Top 2027 QB Brendan Sorsby cited for Gambling

[DCofNC]

Ehh, throw a 5th rounder on him in the supplemental draft, see if we can get a talented back up on the cheap and flip him for picks later.  How’s THAT for a gamble?

[BarleyNY]

16 hours ago, Pete said:

MJs reckless gambling habits are legendary.  I’m not privy to his financials.  But to demonstrate that having massive amounts of money does not make you immune to losing it to gambling, here are a couple examples

During his NBA career, towering center Manute Bol developed a significant habit for casino gambling. Bol lost the several million dollars he earned playing in the pros largely due to this lifestyle, combined with heavy spending on children's charities and funding Sudanese causes. [1, 2, 3]

Key Highlights of his Gambling History:

Craps at the Casino: Bol was known for making large wagers, such as dropping $500 chips at craps tables in Atlantic City casinos.

Financial Struggles: His substantial gambling habit contributed to him quickly losing the money he earned in the NBA.

Casino Lawsuits: His casino debts became highly publicized, leading to legal actions such as a judgment filed by Harrah's Casino Hotel in Atlantic City to collect unpaid markers from his gambling sprees.

Wife's Win: Even when his wife won $500,000 on a slot machine, the funds were reportedly soon lost to gambling

 

 

Antoine Walker lost over $110 million and declared bankruptcy following his 13-year NBA career due to a mix of heavy gambling losses, the 2008 real estate recession, and an expensive lifestyle. Gambling played a major role in his financial downfall, notably culminating in a $1 million gambling debt to Las Vegas casinos

Phil Mickelson is estimated to have made over $1B in bets over three decades. His losses on those bets are close to $100M. His wife only stayed with him after an agreement where they now split his winnings 50-50 and each have complete control over their half. To me this is absolutely insane. 

Edited June 17 by BarleyNY

[reddogblitz]

On 4/27/2026 at 10:22 AM, thenorthremembers said:

Was he of legal age when he bet?   Did he bet against his own team?   If not let the kid be.  NCAA going after this kid while putting tons of fanduel adds all over their games is the definition of hypocrisy.

 

They're gonna have to start letting the players bet.  Otherwise there won't be anybody to play.

[Sierra Foothills]

57 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

If we’re talking addiction tragedies, my sex addiction wore my wiener down to a nub. 

 

Are there any signs of regeneration?

 

54 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Ehh, throw a 5th rounder on him in the supplemental draft, see if we can get a talented back up on the cheap and flip him for picks later.  How’s THAT for a gamble?

 

 

I dunno... what if... 

 

32 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Phil Mickelson is estimated to have made over $1B in bets over three decades. His losses on those bets are close to $100M. His wife only stayed with him after an agreement where they now split his winnings 50-50 and each having complete control over their half. To me this is absolutely insane. 

 

And that's just one aspect of Phil's sterling personality.

 

[Richard Noggin]

5 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Do I think MJ had a bit of a issue? Sure. 

 

"A bit of an issue."

 

🤌 

[Sierra Foothills]

Apparently while Sorsby has applied for the supplemental draft, the NFL hasn't actually accepted his application for the supplemental draft.

 

"If the NFL decides not to accept Sorsby into the supplemental draft, the NFLPA will have no standing to challenge the move. If, alternatively, he’s suspended after he is drafted, the NFLPA can mobilize with a formal grievance.

Fifteen years ago, the NFL suspended quarterback Terrelle Pryor after the Raiders made him a third-round pick in the 2011 supplemental draft. The NFLPA filed a grievance, and the ruling was upheld... Either way, the next big question is whether the NFL will, or won’t, grant Sorsby admission into the supplemental draft. The only plausible argument against admission is that he knew or should have known he had lost his NCAA eligibility due to his gambling activities, and that he should have applied for the 2026 regular draft."

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brendan-sorsby-wont-have-union-protection-until-he-signs-a-contract-or-is-drafted

 

[Sierra Foothills]

Also relevant to the Sorsby situation... the Kayshon Boutte precedent:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kayshon-boutte-precedent-could-help-brendan-sorsby-avoid-a-suspension

 

Earlier this year, Boutte wrote an article for the Players’ Tribune regarding his gambling addiction while in college.

 

“I’d wake up early in the morning, and the first thing I’d do was bet,” Boutte wrote. “I’d stay up late and bet. All day. All night. I had insomnia, so if I woke up in the middle of the night, phone next to the bed, I’d bet. Any little money I had, it was going straight to FanDuel. . . . I knew I was addicted.” 

Boutte said he started gambling after suffering an injury at LSU that left him unable to play. Betting was his way of replacing the sense of competition. 

