Mr. WEO Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Pete said: Gambling addiction is the worst. Literally you are better off being a heroin addict What?? How many people die a month from gambling addiction? 34 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that the “Texas Tech” part of this is an interesting sub-plot. They’ve VERY quickly went from an irrelevant little program in Lubbock, TX to the villains of college football in like 2 years. Changes were destined to happen with NIL and the portal. It was bound to become the Wild West and they were in the middle of it. Cody Campbell, with his money and power, is driving so much of what is going on around college football. The Sorsby case is interesting to begin with. It’s way more interesting that he was set to be the QB of THAT particular team. They had a good run '15-16 with Mahomes. 2 1 Quote
Pecos Bills Posted June 16 Posted June 16 32 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They had a good run '15-16 with Mahomes. Not really: Mahomes was sub-.500 as a starter for TT, he just put up a ton of stats under Kingsbury. They were much better over Mike Leach's tenure there. Quote
That's No Moon Posted June 16 Posted June 16 49 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What?? How many people die a month from gambling addiction? A lot, except it doesn't get called that. They die from suicide after running their finances into an unescapable abyss and ruining personal relationships with friends and family that they steal from and otherwise take advantage of. They die from other horrendous life choices that go along with that including other concurrent addictions. But it doesn't go in the book as death by gambling. 4 3 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted June 16 Posted June 16 2 hours ago, Pete said: Gambling addiction is the worst. Literally you are better off being a heroin addict I mean... no. 2 2 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that the “Texas Tech” part of this is an interesting sub-plot. They’ve VERY quickly went from an irrelevant little program in Lubbock, TX to the villains of college football in like 2 years. Changes were destined to happen with NIL and the portal. It was bound to become the Wild West and they were in the middle of it. Cody Campbell, with his money and power, is driving so much of what is going on around college football. The Sorsby case is interesting to begin with. It’s way more interesting that he was set to be the QB of THAT particular team. 2 years? More like 2 months! They speedran it! LSU were the reigning Bad Guys of college football for the last 7 months and working hard at staying there. Then TT came in and said "hold my beer" over some mid-level QB who hadnt played a single down for them. Plus that idiot Paxton getting involved with his dumb lawsuit threat that was so dumb he accidentally saved college football by forcing TT to defend themselves in court or give up, and they chose to give up. what a clusterfu... 1 Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted June 16 Posted June 16 4 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: I don't see someone taking him that high. Especially at a position like QB. Who was the WR that got suspended for a year? Imagine if thats your franchise QB, or even your backup. Hard to rely on that guy when he has already placed over 9000 bets, including on his own team. Hes a good enough prospect to get drafted. Somebody thinks they can use him. But if goes before the 4th, I'll be shocked Calvin Ridley He was on a leave of absence from the Falcons and placed ~$1,500 in bets that included parlays on his team. 1 Quote
947 Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Apparently Sorsby's NIL contract with Texas Tech only stipulated that he sign with them, he gets to keep all that money. 1 2 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 16 Posted June 16 46 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: A lot, except it doesn't get called that. They die from suicide after running their finances into an unescapable abyss and ruining personal relationships with friends and family that they steal from and otherwise take advantage of. They die from other horrendous life choices that go along with that including other concurrent addictions. But it doesn't go in the book as death by gambling. Don't forget broken fingers, limbs, and miscellaneous hits doled out by Paulie Walnuts and Christopher Moltisanti (if they don't screw up the hit.) Quote
Ayjent Posted June 16 Posted June 16 5 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: The workaround for public disclosure of bets is that the athletes who bet would have proxies place the bets for them. Or you know...don't bet as an athlete or a member of a league that is trying to at least look somewhat legitimate. I understand that they are not outside of the influence of providing windfalls to the books, and there is very little doubt that the Bills loss to the Broncos wasn't one of the best cases in point. I mean...its all a fiction at the end of the day with these sports entertainment leagues, but there is something a little more sinister about having all of the corruption wide open without giving a $#!+. Too each their own. 1 Quote
