WR Jermaine Burton to Bills Mini Camp

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

imagine we’ll know fairly quickly how it’s going. He would be signed and brought to training camp.  If by some chance it works out, perhaps we move Palmer

 

That's risky as likely will be on best behavior for some period of time.  You'd always be waiting for something to happen.

[pennstate10]

4 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

I don't see this guy as a no risk proposition. In fact I see him as a big risk. Why? Because he’s talented. He has a mini camp invite because he’s talented. If he gets to attend camp its because he is talented. If he earns a roster spot it’s because he is talented. 

Thing is with guys like him it’s usually only a matter of time before they f’up again. The last thing you want is for it to happen after you have made the investment and managed your roster such that he’s an important piece in your WR room.

I’m all for his rehabilitation. I like to see people succeed. Just sayin he is not a risk I would be willing to take. Feel the same way about Pickens, whose talent is awesome. He is an even bigger risk because he is about to be paid.

 

Agreed, he’s not no risk because he could crash out at any moment, including the worst possible moment. 
 

Also agree on Pickens being higher risk. 
 

Only thing worse than an idiot teammate is an idiot teammate with money. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

17 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

before the 2024 draft:
 

“9. Jermaine Burton –  I don’t know if he’s off of a lot teams boards due to character issues but the dude is a very good WR. You can see his anger when he plays during the play, making the play/catch but the problem is it keeps going after the play is over. If he can channel it all to just during the play then watch out because dude attacks the football. Very quick and twitchy. He pushes off too often and doesn’t need to because he gets good separation naturally. He plays faster than his 4.45 40 time on the deep routes. I really like him as a vertical threat and if he can develop more of a route tree and clean up whatever character issues he has then he could be a steal in this draft.”

Sounds like you were correct about the character issues.

[NeverOutNick]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

imagine we’ll know fairly quickly how it’s going. He would be signed and brought to training camp.  If by some chance it works out, perhaps we move Palmer

I’d be about that. We need playmakers and dude is definitely that. You’ve got Moore, Shakir and the rookie, after that everyone else is fair game to be cut or make the final 2-3 spots imo

1 minute ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Sounds like you were correct about the character issues.

Still worth the chance. We need his vertical game. He’s a monster. 

[wppete]

I troubled guy but very talented . Maybe he gets serious as this could be his last chance. 

[BillsFan130]

21 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

before the 2024 draft:
 

“9. Jermaine Burton –  I don’t know if he’s off of a lot teams boards due to character issues but the dude is a very good WR. You can see his anger when he plays during the play, making the play/catch but the problem is it keeps going after the play is over. If he can channel it all to just during the play then watch out because dude attacks the football. Very quick and twitchy. He pushes off too often and doesn’t need to because he gets good separation naturally. He plays faster than his 4.45 40 time on the deep routes. I really like him as a vertical threat and if he can develop more of a route tree and clean up whatever character issues he has then he could be a steal in this draft.”

You give awesome draft analysis on receivers buddy.

 

Do you study other positions also in the draft process , or more just focus on the receiver group?

[NoSaint]

28 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Dude has so much attitude on the field absolutely loved him coming out. Hopefully he can figure out how to lock in.

He and cjgj will battle if he makes it to camp

[YoloinOhio]

24 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

I don't see this guy as a no risk proposition. In fact I see him as a big risk. Why? Because he’s talented. He has a mini camp invite because he’s talented. If he gets to attend camp its because he is talented. If he earns a roster spot it’s because he is talented. 

Thing is with guys like him it’s usually only a matter of time before they f’up again. The last thing you want is for it to happen after you have made the investment and managed your roster such that he’s an important piece in your WR room.

I’m all for his rehabilitation. I like to see people succeed. Just sayin he is not a risk I would be willing to take. Feel the same way about Pickens, whose talent is awesome. He is an even bigger risk because he is about to be paid.

 

I see it as one of those risks that other teams take. Like he could catch the winning touchdown in a huge game and then get cut the following week. But it’s like that’s the risk you take? Because sometimes the most talented players have a lot of issues. And, hopefully they can work those out but you get what you can from them while you can. 

Edited April 26 by YoloinOhio

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, CSBill said:

And if he was going to the Chief's camp, we would be roasting them: "Allegedly" broke into a home, choked his girlfriend, hit her, broke her phone--twice, pushed her down a set of stairs, hit a rival fan after a game, and was evicted because he didn't pay his rent and trashed the property.