He made more than 8,900 bets, with at least six bets placed on LSU. The wagering continued until at least one week after Boutte was drafted in 2023. (Boutte didn’t turn 21 until May 7, 2023.)

None of that came to light until after Boutte’s rookie season with the Patriots, when he was charged with underage betting in Louisiana. The charges were later dismissed. Most importantly, the NFL took no action against Boutte.

Of course, Boutte had completed a full season in the NFL by the time the story broke of his underage betting habits. If the league had suspended him then, the league would have been drawing more attention to the fact that Boutte’s behavior had slipped through the cracks at a time when the NFL could have, in theory, known about his betting issues."

 

[Mr. WEO]

15 hours ago, Pete said:

I’ve seen read this multiple places. Much higher suicide rates in gambling addiction.  And a better Heroin recovery rate than a Gambling addiction.

 

opinions are mixed on which addiction is worse, but users consistently agree that both ruin lives in different ways. Heroin is often viewed as physically more dangerous. Gambling is widely described as a "silent killer" that causes extreme financial ruin and higher suicide rates. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Users on Reddit point out these key differences between the two:

Heroin Addiction

Physical Damage: Heroin destroys physical health, carries risks of overdose, and leads to severe physical withdrawal symptoms.

Visible Decline: The physical signs are usually easy to spot, which often prompts friends or family to intervene.

Higher suicide rates in Gambling addictions and a worse recovery rate.

 

Read about Art Schlichter.  I’d rather be a Heroin addict then live his life

 

Why are you comparing suicide rates?  Opioid addicts die by unintentionally overdosing, not by suicide.  The numbers annually are decreasing but opioid numbers were 50,000+ last year--same as all death by suicide, of which a fraction would be gambling addicts.  Initial recovery rates are 50-80% for gambling, 30-50% for opioid use disorders.  Both have high relapse rates. 

 

No one is disputing the severity of uncontrolled gambling addiction, but you weren't answering the question I asked.  Also, as awful as Schlichter's addiction is, if he was as bad a heroin addict, he likely would have died years ago, not alive to write  book about it.

17 hours ago, Pecos Bills said:

Not really: Mahomes was sub-.500 as a starter for TT, he just put up a ton of stats under Kingsbury.  They were much better over Mike Leach's tenure there.

 

Good point about Leach. Mahomes had everyone's attention on TT though as well.  Either way, TT wasn't a backwater program until a few years ago, as another poster claimed.

[Pete]

15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There’s a difference between Michael Jordan’s addiction and regular people. Michael Jordan’s current net worth is $4.3B. He is one of the 1,000 richest people on earth. We aren’t taking $500 chip rich. 
 

When the NBA all-star game came to New Orleans in 2008, Harrah’s was insane. They actually had to close the entrance for capacity. Charles Barkley says he lost over $1M that weekend. One of the Hornets VIPs walked into the high roller room Sunday Morning. There was a man sitting at the blackjack table playing hands at a time. $10K a hand. He was drinking coffee and watching Sportscenter. He wasn’t even attention. He lost about $200 in a half hour according to this guy that joined hthhikttt a the table. It was Jordan. 

I had an overnight job at Mohegan at employee break restaurant- and I would hear all of the goings on.  I’d talk to head of operations, head of security, dealers, cocktail waitress in high rollers lounges, coordinators, etc.

 

Two things I remember being told-

 

Bruno Mars was paid $5million to perform at Mohegan and lost it all gambling.

 

Jennifer Lopez sent back the Baby Crib 3 times.

 

 

 

 

 

[Pete]

I also went to Dealers School at Mohegan.

 

We were taught how to play strategic Blackjack.  We were taught best odds when to stay and when to hit.

 

We practiced dealing to the other dealers, and we could have as big a stack of money as we want.  So everyone started with a huge stack of chips.  
 

Big stack of chips and being trained proper Blackjack- how did we do?

 

Every day, most everyone lost everything.  It was rare that one of us won for the day.  1 in 5 I’m guessing.  My takeaway was don’t play black jack 

Edited June 17 by Pete

[gonzo1105]

To get back on track, I think it won’t be the Browns, Jets etc that get him. 
 

I think teams like Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis would be the more likelier teams to select him if he enters. These teams will be competitive and won’t have a high 2027 draft pick that might feel inclined to get a guy a year earlier in their system that they might not get through the traditional way next year 

[BarleyNY]

51 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

To get back on track, I think it won’t be the Browns, Jets etc that get him. 
 

I think teams like Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis would be the more likelier teams to select him if he enters. These teams will be competitive and won’t have a high 2027 draft pick that might feel inclined to get a guy a year earlier in their system that they might not get through the traditional way next year 

I think this is correct. But it only takes one team/owner/GM/HC to pull the trigger. I expect the NFL and Sorsby to come to an agreement rather than litigate his entry. That’s important info for some teams to consider.

