Posted June 23 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Bottom line, he is done with football. No one is going to touch a guy who bet on his own team. wanna bet? 1 3 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted June 23 Posted June 23 The absolute hypocrisy of the NCAA and NFL blows my mind. The NFL made a reported $132 million dollars from gambling sites in 2026. The NCAA made tens of millions as well. Gamblers spent 3.3 billion dollars on the Men's basketball tournament alone. Either you condone it or you dont. Meanwhile here is a list of players either active or eligible to play in the NFL next year. Give me a break with this garbage. Current NFL Players with Domestic Violence / Assault-Related Cases Tyreek Hill-Miami-Dolphins Pleaded guilty in 2015 to domestic assault and battery by strangulation involving his pregnant girlfriend while in college. Later faced additional domestic violence allegations that remain disputed. Joe Mixon-Houston Texans Entered an Alford plea to misdemeanor assault after punching a woman in 2014, causing serious facial injuries. Kareem Hunt Kansas City Chiefs Released by Kansas City in 2018 after video showed him assaulting and kicking a woman in a hotel incident. Josh Jacobs-Green Bay Packers Arrested in May 2026 on multiple domestic-abuse-related charges, including battery and felony strangulation. The case is ongoing and he denies the allegations. Jonathon Cooper- Denver Broncos Arrested twice in June 2026 on domestic violence-related allegations, including assault and protection-order violations. Charges are pending. One active player with a notable homicide-related legal history is: Jalen Carter-Philadelphia Eagles-Charged in connection with a fatal street-racing incident in 2023 that killed two people. He pleaded no contest to misdemeanor racing and reckless-driving charges. He was not charged with manslaughter or murder. 1 1 Quote
Rochesterfan Posted June 23 Posted June 23 This is such a dumb decision by Sorsby. The best thing he could do for himself is to wait for the next draft and take this year to work with former players to get better and rehabilitate his image by going on a college and high school tour talking about what happened to him. The worst thing is to keep challenging the employers that you are trying to work for together them to let you in. He tried it with college and his college was going to get destroyed by the conference. Now he is going to try it with the NFL and they have shown they do not play nice with guys that sue them - see Mr. Kapernick. If he would of said - ok thank you and let’s work on what you want to see as proof and I will work on things - He would still struggle, but there would be a better chance they make space for him next year. Quote
Doc Brown Posted June 23 Posted June 23 28 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: The absolute hypocrisy of the NCAA and NFL blows my mind. The NFL made a reported $132 million dollars from gambling sites in 2026. The NCAA made tens of millions as well. Gamblers spent 3.3 billion dollars on the Men's basketball tournament alone. Either you condone it or you dont. Meanwhile here is a list of players either active or eligible to play in the NFL next year. Give me a break with this garbage. Current NFL Players with Domestic Violence / Assault-Related Cases Tyreek Hill-Miami-Dolphins Pleaded guilty in 2015 to domestic assault and battery by strangulation involving his pregnant girlfriend while in college. Later faced additional domestic violence allegations that remain disputed. Joe Mixon-Houston Texans Entered an Alford plea to misdemeanor assault after punching a woman in 2014, causing serious facial injuries. Kareem Hunt Kansas City Chiefs Released by Kansas City in 2018 after video showed him assaulting and kicking a woman in a hotel incident. Josh Jacobs-Green Bay Packers Arrested in May 2026 on multiple domestic-abuse-related charges, including battery and felony strangulation. The case is ongoing and he denies the allegations. Jonathon Cooper- Denver Broncos Arrested twice in June 2026 on domestic violence-related allegations, including assault and protection-order violations. Charges are pending. One active player with a notable homicide-related legal history is: Jalen Carter-Philadelphia Eagles-Charged in connection with a fatal street-racing incident in 2023 that killed two people. He pleaded no contest to misdemeanor racing and reckless-driving charges. He was not charged with manslaughter or murder. None of those players crimes had the potential to make people hesitate to open up their wallets/phones and place bets on games. If enough people start to think that games are fixed (either by the refs or players) the less likely they are to watch/wager and the NFL will lose money because of it. Punishment for gambling has to be severe or the game eventually folds. Quote
B-Man Posted June 23 Posted June 23 NFL Cancels 2026 Supplemental Draft As Brendan Sorsby Gambling Saga Looms Large https://pjmedia.com/chris-queen/2026/06/23/nfl-cancels-2026-supplemental-draft-as-brendan-sorsby-gambling-saga-looms-large-n4954290#google_vignette Quote
