Dexter Lawrence requests a trade

[DJB]

 

[BillsShredder83]

On 4/7/2026 at 11:21 AM, Utah John said:

How about if we send Ed Oliver to the Giants as part of the deal?  Oliver has had his moments but he tends to disappear for long stretches, far more than you'd expect for an 8th overall draft pick.  And he's too small to be the tackle in a 3-4 defense.  Lawrence is a much better fit for the new scheme.

The biggest problem is availability. If they want to take a HUGEEEE risk off our hands, and give us the player that is better when Oliver is healthy... than we've located a sucker and its too much to ignore.

 

Don't get me wrong, I dont hate Oliver. I just have no trust in getting him into the playoffs without being on life support. 

 

In all honesty, Im not sure what the cap ramifications would be, but unloading bad $$ (high risk $), would be worthwhile enough to me, figuring out how to get it done.

 

A blue chip player, isnt a blue chipper when theyre on the bench in plain clothes 🤷‍♂️

[Victory Formation]

It would take 26, for that reason I would not trade for him.. Give me Concepcion or Cooper instead..

[nosejob]

5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

The biggest problem is availability. If they want to take a HUGEEEE risk off our hands, and give us the player that is better when Oliver is healthy... than we've located a sucker and its too much to ignore.

 

Don't get me wrong, I dont hate Oliver. I just have no trust in getting him into the playoffs without being on life support. 

 

In all honesty, Im not sure what the cap ramifications would be, but unloading bad $$ (high risk $), would be worthwhile enough to me, figuring out how to get it done.

 

A blue chip player, isnt a blue chipper when theyre on the bench in plain clothes 🤷‍♂️

A bicep tendon rupture is a guarantee to never be able to regain full strength and ability to do the same things . Went through it twice....in a month.  2 tears and 2 surgeries, same arm. I wouldn't dare attempt to put it to the test again. The second one came from taking clothes out of the dryer....with a brace on. Got most strength back but another injury is one wrong angle or move away. Trade him.

[RocCityRoller]

The only reason this seems off is because the Giants are also moving to a 3-4.

 

Lawrence (6'4 340) is penciled in as the NT in NY. He should be fine as NT in the modern NFL.

Ed Oliver (6'1 290) is probably going to try out at DE for the Bills, and NT in pass rush situations.

 

Lawrence's contract is a bit beefier than Oliver's is, but it has no voidable years. He also does not want to be in NYC anymore.

Oliver's contract has $10 million in void years..... Buffalo could avoid void cap hell and a bad fit with a trade of Oliver.

 

Both players have 4 yr playable contracts going into 2027.

Both currently have $40ish million in guarantees.

 

I hope the Bills have contacted the Giants about this trade.

Would Harbaugh find a way to get Oliver on the field?

or could the Giants use Oliver as trade bait elsewhere?

 

At 6'1 290 Ed could be a solid 3-4 DE. But he lacks the length to be a natural there.

He is also Buffalo's best trade bait.

 

What do you think???

[Walking Tall]

No. I’m not digging the idea of paying a NT over 30 million a year.

[RocCityRoller]

Just now, Walking Tall said:

No. I’m not digging the idea of paying a NT over 30 million a year.

Is paying a 3T DT in a 3-4 through 2030 better???

 

Ed is going to be paid by the Bills through 2030...

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Why do we always screw around with NT, just sign DJ Reader and let him play the spot when needed-which is what about 30%.

 

So NO!

Edited Thursday at 08:39 PM by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[T.E.]

In a vacuum, absolutely. 

[colin]

i think dexter lawrence is a much better player, so yes.

[RocCityRoller]

 

void year hell

[Walking Tall]

2 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

Is paying a 3T DT in a 3-4 through 2030 better???

 

Ed is going to be paid by the Bills through 2030...

Ed Oliver is much cheaper. Are you happy with the salary cap crunch we are currently feeling? Pay a freaking NT 30 something million a year and see how you like it after that.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

8 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

The only reason this seems off is because the Giants are also moving to a 3-4.

 

Lawrence (6'4 340) is penciled in as the NT in NY. He should be fine as NT in the modern NFL.

