Jordyn Tyson- would you draft him if he fell to 26?

[NewEra]

He’s such an intriguing prospect.  Ability wise, he’s my WR1 in this draft.  I think he’s head and shoulders above the rest in terms of potential X’s.  To some, the X is our biggest need.  He’s silky smooth.  
 

He’s similar to another silky smooth pass catcher we’re familiar with.  Dalton Kincaid.  We all love him as a pass catcher and can envision a passing game that revolves around him.  Yet, injuries have kept that from coming to fruition.  As good as he is, has he been worth a first round pick?  Surely has not to date imo.  That may very well change but it may not. 

So the discussion here-  would you draft Tyson if he was available at 26.  Of course it’ll depend on who else is available, but we’ll pretend that no other top talents have unexpectedly slipped to us.  His injury concerns are real and we’ve seen crazier things than him slipping to 26
 

Is his talent worth the risk?  Or is the injury concern too much to pull the trigger.  Do we have buyer beware with Kincaid?  I suspect it would be an overwhelming vote to draft him, but would be interesting to see what percentage are that adverse to drafting injury prone players 
 

I would draft him.  I think he’s a pretty special route runner.  I guess I just love the pain of losing players to injury every week.  Definitely seems like a guy that will be plagued by injury.  I think all we’d need is one or two healthy seasons to get us a Super Bowl 

 

Edited April 11 by NewEra

[billsfan89]

I think if Tyson is there the Bills will run to the podium to get him. I think the Bills will also be looking at KC Conception the same way. 

[Dr. Who]

I take the risk, though I can't say I wouldn't be worried about it. Depth is needed at the top of the WR room, not at the level of WR 4 through 6. This will also show commitment to Josh Allen in a way that Beane has neglected in his tenure as GM for the most part. He should do it now, regardless of the always needy defense. 

 

If Tyson is taken early, I would prioritize Cooper and Boston before Concepcion, but none of them should be off the table. 

[transplantbillsfan]

***** yeah I would!!!

 

Talent-wise he essentially looks like a bigger more athletic version of Diggs.

 

He isn't falling to 26. If he falls to the late teens I would trade up to leapfrog Pittsburgh to get him honestly.

 

His injury worries are simultaneously real and overblown. Throw the Collarbone out the window. That one doesn't matter. The torn knee ligaments and hamstring are there. They also could have just been inan unlucky 4 year run.

 

Dane Brugler's Beast bio goes through his HS career with no injuries and over 1500 yards in a full season of starts. Dude was coached by Hines Ward... so you know he's competitive.

 

There's no reason Tyson falls to 26 or even 20... but if he does, draft him.

[NeverOutNick]

42 minutes ago, NewEra said:

He’s such an intriguing prospect.  Ability wise, he’s my WR1 in this draft.  I think he’s head and shoulders above the rest in terms of potential X’s.  To some, the X is our biggest need.  He’s silky smooth.  
 

He’s similar to another silky smooth pass catcher we’re familiar with.  Dalton Kincaid.  We all love him as a pass catcher and can envision a passing game that revolves around him.  Yet, injuries have kept that from coming to fruition.  As good as he is, has he been worth a first round pick?  Surely has not to date imo.  That may very well change but it may not. 

So the discussion here-  would you draft Tyson if he was available at 26.  Of course it’ll depend on who else is available, but we’ll pretend that no other top talents have unexpectedly slipped to us.  His injury concerns are real and we’ve seen crazier things than him slipping to 26
 

Is his talent worth the risk?  Or is the injury concern too much to pull the trigger.  Do we have buyer beware with Kincaid? 
 

I would draft him.  I think he’s a pretty special route runner.  I guess I just love the pain of losing players to injury every week

 

Tate is the clear # 1 in this class. He’s the only real “X” WR who could step in right away and be the best WR on a few teams. This draft doesn’t have a Nabers or Chase but Tate is very good at almost everything outside of being a RAC guy. I’ll go into more detail later with my WR rankings but Tyson is super risky. Yes he’s a freak athlete but he’s not a slam dunk X. He’s more of a movement WR on the line, a Z. Also, for being a guy with so much athleticism he overdoes everything with wasted footwork and over-contorting his body when it’s not needed. Probably a big reason he’s always injured. I like him but I would rather take a more sure thing like KC Concepcion over Tyson’s raw ability with immense upside because the injury concerns (still not over the hamstring) and I’m not sure he’s going to take to the coaching to kill all of his bad habits. 
 

