Dexter Lawrence requests a trade

[Warriorspikes51]

IMO this likely comes down to how badly Jim Leonhard wants him

 

perfect scenario for me is you acquire Dex to blow up the pocket & sign Reader for stopping the run.

 

DJ shouldn’t be too costly at this point

 

that would really give us great flexibility to run 3-4 and 4-3 fronts 

[wppete]

15 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Ed Oliver and a 3rd???

Why trade Ed Oliver? Makes no sense. Dexter lawrence would  make  Ed Oliver a better player. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, wppete said:

Why trade Ed Oliver? Makes no sense. Dexter lawrence would  make  Ed Oliver a better player. 

my original thought was to free up cap (maybe that was his too) but I forgot we restructured Ed and I agree 

[3rdand12]

6 hours ago, Virgil said:

I assume he would be our NT?

Coverage LB

6 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

It's an interesting thought. We'd have to do it as a post-6/1 trade to make it work with the cap this year and we'd end up saving $5.6M in 2027 cap space. But presumably as part of the trade you're making Lawrence the highest paid DT in NFL history so bare minimum $32M AAV. As it stands right now we are projected to be $32M over the cap in 2027. There's a lot of high base salaries we can convert next year to get under the cap but it would be tough to fit another monster contract in. Also we're probably looking at giving up two 1sts given our draft position every year and I remain firm that I would not give up two 1sts for any defensive player.

You seem emotional.

There are ways to make a 4 year contract work. He's 28.

In my mind he would be a Monster in the new Defense

 

EDIT

 I do believe Dunkirk checked agree for my " Coverage LB "

 

I posted again after that.

 

 for clarity of purpose 

 

Edited Monday at 11:04 PM by 3rdand12

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

He's a great football player.  I just think between the trade draft capital and him going to want an extension (probably 3 years $100M), it will

be too expensive for the Bills.  We can dream though.  

thats entirely out of our range and sure to get us lopsided. Bills still have plenty of needs before spending that kinda moola

 He seemed like a good fit moving forward. With ? Or without Ed Oliver

As long as Beanes is on the phone at least. 🤩

 Yea , we can dream 😇

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Okay remove Oliver from the deal since it apparently doesn’t help the cap

 

does Dion get restructured to create space?
If we randomly restructure someone at this point with around 13 mil currently then that would be fun

 

1st this year & 2nd next year?  
 

Walker Dexter Oliver would a super interesting line combo

Trade Dion LOL!!

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

No way. Nope. No. 

 

$34M dead cap this year or (I believe) $11M this year and $23M dead caps as a post June 1st trade to get a declining player, have less ammo for this year AND pay what will likely be a hefty new contract? Let one of the other clown teams make this mistake.

Forgot that they restructured him. I thought there was cap savings with the deal. It makes no sense otherwise to trade Oliver. Clearly the Bills have a plan.
 

I was hoping to leave the Dawkins contract alone but if you can get Lawrence I’m okay living the can. I’d exhaust all other options first (Ty Johnson cut and Rousseau reworked would get you there I think). I don’t remember if they did that yet.

[3rdand12]

58 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

IMO this likely comes down to how badly Jim Leonhard wants him

 

perfect scenario for me is you acquire Dex to blow up the pocket & sign Reader for stopping the run.

 

DJ shouldn’t be too costly at this point

 

that would really give us great flexibility to run 3-4 and 4-3 fronts 

 Have I ever mentioned how much I have Always respected and Admired you opinions here ?

This would be a dream come true.

Hoping and planning our second year guys can be a very strong rotation with some diversity and exp

[IBTG81]

2 hours ago, nemhoff said:

Oh gosh, nothing gets TBD worked up like one of these posts

I’ll put it this way. I’d rather have player with a Rashee Rice/Christian Wilkins personality combo than what I’ve heard about DL. That should give a hint and tell how bad it is. 