thenorthremembers Posted June 23 Posted June 23 33 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: None of those players crimes had the potential to make people hesitate to open up their wallets/phones and place bets on games. If enough people start to think that games are fixed (either by the refs or players) the less likely they are to watch/wager and the NFL will lose money because of it. Punishment for gambling has to be severe or the game eventually folds. If anyone is watching the NFL right now and doesn't think a Ref has the potential to fix a game they are morons. If a person is morally bankrupt enough to beat a woman or child is it such a far reach to think they may throw a game or two? Its incredibly myopic to think NFL games arent impacted by bad actors on a weekly basis. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted June 23 Posted June 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: The NFL has decided not to accommodate Sorsby's request to be included in a supplemental draft. As part and parcel, there will not be a supplemental draft this year. The league apparently released their letter to Sorsby to media outlets before sending it to Sorsby or his team. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-releases-its-letter-to-brendan-sorsby The NFL Letter: “We are in receipt of your Petition for Special Eligibility, dated June 16, 2026 (‘Petition’). As announced earlier today, the League has elected not to conduct a Supplemental Draft this year. “Under our Collective Bargaining Agreement, the League retains sole discretion to determine whether it is appropriate to conduct a Supplemental Draft in any given year. The League has not conducted such a draft for several years and, prior to your submission, the League had no plans to do so this year, as no other player has sought entry. Your Petition — filed three business days before the deadline, without any supporting information or documentation, and only after abandoning your recent litigation efforts to avoid NCAA sanctions — does not provide a basis for the League to alter those plans. The issues presented by your Petition are too significant, and too closely tied to the League’s core integrity interests, to permit meaningful review within the timeline presented. “The sole reasons identified in your Petition for seeking entry into the Supplemental Draft are that you have been ‘declared ineligible’ by the NCAA, have ‘exhausted all of [your] avenues to continue in the NCAA,’ and ‘want to now play in the NFL.’ The Petition provides no information regarding the basis for, or timing of, the NCAA’s decision. Public sources, however, indicate that in May 2026 the NCAA issued a determination declaring you permanently ineligible from participation in college athletics, based on a sustained pattern of improper gambling activity during your collegiate career at three different universities. “The League does not have the complete record of the NCAA’s investigation, and you did not provide any such materials with your Petition. Available information nonetheless indicates that, over the course of your collegiate career, you knowingly engaged in repeated and significant violations of NCAA rules designed to preserve the integrity of athletic competition. Reported conduct includes placing wagers on your own team and teammates and, to avoid detection, establishing or funding accounts in the names of intermediaries who placed bets on your behalf. There are also reports that you may have violated state criminal law. “Your Petition does not address these matters. Nor does it demonstrate accountability for your conduct or indicate whether, or how, you would adhere to the League’s rules and policies governing the integrity of competition. Instead, even after receiving notice of the NCAA’s decision rescinding your college eligibility in May, you sought to avoid the consequences of that determination through litigation rather than accepting responsibility for your actions, and you pursued entry into the NFL only after abandoning those efforts. “As Commissioner Goodell has emphasized, participation in the NFL is a privilege that carries with it significant responsibilities, including accountability. By all accounts, you are a talented player with the potential for future success. We encourage you to focus on preparing for possible entry into the NFL through the 2027 NFL Annual Draft.” ProFootballTalk: "Comments from Sorsby’s lawyer, Jeffrey Kessler, make clear that there will be some form of legal challenge. In a subsequent post, we’ll address the multiple problems with the NFL’s position, as it relates to the language of the CBA." 48 minutes ago, B-Man said: NFL Cancels 2026 Supplemental Draft As Brendan Sorsby Gambling Saga Looms Large https://pjmedia.com/chris-queen/2026/06/23/nfl-cancels-2026-supplemental-draft-as-brendan-sorsby-gambling-saga-looms-large-n4954290#google_vignette As I posted upstream of you: “Under our Collective Bargaining Agreement, the League retains sole discretion to determine whether it is appropriate to conduct a Supplemental Draft in any given year. The League has not conducted such a draft for several years..." So... the draft was not canceled... the league as it has done most years, decided not to have one this year. Edited June 23 by Sierra Foothills Quote
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