 

As for Cleveland, I don’t think they’re in play. Should they finish near the top of the draft, Manning is the plan. Haslam is tight with the family through his U of Tennessee connection. I have heard that he’d be willing to cede a tremendous amount of control to the family - including choice of coaches and GM - to entice them to engineer Arch’s way to the Browns Eli-style. 

[DrBob806]

17 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

 

 

 

Imagine being him for even one day. After his fathers death he wanted to get back to just enjoying sports and not being Michael Jordan. It's not anymore complicated than that.  He did it because he could. 

 

 

https://www.wral.com/archive/20237854/

 

While this doesn't necessarily prove anything, it's extremely suspicious they found MJ's car vandalized, and the family didn't report he was missing for 3 weeks. 

 

It's certainly more complicated than you believe. 

[Mikie2times]

3 hours ago, DrBob806 said:

https://www.wral.com/archive/20237854/

 

While this doesn't necessarily prove anything, it's extremely suspicious they found MJ's car vandalized, and the family didn't report he was missing for 3 weeks. 

 

It's certainly more complicated than you believe. 

That was his dads car, MJ bought it for him. His dad was robbed. It's not a shocking revelation that robbers would REALLY rob him. 

Edited June 17 by Mikie2times

[Sierra Foothills]

Brendan Sorsby's agent:

 

"26 NFL teams have reached out"

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brendan-sorsbys-agent-says-26-nfl-teams-have-reached-out-since-monday

 

[Pete]

8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Why are you comparing suicide rates?  Opioid addicts die by unintentionally overdosing, not by suicide.  The numbers annually are decreasing but opioid numbers were 50,000+ last year--same as all death by suicide, of which a fraction would be gambling addicts.  Initial recovery rates are 50-80% for gambling, 30-50% for opioid use disorders.  Both have high relapse rates. 

 

No one is disputing the severity of uncontrolled gambling addiction, but you weren't answering the question I asked.  Also, as awful as Schlichter's addiction is, if he was as bad a heroin addict, he likely would have died years ago, not alive to write  book about it.

 

Good point about Leach. Mahomes had everyone's attention on TT though as well.  Either way, TT wasn't a backwater program until a few years ago, as another poster claimed.

Because Gambling addicts are depressed from losing over and over again.  They steal from girlfriend, they steal from family, they work hard all day, then go to the casino and lose it, get no sleep, and do it again.

 

Then are overcome with guilt, remorse, and depression, and 

Then are consciously making the decision to take their own life, so they don’t have to deal with their hell existence.

 

A heroin addict is not committing suicide by choice, they are chasing the dragon.  They are concerned with getting high again.  If they OD- it’s not suicide, it’s because they got high, and got unlucky.  

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

Because Gambling addicts are depressed from losing over and over again.  They steal from girlfriend, they steal from family, they work hard all day, then go to the casino and lose it, get no sleep, and do it again.

 

Then are overcome with guilt, remorse, and depression, and 

Then are consciously making the decision to take their own life, so they don’t have to deal with their hell existence.

 

A heroin addict is not committing suicide by choice, they are chasing the dragon.  They are concerned with getting high again.  If they OD- it’s not suicide, it’s because they got high, and got unlucky.  

 

 

You keep repeating this and though anyone is arguing all of that is not true.  

 

Your original claim is just not true--opioid addiction (a physical addiction) is far more lethal than gambling addiction and it's not even close.  The vast majority of gamblers do so very safely.  There is no safe use of heroin, plain and simple...

[WotAGuy]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

You keep repeating this and though anyone is arguing all of that is not true.  

 

Your original claim is just not true--opioid addiction (a physical addiction) is far more lethal than gambling addiction and it's not even close.  The vast majority of gamblers do so very safely.  There is no safe use of heroin, plain and simple...

Pete - admit you’re a gambling addict.  
Weo - admit you’re a heroin addict.

Let’s all move on. 
 

[Richard Noggin]

2 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

Pete - admit you’re a gambling addict.  
Weo - admit you’re a heroin addict.

Let’s all move on. 
 

 

Was going to post something snarky about how much fun we're having in this thread. Thanks for doing it better, and sooner.

[BuffaloBillyG]

I'm so thankful for Josh Allen. I remember a time not too far ago where we would have a sizable portion of posters yelling we should take him and take him high in a supplement draft. 

 

I know it likely wouldn't win, but I'd still toss a supplemental 7th for him just on the off chance he can overcome his issues and be a valuable trade piece in the near future.