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If he gets it together he can legit be in our top 3 , especially as a deep threat.  

 

Excellent talent.  Hope he turns it around and takes advantage of a great 2nd chance 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Brand J said:

Dunno about NFL, but Dennis Rodman is the player I think of who started his career as an absolute headcase and finished it as a (less volatile) player the team could count on - Vegas trip notwithstanding. The crazy probably doesn’t completely go away with these types. 

 

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Cris Carter was once on the brink of being a never was and then got his life together.  
 

No risk here - he shows he’s ready to grow up and play or he is an easy cut.  

 

I can't agree with Rodman.  He was defensive player of the year and all NBA with the Pistons.  He only started getting into trouble only when Chuck Daly left.  Cris Carter is probably a better example.

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9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

McDermott would never

He’s a worse version of Keon off the field but a better version on it

Really unfair to suggest any comparison with Keon off the field vs this guy.. he’s been late immature fine.. but please Burton has been tremendous dreadful as a human. Keon does not deserve this at all! 

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13 hours ago, sven233 said:

I mean, there is literally 0 risk here.  He either shows up, proves that he has matured and can play, or he doesn't show up, does something stupid, and is cut immediately.

 

Look, I am all for a redemption story here because the kid is talented.  But I'm not gonna lie.....I don't expect it to work out.  HOWEVER, whether it does or doesn't, I like that the organization seems to be open minded about taking a swing on some character concern guys with talent.  Keep taking them because you never know when one may work out.

The key is milking their talent for the first contract and then letting them become someone else’s problem for a 2-5 round pick. 

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6 hours ago, Kelly No huddle said:

If he gets it together he can legit be in our top 3 , especially as a deep threat.  

 

Excellent talent.  Hope he turns it around and takes advantage of a great 2nd chance 

 

 

 

I mean, I think his ceiling on this team is even higher than that.  Given Moore's age decline and everyone else having meh talent, Burton could even be our best receiver IF he got his head on straight and started being a diligent professional.  But what are the odds of that?

 

Let Rafael Nadal explain

 

 

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Terrible.  Absolutely no reason to voluntarily do something this stupid.  
 

 

5 hours ago, Billy Claude said:

 

 

I can't agree with Rodman.  He was defensive player of the year and all NBA with the Pistons.  He only started getting into trouble only when Chuck Daly left.  Cris Carter is probably a better example.

Chris Carter just liked cocaine and partying if i remember correctly.  That is a fixable issue with help and maturity.

 

choking women is not.  Why these teams do not take a zero tolerance policy on assault of women i will never understand.

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22 minutes ago, harryS said:

 

I mean, I think his ceiling on this team is even higher than that.  Given Moore's age decline and everyone else having meh talent, Burton could even be our best receiver IF he got his head on straight and started being a diligent professional.  But what are the odds of that?

 

Let Rafael Nadal explain

 

 

 

We honestly don't know. 

 

Josh Gordon,  Antonio brown,  Pickens etc

 

Randy moss completely destroyed his reputation to the point the pats traded a 4th for him.

 

He then went on to have the greatest wr season I've ever seen. 

 

Do I think burton has #1 wr talent? Absolutely.  But hes gotta earn everything.  

 

 

Here's what I do know , the wr room is improved dramatically with Moore, Bell , a healthy Palmer and Burton as a lottery ticket 

 

 

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9 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

He was a projected first rounder talent wise, said by many to be a top 30 guy. Word is many teams took him off their boards because of character issues. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Bills did. Bengals didn’t and regret it having risked and wasted a third. Do you think any of those other teams would now invite him to their mini camp? If there is no risk and only upside why wouldn’t they? 

I do think some would -sure. The Bills did. Everyone’s situation is different. The Bills are a win now team with a strong locker room and a hole at WR (albeit not as big of a hole as 2025). They can take a look at the player, spend a little time with him and see if they’re comfortable with a camp invite. A team like the Rams could do the same thing. It might not be a good idea for a young Raiders team. Everyone is different though. 
 

if you spend some time with him and still have concerns, you don’t sign him. @NoSaint said it perfectly, “you’re picking up lottery tickets off the ground and checking to see if they’re winners.” You’d be doing yourself a disservice if you didn’t. 

