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Hook him up a 2 year deal- he's still got some snaps left.   Don't care about the dpi meltdown- he's just a part of 'this' team.  

- with absolutely nothing to back it up other than a feel on his play, I'd bet a decent chunk he's going to have an upswing for the next year or 2.  

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On 4/7/2026 at 12:48 AM, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Hook him up a 2 year deal- he's still got some snaps left.   Don't care about the dpi meltdown- he's just a part of 'this' team.  

- with absolutely nothing to back it up other than a feel on his play, I'd bet a decent chunk he's going to have an upswing for the next year or 2.  

I agree with you.

 

White showed he has something left in the tank last year.  He would provide solid depth and would be a great mentor for our young db's.

 

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6 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I agree with you.

 

Whited showed he has something left in the tank last year.  He c would provide solid depth and would bevs great mentor for our young db's.

 

Definitely would be solid depth, but I do remember him in his rookie season... that was no 'train the young guys' kinda guy- he was a Nnamdi Asomugha level rookie DB.  
 

I'd only want him back if he can still do some of that, and I saw some signs of it last year.  

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We could use Tre.  Tre was great last year,  Tre woud fill CB 3, and allow draft picks other than CB.  We love Tre, and Tre loves Buffalo.  Lets see a Connor McGovern like, team friendly deal!

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1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Hook him up a 2 year deal- he's still got some snaps left.   Don't care about the dpi meltdown- he's just a part of 'this' team.  

- with absolutely nothing to back it up other than a feel on his play, I'd bet a decent chunk he's going to have an upswing for the next year or 2.  

 

He was better as the season went on and he definitely looked better than the year before. 

 

That said, a lot of that had to do with him always being best suited for McDermott's Zone style scheme. We won't be running that Defense anymore.

 

If the scheme is similar in the Secondary (and I honestly hope it isn't) - sure, you can sign him to a 1 year deal. But I wouldn't do 2 years, given his age and injury history.

 

But if the new scheme is a lot of Man - absolutely not. He'll get roasted like he was on the regular in 2024.

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5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He was better as the season went on and he definitely looked better than the year before. 

 

That said, a lot of that had to do with him always being best suited for McDermott's Zone style scheme. We won't be running that Defense anymore.

 

If the scheme is similar in the Secondary (and I honestly hope it isn't) - sure, you can sign him to a 1 year deal. But I wouldn't do 2 years, given his age and injury history.

 

But if the new scheme is a lot of Man - absolutely not. He'll get roasted like he was on the regular in 2024.

He was coming off an achilles in 2024- of course he was going to suck no matter the scheme.   
 

And as far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to miss McDermott's modern interpretation of Tom Landry's 'Flex' defense.  It kept all of our defenders on the field too long, when we should have been giving those minutes to our offense.  

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2 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

He was coming off an achilles in 2024- of course he was going to suck no matter the scheme.   
 

And as far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to miss McDermott's modern interpretation of Tom Landry's 'Flex' defense.  It kept all of our defenders on the field too long, when we should have been giving those minutes to our offense.  

 

I won't miss it either.

 

But that doesn't change the fact that he was Drafted here and went on to have tremendous success bc his skills were tailor made for McDermott and his Defense. He isn't fast enough to be a Man defender, especially at 31 years old (32 in the Playoffs).

 

There's a very good chance that the reason he hasn't been brought back yet is that Beane and/or Leonhard don't believe he's a good fit for the new scheme.

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I'm the biggest Tre truther going, but I wouldn't bring him back to play in this scheme at his age and with his injury history. 

 

I think they will draft an outside corner somewhere in the draft - round 4 or beyond most likely - but I also think Alford will be their CB3 as well as NCB1. If he has to go outside Gardner-Johnson will come up and play nickel and Stone will come in at safety. 

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5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think they will draft an outside corner somewhere in the draft - round 4 or beyond most likely

This might actually be possible now that McCorner was shown the door. That said, I will not be holding a clipboard during round one. My TV is way too expensive.

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It’s about money I am sure.   He likely will wait til after the draft to see his options.  Not sure how well he fits in Leonard’s defense vs  McDermott.  Under McDermott, they seemed to be able to get good performance from a range of corners skill set wise.  That may no longer be the case 

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10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I'm the biggest Tre truther going, but I wouldn't bring him back to play in this scheme at his age and with his injury history. 

 

I think they will draft an outside corner somewhere in the draft - round 4 or beyond most likely - but I also think Alford will be their CB3 as well as NCB1. If he has to go outside Gardner-Johnson will come up and play nickel and Stone will come in at safety. 

I disagree on the injury history concept- he was shaking all the final rust off as last season went along.  I believe he's the most healthy, mentally and physically, he's been in a few years.  Again, I can't prove that- but it's what I saw.  
 

And hell yeah, I'd take a 31 year old Stud over a 22 yo 4th rounder any day.