 

Yeah, sounds like a great guy. I guess he deserves the opportunity to rehab his life and reputation. But if he moves into your neighborhood, be sure your doors are locked.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43349327/bengals-jermaine-burton-allegedly-involved-domestic-dispute

Id be saying it no matter what team it is including the Bills.   That said, people can choose not to make their issues permanent.   Hopefully hes turned his life around.   If he hasn't it will.be see ya later.

[transient]

34 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

if nothing else, they can make an example of him in front of some other borderline guys

Was just thinking this could also be another way of trying to get through to Coleman that he needs to get his sh!t together. This is Coleman's roster spot he's auditioning for.

[NeverOutNick]

21 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

You give awesome draft analysis on receivers buddy.

 

Do you study other positions also in the draft process , or more just focus on the receiver group?

Thanks brother! I’ve done WR and QB a lot over the years and feel really good about my analysis. RBs and DBs are fun and but I don’t do it as often. The rest of the position groups I can spot characteristics that are special but I’m not as locked in. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

Him and Keon are going to be best buddies, skipping meetings while at the casino.

[ChanticleerBillsFan]

Should I be more or less excited as when we got Da’rick Rogers?

[BuffaloBillyG]

This is the kind of zero risk high potential reward that good GMs take. Howie Roseman takes risks on guys like this often. Likey will result in a camp cut...but hey maybe he realizes he's outta chances and can keep it together a year or two. Even if he's signed to camp or makes the 53...he will cost next to nothing. 

 

I like the move. 

[BillsFanForever19]

This is wild.

 

CJGJ was surprising - but he was more of a 'tough to deal with personality' kind of move that we wouldn't have made under McDermott. But he was never a violent person with legal issues.

 

Jermaine Burton IS that kind of person. All the talent in the world. He would have been taken before Coleman and maybe even before Worthy had he not had problems. And then those problems continued, both in the locker room and off the field, when he came to the NFL.

 

Very surprised to see we'd bring him in, even for a tryout.

[Steptide]

Don't know a thing about him. Whatd he do off the field? 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

I don't see this guy as a no risk proposition. In fact I see him as a big risk. Why? Because he’s talented. He has a mini camp invite because he’s talented. If he gets to attend camp its because he is talented. If he earns a roster spot it’s because he is talented. 

Thing is with guys like him it’s usually only a matter of time before they f’up again. The last thing you want is for it to happen after you have made the investment and managed your roster such that he’s an important piece in your WR room.

I’m all for his rehabilitation. I like to see people succeed. Just sayin he is not a risk I would be willing to take. Feel the same way about Pickens, whose talent is awesome. He is an even bigger risk because he is about to be paid.

 

If he crashes out, you cut him. You aren’t building a WR room around him. There’s not a world where he becomes a focal point that can’t be replaced. Right now, he’d be taking Trent Sherfield or Mecole Hardman’s roster spot. If he loses it, you dump him and go pick up whatever “Mecole Hardman type” is sitting out there. It’s a lottery ticket the same way (but different) than Hamler, Isabella, Claypool, etc… were

Edited April 27 by Kirby Jackson

[Billy Claude]

Are there any examples of this type of reclamation projects on a guy with zero previous success in the NFL which actually worked? I'm not counting rookies or people who had already proven they are legitimate NFL players.

Edited April 26 by Billy Claude

[billsfan89]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

McDermott would never

He’s a worse version of Keon off the field but a better version on it

Didn’t they take a guy from the Steelers that was a bit of a head case into camp a few years ago?

25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

If he crashes out, you cut him. You aren’t building a WR room about it. There’s not a world where he becomes a focal point that can’t be replaced. Right now, he’d be taking Trent Sherfield or Mecole Hardman’s roster spot. If he loses it, you dump him and go pick up whatever “Mecole Hardman type” is sitting out there. It’s a lottery ticket the same way (but different) that Hamler, Isabella, Claypool, etc… were

It’s literally the most minimal commitment you can make to a marginal roster spot no big deal.

[MrEpsYtown]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Zero expectations but it would be cool if he suddenly decided to pull his life together.

Yeah I agree. And we have all been through stuff. Everyone deserves a second chance, including football players who pissed opportunities away. He’s going to have to start all the way from the bottom, but let’s see how this goes. If he proves he has his stuff together, even just a practice squad place would be a blessing for him imo.