All that being said it would be tempting to take him still at 26 lol

Edited April 11 by NeverOutNick

[NewEra]

17 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Tate is the clear # 1 in this class. He’s the only WR who could step in right away and be the best WR on a few teams. This draft doesn’t have a Nabers or Chase but Tate is very good at almost everything outside of being a RAC guy. I’ll go into more detail later with my WR rankings but Tyson is super risky. Yes he’s a freak athlete but he’s not a slam dunk X. He’s more of a movement WR on the line, a Z. Also, for being a guy with so much athleticism he overdoes everything with wasted footwork and over-contorting his body when it’s not needed. Probably a big reason he’s always injured. I like him but I would rather take a more sure thing like KC Concepcion over Tyson’s raw ability with immense upside because the injury concerns (still not over the hamstring) and I’m not sure he’s going to take to the coaching to kill all of his bad habits. 

I’d rather have Tate, for sure.  Partly for only suffering injury vs Tysons injury concerns, partly due to Tates amazing ability along the sidelines and downfield.  Josh has made some ridiculous sideline throws and Tate would accentuate that ability perfectly.     

 

Many had Tyson as #1 at the end of the season. Tyson hasn’t worked out and is currently plagued with an injury.  It’s crushing his stock imo. And for good reason.  Availability is important.  I just think Tyson is the smoother route runner and a tad more versatile.  But what Tate does well makes him potentially special.  

 

 

 

 

[machine gun kelly]

Well, the 2022/23 injury of a torn ACL, PCL, and MCLis concerning, but he did come back from it and played well.  The clavicle bone break to me is not relevant in 2024, as broken bones once healed is usually stronger after it heals.

 

The one I’m not crazy about this year is the nagging hamstring.  If he’s come back the knee tear, then shouldn’t worry, nor the clavicle, but the hamstring brings me hesitance.  Even saying all of it, I’d grab him at 26 if he drops to us.

 

The safer pick if both there is Concepcion.  That’s why I’ve been in that camp.  In some of the mocks, a trade back with AZ to 34th for Concepcion because they’d have to give us a late rd2 with a swap giving our 6th.  That still allows AZ to get their QB, and we still get after a WR at the top of the 2nd, and an Edge in the 3rd.  An additional wrinkle is trade Coleman for a 4th, and we’d have flexibility for BPA for the rest of the draft.  The talking up of Coleman is fine to counter the horrible presser by Pegula could maybe get us something of value.

 

 

The other positions to keep looking is NT (maybe), S, and a depth OL.

[Kirby Jackson]

100% yes

[Coach Tuesday]

He’s going top 15.

[BuffaloBillyG]

He likely won't be there or anywhere close. But if weird things happen, then yes you take the kid. Talent outweighs the risk IMO. If a miracle happened and he was there at 20, I trade up. 

[Kirby Jackson]

It’s a no brainer IMO. Picking where the Bills always pick, the ONLY way you ever get a shot at that kind of talent is if it’s risky. You’ve always been good at finding solid players. The Bills have been great on day 3 finding quality role players. You haven’t always been great at finding stars. You gamble on guys like this because he CAN be a star. If he didn’t have questions, he’d be off the board 20 picks before your first pick.

[OldTimer1960]

7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

***** yeah I would!!!

 

Talent-wise he essentially looks like a bigger more athletic version of Diggs.

 

He isn't falling to 26. If he falls to the late teens I would trade up to leapfrog Pittsburgh to get him honestly.

 

His injury worries are simultaneously real and overblown. Throw the Collarbone out the window. That one doesn't matter. The torn knee ligaments and hamstring are there. They also could have just been inan unlucky 4 year run.

 

Dane Brugler's Beast bio goes through his HS career with no injuries and over 1500 yards in a full season of starts. Dude was coached by Hines Ward... so you know he's competitive.

 

There's no reason Tyson falls to 26 or even 20... but if he does, draft him.

But he tore 3 ligaments in the same knee.  In this draft, I think the Bills’ one shot at more than a role player/backup is at 26 and they must come away with a decent to good starter there.  A whiff and they might not get any help in this draft.

[Htt2821]

Not sure if people are aware but when Tyson hurt his hamstring originally against Texas Tech, he stayed in the game as it was ASU’s biggest game and win of the season even though it was a really bad injury.