[TBBills Fan]

I'd give this years first or next years second for him. That is it

[billsfan89]

I don't think this is gonna happen for the Bills. I love Lawrence he's a beast. He's easily worth pick 26 and 182 in this years draft plus a 2nd in 2027. But I don't think the Bills are gonna be able to have a 35 million 29 year old DT while gutting a lot of draft capital. I think a team with a rookie QB contract with some extra capital in the draft will probably be in the mix for Lawrence. It is also possible the Giants just take care of him and give him a 2-3 year extension and more money on his remaining years. 

[Warriorspikes51]

14 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

 Have I ever mentioned how much I have Always respected and Admired you opinions here ?

This would be a dream come true.

Hoping and planning our second year guys can be a very strong rotation with some diversity and exp

wow someone actually does?! Cool😎😂

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Forgot that they restructured him. I thought there was cap savings with the deal. It makes no sense otherwise to trade Oliver. Clearly the Bills have a plan.
 

I was hoping to leave the Dawkins contract alone but if you can get Lawrence I’m okay living the can. I’d exhaust all other options first (Ty Johnson cut and Rousseau reworked would get you there I think). I don’t remember if they did that yet.

That Dawkins contract is a bad thing to extend any further imo

 

 but its tempting low hanging fruit I suppose.

 If they do I sure hope he comes in to camp in better shape.

 

Interesting and honest topic , this Lawrence

 

 

[billsfan89]

4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

That Dawkins contract is a bad thing to extend any further imo

 

 but its tempting low hanging fruit I suppose.

 If they do I sure hope he comes in to camp in better shape.

 

Interesting and honest topic , this Lawrence

 

 

 

Dawkins has one year remaining on his deal after this season. If they convert his salary it makes him a much harder cut after this season (Right now Dion's contract is counting for 25 million next season with a 13 million dollar dead cap it cut plus two void years). Right now I would imagine that if the Bills convert Dawkins that's gonna make his dead cap and void years larger. I think given Dion's age it's a bit sensible they are cautious with any conversions. I think if the Bills do any conversions on Dion it will be a smaller portion of his salary like a 3-4 million conversion to save 2-2.5 million and not push out too much. They still have some smaller levers to pull if the Bills want to do so. A conversion on Groot saves 2-3 million for example. 

 

So I think given the fact that they probably want the flexibility on Dion and that they have other ways to free up cap space won't do anything too aggressive on Dion. At worst if they need a little money for in season space or whatever they will make a smaller conversion. 

[Sojourner]

1 hour ago, wppete said:

Why trade Ed Oliver? Makes no sense. Dexter lawrence would  make  Ed Oliver a better player. 

Not disputing that. It comes down to lowering the trade price and better absorption of Dexter’s salary. 
 

I like Ed, he’s a solid player but I would rather Lawrence for a high priced interior DLineman. 

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

he won’t be traded after this I wouldn’t think

besides, acquiring Dex to pair with Walker next to him could make Oliver borderline all pro IF IF IF he can stay on the field

 

Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks. 

[Warriorspikes51]

 

[Kirby Jackson]

7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

This is exactly what some of the most informed people on the board have said since before the hire. I’ll trust their opinions along with the Cover 1 guys.

[JohnNord]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is exactly what some of the most informed people on the board have said since before the hire. I’ll trust their opinions along with the Cover 1 guys.

It all depends who.   Turner knows his ***** and also speaks with people within the organization.  I also like Anthony who knows a lot about the X’s and O’s

 

The rest of the crew like Aaron Quinn are just your typical fan/podcaster.  Don’t care much for them. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, JohnNord said:

It all depends who.   Turner knows his ***** and also speaks with people within the organization.  I also like Anthony who knows a lot about the X’s and O’s

 

The rest of the crew like Aaron Quinn are just your typical fan/podcaster.  Don’t care much for them. 

Tompsett on the cap is great too. Those guys are some of the best that we have. 

[Puckman5]

8 hours ago, US Egg said:

In here anything is doable.

I said that exact same thing at a Canadian strip club once.  

Edited Tuesday at 01:49 AM by Puckman5

[JohnNord]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Tompsett on the cap is great too. Those guys are some of the best that we have. 

forgot about Greg…agreed