Pete Posted June 16 Posted June 16 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: What?? How many people die a month from gambling addiction? I’ve seen read this multiple places. Much higher suicide rates in gambling addiction. And a better Heroin recovery rate than a Gambling addiction. opinions are mixed on which addiction is worse, but users consistently agree that both ruin lives in different ways. Heroin is often viewed as physically more dangerous. Gambling is widely described as a "silent killer" that causes extreme financial ruin and higher suicide rates. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Users on Reddit point out these key differences between the two: Heroin Addiction Physical Damage: Heroin destroys physical health, carries risks of overdose, and leads to severe physical withdrawal symptoms. Visible Decline: The physical signs are usually easy to spot, which often prompts friends or family to intervene. 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I mean... no. Higher suicide rates in Gambling addictions and a worse recovery rate. Read about Art Schlichter. I’d rather be a Heroin addict then live his life 1 1 Quote
Pete Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Might I add, I worked at a Casino for over 10 years. Casinos can be fun, but overall they are a very sad place to be. I’ve seen some of the worst gambling addicts, and that addiction is a MONSTER! I could tell you sad story after sad story. I’ve had plenty of friends OD. Both are extremely tragic. Read about Michael Jordan. He was a bad gambling addict that supposedly gambled away most of his earnings. It is said that a gambling debt got his Father killed. 2 1 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted June 16 Posted June 16 24 minutes ago, Pete said: Might I add, I worked at a Casino for over 10 years. Casinos can be fun, but overall they are a very sad place to be. I’ve seen some of the worst gambling addicts, and that addiction is a MONSTER! I could tell you sad story after sad story. I’ve had plenty of friends OD. Both are extremely tragic. Read about Michael Jordan. He was a bad gambling addict that supposedly gambled away most of his earnings. It is said that a gambling debt got his Father killed. Gambling addiction is not fun, but the MJ call out just isn't accurate. The guy is worth over 4 billion dollars. Two teenagers were convicted of killing his dad. Completely unrelated to anything MJ did. Not even a faint connection. Do I think MJ had a bit of a issue? Sure. But it didn't make him go broke or impact his father. No evidence even remotely suggests that. 1 1 1 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) Another example of the maturation of the human brain, generally full adult reasoning doesn’t happen until 28 years or more, sometimes never, lol its just a matter of time for this type of thing happening in the NFL, On 4/27/2026 at 1:42 PM, DrDawkinstein said: Shut all this Sports Betting crap down. It's only speeding up this country's drain circling. Kid is dumb for signing onto any app at this point. Sadly greed will never allow this, Edited June 16 by Don Otreply 1 Quote
Pete Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Gambling addiction is not fun, but the MJ call out just isn't accurate. The guy is worth over 4 billion dollars. Two teenagers were convicted of killing his dad. Completely unrelated to anything MJ did. Not even a faint connection. Do I think MJ had a bit of an issue? Sure. But it didn't make him go broke or impact his father. No evidence even remotely suggests that. MJs reckless gambling habits are legendary. I’m not privy to his financials. But to demonstrate that having massive amounts of money does not make you immune to losing it to gambling, here are a couple examples During his NBA career, towering center Manute Bol developed a significant habit for casino gambling. Bol lost the several million dollars he earned playing in the pros largely due to this lifestyle, combined with heavy spending on children's charities and funding Sudanese causes. [1, 2, 3] Key Highlights of his Gambling History: Craps at the Casino: Bol was known for making large wagers, such as dropping $500 chips at craps tables in Atlantic City casinos. Financial Struggles: His substantial gambling habit contributed to him quickly losing the money he earned in the NBA. Casino Lawsuits: His casino debts became highly publicized, leading to legal actions such as a judgment filed by Harrah's Casino Hotel in Atlantic City to collect unpaid markers from his gambling sprees. Wife's Win: Even when his wife won $500,000 on a slot machine, the funds were reportedly soon lost to gambling Antoine Walker lost over $110 million and declared bankruptcy following his 13-year NBA career due to a mix of heavy gambling losses, the 2008 real estate recession, and an expensive lifestyle. Gambling played a major role in his financial downfall, notably culminating in a $1 million gambling debt to Las Vegas casinos Edited June 16 by Pete 3 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) 16 hours ago, Pete said: MJs reckless gambling habits are legendary. I’m not privy to his financials. But to demonstrate that having massive amounts of money does not make you immune to losing it to gambling, here are a couple examples During his NBA career, towering center Manute Bol developed a significant habit for casino gambling. Bol lost the several million dollars he earned playing in the pros largely due to this lifestyle, combined with heavy spending on children's charities and funding Sudanese causes. [1, 2, 3] Key Highlights of his Gambling History: Craps at