 

The guy is a fighter and great teammate in this day and age of NIL and branding…and he converted a huge 4th down while limping like Kellen Winslow Sr. 

[Free Speech]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s a no brainer IMO. Picking where the Bills always pick, the ONLY way you ever get a shot at that kind of talent is if it’s risky. You’ve always been good at finding solid players. The Bills have been great on day 3 finding quality role players. You haven’t always been great at finding stars. You gamble on guys like this because he CAN be a star. If he didn’t have questions, he’d be off the board 20 picks before your first pick.

Exactly. 

[NewEra]

So far 12% wouldn’t draft him so far.  higher than I thought.  If 12% of the GMs feel the same, there’s a sliiiiight chance that he can slip

[OldTimer1960]

I voted no because of fear of the three torn knee ligaments.  He might be able to stay healthy and be a great player, but then he could tear his knee up again 2 days into camp.

 

I am not a doctor, so I would lean on as many medical opinions as I could get- if they are saying risk is not too bad I might pull the trigger, but it seems to me there is high risk of another serious knee injury.

[Allen2Moulds]

13 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

***** yeah I would!!!

 

Talent-wise he essentially looks like a bigger more athletic version of Diggs.

 

He isn't falling to 26. If he falls to the late teens I would trade up to leapfrog Pittsburgh to get him honestly.

 

His injury worries are simultaneously real and overblown. Throw the Collarbone out the window. That one doesn't matter. The torn knee ligaments and hamstring are there. They also could have just been inan unlucky 4 year run.

 

Dane Brugler's Beast bio goes through his HS career with no injuries and over 1500 yards in a full season of starts. Dude was coached by Hines Ward... so you know he's competitive.

 

There's no reason Tyson falls to 26 or even 20... but if he does, draft him.

It's highly unlikely he falls that far, but if enough teams are scared off by his injury history, it's certainly possible. Look at the Titans just a few years ago, when they drafted Caleb Farley. I remember some analysis saying he was better than Surtain, but he had a long injury history in College and dropped to 22 overall. Out of the league by age 26.

Now Tyson isn't as bad as Farley, but I would also say, enough to cause concern.

[sven233]

I said "No" for the simple fact that I don't know who else is on the board.  I think the kid has talent, but he's not a "run to the podium no matter what" guy for me.  I could very well end up determining that he's the best player on the board, but between me not being as high on him as many are and not knowing who else is there to choose from, I answered the question based on if I am just over the moon about him.  I'm just not.  What are the other options?

[transplantbillsfan]

13 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

It's highly unlikely he falls that far, but if enough teams are scared off by his injury history, it's certainly possible. Look at the Titans just a few years ago, when they drafted Caleb Farley. I remember some analysis saying he was better than Surtain, but he had a long injury history in College and dropped to 22 overall. Out of the league by age 26.

Now Tyson isn't as bad as Farley, but I would also say, enough to cause concern.

 

Hopefully the better comparison would be Will Johnson last year... and he was great as a rookie after falling to the 2nd round.

[PrimeTime101]

13 hours ago, NewEra said:

He’s such an intriguing prospect.  Ability wise, he’s my WR1 in this draft.  I think he’s head and shoulders above the rest in terms of potential X’s.  To some, the X is our biggest need.  He’s silky smooth.  
 

He’s similar to another silky smooth pass catcher we’re familiar with.  Dalton Kincaid.  We all love him as a pass catcher and can envision a passing game that revolves around him.  Yet, injuries have kept that from coming to fruition.  As good as he is, has he been worth a first round pick?  Surely has not to date imo.  That may very well change but it may not. 

So the discussion here-  would you draft Tyson if he was available at 26.  Of course it’ll depend on who else is available, but we’ll pretend that no other top talents have unexpectedly slipped to us.  His injury concerns are real and we’ve seen crazier things than him slipping to 26
 

Is his talent worth the risk?  Or is the injury concern too much to pull the trigger.  Do we have buyer beware with Kincaid?  I suspect it would be an overwhelming vote to draft him, but would be interesting to see what percentage are that adverse to drafting injury prone players 
 

I would draft him.  I think he’s a pretty special route runner.  I guess I just love the pain of losing players to injury every week.  Definitely seems like a guy that will be plagued by injury.  I think all we’d need is one or two healthy seasons to get us a Super Bowl 

 

i would move up 3-5 spots to get this kid if i could.  great WR prospect. glad you show names in polls. great work.