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15 hours ago, PirateHookerMD said:

sounds about right

 

 

Chad Kelly 2.0    

Amazing how stupid these guys are. There are men whose dream would be to secure an NFL roster spot, and these talented dumbasses piss away that fleeting opportunity because they can't grow up.

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11 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

So sure it’s not a risk “right now” as you say when he’s competing with fringe players for a roster spot at the bottom of the order. Thats an easy call. But thats not the only factual situation that needs to be considered. What if he winds up a valued #2, which is probably more in keeping with his ability and what you would want ideally if you are going to have anything to do with him in the first place? Would you want the risk of his blowing up in the middle of a championship run? This guy is a much worse head case than Diggs.

There are enuf wideouts out there who can play and who are not crazy - assuming you know how to scout and draft them. Of course if you don't maybe you have no choice but to go that route. I don't see it as a solution to the problem.

Having said that clearly every case has to be evaluated individually. You can probably get comfortable with some players - but not with others. This is not a guy I would trust or commit resources to.

What if?  We all know he is not likely to be a valued #2, it is not like NFL GMs and coaches are knuckleheads, they go into these types of experiments fully aware that this guy has a minuscule chance of being anything more than a #4 or 5 guy this season, and that’s if everything goes perfectly, yes the kid is certainly an idiot, he has proven himself to be just that, but kicking the tires on marginal guys happens every season in the NFL, look at all the wife beaters in the league, some of the NFLs biggest stars are scum of the earth, this is really no big deal, the other guys you speak of are likely less talented and cost more, there is virtually no down side to finding out if he can be used as a lower tier guy , 

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2 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Terrible.  Absolutely no reason to voluntarily do something this stupid.  
 

 

Chris Carter just liked cocaine and partying if i remember correctly.  That is a fixable issue with help and maturity.

 

choking women is not.  Why these teams do not take a zero tolerance policy on assault of women i will never understand.


I certainly understand this sentiment.

 

Im not justifying this behavior at all and would have zero issue if a team instituted a zero tolerance policy like you state.

 

I think the reason you don’t see that is that ownership/management see what happens in the daily lives of their players and some of these women are vile.  When it comes to athletes and money, if you’ve never been around it, you’d never understand the world they are in and the type of people/women it attracts. 
 

Some of the stories I’ve heard.. unreal. 

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This reminds me of the Quinton Cephus signing two years ago, where there was a bit of "maybe he can figure it out" upside chatter on the board, but he ended up as one of the first cuts in a very mediocre group of receivers going for a roster spot. That is the most likely outcome this time around, but is still a nice low risk addition. I look at Burton like i would an additional 7th round pick or UDFA with a little more upside. 

 

 

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“The problem is, and I’ll be blunt here, he’s immature F’ing moron and has been for quite awhile” 🙄that’s a glowing endorsement.” Dude sounds like a locker room pariah!  

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44 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

This reminds me of the Quinton Cephus signing two years ago, where there was a bit of "maybe he can figure it out" upside chatter on the board, but he ended up as one of the first cuts in a very mediocre group of receivers going for a roster spot. That is the most likely outcome this time around, but is still a nice low risk addition. I look at Burton like i would an additional 7th round pick or UDFA with a little more upside. 

 

 


The difference with Burton is he has RD1 WR talent.  That was evident coming out of college.  
 

Cephus was nowhere close to this. 
 

No idea if Burton has fixed himself because I’m pretty sure there was a scout who said he was the worst person he’s ever met.. and then he proceeded to be a disaster in CIN. 

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28 minutes ago, Mod_Squad_Reject said:

“The problem is, and I’ll be blunt here, he’s immature F’ing moron and has been for quite awhile” 🙄that’s a glowing endorsement.” Dude sounds like a locker room pariah!  

Certainly an idiot but it’s tough to be a pariah as guy number 90 on a 90 man roster. He has no juice. When Diggs was an idiot (albeit a smaller idiot than Burton) he was a star. He was coming off the greatest receiving stretch in franchise history. The Bills dumped him. Burton is like Claypool or Cephus as @dgrochester55 wisely pointed out. This isn’t like bringing in Pickens who would definitely be a crucial of your offense.

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