the Casino: Bol was known for making large wagers, such as dropping $500 chips at craps tables in Atlantic City casinos. Financial Struggles: His substantial gambling habit contributed to him quickly losing the money he earned in the NBA. Casino Lawsuits: His casino debts became highly publicized, leading to legal actions such as a judgment filed by Harrah's Casino Hotel in Atlantic City to collect unpaid markers from his gambling sprees. Wife's Win: Even when his wife won $500,000 on a slot machine, the funds were reportedly soon lost to gambling Antoine Walker lost over $110 million and declared bankruptcy following his 13-year NBA career due to a mix of heavy gambling losses, the 2008 real estate recession, and an expensive lifestyle. Gambling played a major role in his financial downfall, notably culminating in a $1 million gambling debt to Las Vegas casinos There’s a difference between Michael Jordan’s addiction and regular people. Michael Jordan’s current net worth is $4.3B. He is one of the 1,000 richest people on earth. We aren’t taking $500 chip rich. When the NBA all-star game came to New Orleans in 2008, Harrah’s was insane. They actually had to close the entrance for capacity. Charles Barkley says he lost over $1M that weekend. One of the Hornets VIPs walked into the high roller room Sunday Morning. There was a man sitting at the blackjack table playing 3 hands at a time. $10K a hand. He was drinking coffee and watching Sportscenter. He wasn’t even attention. He lost about $200k in a half hour according to this guy that joined him at a the table. It was Jordan. Edited June 17 by Kirby Jackson 1 Quote
DrBob806 Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Mikie2times said: Gambling addiction is not fun, but the MJ call out just isn't accurate. The guy is worth over 4 billion dollars. Two teenagers were convicted of killing his dad. Completely unrelated to anything MJ did. Not even a faint connection. Do I think MJ had a bit of a issue? Sure. But it didn't make him go broke or impact his father. No evidence even remotely suggests that. I don't know about that. Why would a world class basketball player suddenly go play baseball? I think the NBA was scared all this would come out, nudged him to leave. People can have short memories, it's what the NBA banked on, and it worked. 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Pete said: MJs reckless gambling habits are legendary. I’m not privy to his financials. But to demonstrate that having massive amounts of money does not make you immune to losing it to gambling, here are a couple examples During his NBA career, towering center Manute Bol developed a significant habit for casino gambling. Bol lost the several million dollars he earned playing in the pros largely due to this lifestyle, combined with heavy spending on children's charities and funding Sudanese causes. [1, 2, 3] Key Highlights of his Gambling History: Craps at the Casino: Bol was known for making large wagers, such as dropping $500 chips at craps tables in Atlantic City casinos. Financial Struggles: His substantial gambling habit contributed to him quickly losing the money he earned in the NBA. Casino Lawsuits: His casino debts became highly publicized, leading to legal actions such as a judgment filed by Harrah's Casino Hotel in Atlantic City to collect unpaid markers from his gambling sprees. Wife's Win: Even when his wife won $500,000 on a slot machine, the funds were reportedly soon lost to gambling Antoine Walker lost over $110 million and declared bankruptcy following his 13-year NBA career due to a mix of heavy gambling losses, the 2008 real estate recession, and an expensive lifestyle. Gambling played a major role in his financial downfall, notably culminating in a $1 million gambling debt to Las Vegas casinos 12 minutes ago, DrBob806 said: I don't know about that. Why would a world class basketball player suddenly go play baseball? I think the NBA was scared all this would come out, nudged him to leave. People can have short memories, it's what the NBA banked on, and it worked. You said he supposedly gambled all his career earnings away, which is a laughable statement, backed up by no evidence. That is what I was challenging. He is a known gambler. You have a valid case about how bad gambling is. You don't need to make things up to try and strengthen your point. Imagine being him for even one day. After his fathers death he wanted to get back to just enjoying sports and not being Michael Jordan. It's not anymore complicated than that. He did it because he could. 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted June 16 Posted June 16 2 hours ago, Pete said: Might I add, I worked at a Casino for over 10 years. Casinos can be fun, but overall they are a very sad place to be. I’ve seen some of the worst gambling addicts, and that addiction is a MONSTER! I could tell you sad story after sad story. I’ve had plenty of friends OD. Both are extremely tragic. Gambling addiction absolutely destroys lives and entire families, and often leads to other vices as the addict spirals down. I have many family members and close friends whose lives have been laid to waste due to this addiction. I don't F with gambling at all. When I'm in Vegas I don't bet a single penny. 1 2 Quote
WotAGuy Posted June 17 Posted June 17 If we’re talking addiction tragedies, my sex addiction wore my wiener down to a nub. 4 Quote
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