Ed Oliver (6'1 290) is probably going to try out at DE for the Bills, and NT in pass rush situations.

 

Lawrence's contract is a bit beefier than Oliver's is, but it has no voidable years. He also does not want to be in NYC anymore.

Oliver's contract has $10 million in void years..... Buffalo could avoid void cap hell and a bad fit with a trade of Oliver.

 

Both players have 4 yr playable contracts going into 2027.

Both currently have $40ish million in guarantees.

 

I hope the Bills have contacted the Giants about this trade.

Would Harbaugh find a way to get Oliver on the field?

or could the Giants use Oliver as trade bait elsewhere?

 

At 6'1 290 Ed could be a solid 3-4 DE. But he lacks the length to be a natural there.

He is also Buffalo's best trade bait.

 

What do you think???

 

Void money is already paid out bonus money - by trading him you accelerate it.  

[RocCityRoller]

1 minute ago, Walking Tall said:

Ed Oliver is much cheaper. Are you happy with the salary cap crunch we are currently feeling? Pay a freaking NT 30 something million a year and see how you like it after that.

Ed is 'not much cheaper'. He has $10 million in void years till 2030.

Both players have about $40 million in guarantees at the moment.

 

Ed is also not a natural fit in a 3-4. He has T-Rex arms for a 3-4 DE, and is not heavy enough to be a NT.

 

Trade your assets while they have value.

[machine gun kelly]

Um No.  I swear Ed is the new Epenesa with someone volunteering we should trade him all the time.  Oliver is a good player, and laying a NT $30 mil. Is ridiculous.  

[RocCityRoller]

7 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Void money is already paid out bonus money - by trading him you accelerate it.  

This made me look up void cap hits. You are correct, teams using the void contract are on the hook for the void years, and they may escalate...

 

So no this is not a potential trade.

Ed Oliver will cost $10 vs future caps going forward.... uggh, or worse be escalated forward...

 

What a mess.

 

Thank you for the correction.

Edited Thursday at 09:06 PM by RocCityRoller

[billsfan89]

Yeah player for player of course. But giving up Ed Oliver and a good amount of draft capital and a big contract I would pass.

[BillsFanForever19]

21 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

The only reason this seems off is because the Giants are also moving to a 3-4.

 

Lawrence (6'4 340) is penciled in as the NT in NY. He should be fine as NT in the modern NFL.

Ed Oliver (6'1 290) is probably going to try out at DE for the Bills, and NT in pass rush situations.

 

Lawrence's contract is a bit beefier than Oliver's is, but it has no voidable years. He also does not want to be in NYC anymore.

Oliver's contract has $10 million in void years..... Buffalo could avoid void cap hell and a bad fit with a trade of Oliver.

 

Both players have 4 yr playable contracts going into 2027.

Both currently have $40ish million in guarantees.

 

I hope the Bills have contacted the Giants about this trade.

Would Harbaugh find a way to get Oliver on the field?

or could the Giants use Oliver as trade bait elsewhere?

 

At 6'1 290 Ed could be a solid 3-4 DE. But he lacks the length to be a natural there.

He is also Buffalo's best trade bait.

 

What do you think???

 

You're not getting Lawrence for Oliver straight up.

 

It would cost at least a 1st (probably more) on top of Oliver. Then you'd have to pay him too, which will be a good deal more than Oliver.

 

If they did it, I wouldn't necessarily be upset about it. But I don't think that's something I'd be interested in doing, if I were making the call.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

void year hell

 

It's not that bad - i think 20ish in total void money in 2028 and that includes dawkins and oliver.  

[machine gun kelly]

One last thing I’ve said before.  DJ Jones, the starting NT for the Broncos under Leonard was not a space eating 335 lbs. NT like the old days of Teddy Washington.  He’s basically the same height as Ed, and only weighs 10lbs. More.  It’s not the 1990’s anymore.  Besides, Ed may be 3-4 DE, not a Nose.

 

we’re not in the scouting rooms or the defensive meetings.  We just don’t know.  We’ll see in two weeks.  If Leonard really wants an older guy after the draft, he can always have Beane grab DJ Reader.  He’d be cheap.