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6 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

I disagree on the injury history concept- he was shaking all the final rust off as last season went along.  I believe he's the most healthy, mentally and physically, he's been in a few years.  Again, I can't prove that- but it's what I saw.  
 

And hell yeah, I'd take a 31 year old Stud over a 22 yo 4th rounder any day.

 

You keep ignoring the fact that this isn't the same Defense. One that more than likely is not suited to his strengths.

 

It wasn't just the injuries that made him look atrocious in LA. It was also because they were asking him.to do things he wasn't great at.

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18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You keep ignoring the fact that this isn't the same Defense. One that more than likely is not suited to his strengths.

Well, I'm glad to hear he has strengths.  
 

what exactly can't he do?

 

He can obviously outthink and outmaneuver most receivers, he just can't maybe keep up in a straight line with the faster ones who get past him.  That's why God created Safeties. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Hook him up a 2 year deal- he's still got some snaps left.   Don't care about the dpi meltdown- he's just a part of 'this' team.  

- with absolutely nothing to back it up other than a feel on his play, I'd bet a decent chunk he's going to have an upswing for the next year or 2.  

He should be available until McDermott gets

another coaching gig.  

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3 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Well, I'm glad to hear he has strengths.  
 

what exactly can't he do?

 

He was never fast. He's gotten slower with age and injuries (as all players do). Because of this, he can't stay in coverage very long. It makes him a poor fit for Man to Man. Especially against speedy WR's.

 

That's why Jameson Williams had people thinking Tre's career was over and why LA let him go before the year was over. 

 

He's a great zone Corner. That's why he always looked great here with McDermott's Zone scheme. That's also why he looked better last year.

 

But Sean McDermott is gone. So is his Defense. If we're not running much Zone and we have our Safeties playing downhill more - he would be a bad fit and you wouldn't be seeing the same Tre.

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5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He was never fast. He's gotten slower with age and injuries (as all players do). Because of this, he can't stay in coverage very long. It makes him a poor fit for Man to Man. Especially against speedy WR's.

 

That's why Jameson Williams had people thinking Tre's career was over and why LA let him go before the year was over. 

 

He's a great zone Corner. That's why he always looked great here with McDermott's Zone scheme. That's also why he looked better last year.

 

But Sean McDermott is gone. So is his Defense. If we're not running much Zone and we have our Safeties playing downhill more - he would be a bad fit and you wouldn't be seeing the same Tre.

If the safeties are playing downhill more, we might as well just have 6 linebackers.  You make it sound as if the safeties won't actually do their 'Safety' job... since we'll have nothing but the fastest, leanest and smartest CB's lined up to perfectly defend the bumbling offensive minds we face on the week to week. 

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17 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He was never fast. He's gotten slower with age and injuries (as all players do). Because of this, he can't stay in coverage very long. It makes him a poor fit for Man to Man. Especially against speedy WR's.

 

That's why Jameson Williams had people thinking Tre's career was over and why LA let him go before the year was over. 

 

He's a great zone Corner. That's why he always looked great here with McDermott's Zone scheme. That's also why he looked better last year.

 

But Sean McDermott is gone. So is his Defense. If we're not running much Zone and we have our Safeties playing downhill more - he would be a bad fit and you wouldn't be seeing the same Tre.

 

I will say two things:

 

1. In the first half of his career (pre-the ACL) even though he was never fast he was a better man player than he got credit for and his metrics were consistently well above average in man situations - though not ELITE as they were in zone. The second half of his career his numbers in man are noticeably worse - I think his long speed is reasonably similar it is his explosive speed that has gone. His 10 yard split in his pre-draft 40 was an elite time for a corner and that allowed him pre-injuries to hold up in man because he could get on top of the route early. It's that explosive burst that has gone, sadly, and so he doesn't even get chance to use his smarts and understanding of leverage in the middle and at the top of the route, he's already lost. 

 

2. I wouldn't say we won't be "running much zone." While we will definitely be playing more man in this scheme - especially in high leverage moments - and so I agree it makes Tre a poor fit, there will still be a majority zone coverage. The Browns ran the most man coverage in the NFL last year at 40% (Denver was 4th at 35%, Bills were bottom third at 24%). So even the defenses that use a heavy dose of man coverage are primarily zone teams.

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That's basically reasonable and hovering around the reality, but what I'm pretty convinced what I was seeing as the year went along was a crossover point where his body was becoming healthy enough to display enough athleticism to allow the 'veteran savvy' to fill in the gaps and create a potentially quite formidable player.  
 

That's my reasoning.  

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3 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Hook him up a 2 year deal- he's still got some snaps left.   Don't care about the dpi meltdown- he's just a part of 'this' team.  

- with absolutely nothing to back it up other than a feel on his play, I'd bet a decent chunk he's going to have an upswing for the next year or 2.  


 

Not sure he is a fit any longer with a new defense that is going to put a ton more pressure on the CBs.

 

He was a McD guy - so like many guys - I am not sure he comes back with the change and the new scheme.

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