Who are the two players on the existing roster that need to up their game to get us to the dance

[JP51]

Slow time before the draft.... Got to wondering... who are the two guys that currently sit on our roster that need to up their game and have the ability to up their game to propel us to the Superbowl...  a correct answer could be they dont exist, fine with that... but gimmie one OFFENSIVE and one DEFENSIVE player you think can elevate their game and get this team to the next level.  

 

For me on offense I feel like Dalton Kincaid has the talent to bring it to another level if he can stay healthy, to me he has the highest ceiling room of any offensive player to improve. Although not Kelce he has the ability to force defenses to game plan him I think he single handedly has the potential relieve pressure on other receivers as well as Josh if he can become a Top TE in this league so gimmie 1000 yards 60 receptions and 8 TDs and improve blocking and that would be huge for the offense. 

 

On Defense I am torn between Hairston, Oliver, Walker and Rousseau... I am going Rousseau, a 10 sack season if they turn him loose in the new defense with consistent play against the run would be monster for us, again opening up and relieving pressure on other players.  I see him as the one existing player on the defense that although not a game wrecker could definitely throw a very damp rag on an offense if he were to break out.... 

 

Who are yours?  

Edited Monday at 02:19 PM by JP51

[LEBills]

Kincaid and Hairston imo

[Don Otreply]

If by two you mean the entire team, then you are going in the right direction, 

[JP51]

Just now, Don Otreply said:

If by two you mean the entire team, then you are going in the right direction, 

Clearly the entire team needs to improve... I just want to know who are the two guys on the team that have the potential to raise their game to drive us to the next level. 

[Maynard]

There’s a lot to pick from here, many more than just two. I’ll say Coleman and Sanders, both look like duds right now. 

[Fan in Chicago]

4 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Slow time before the draft.... Got to wondering... who are the two guys that currently sit on our roster that need to up their game and have the ability to up their game to propel us to the Superbowl...  a correct answer could be they dont exist, fine with that... but gimmie one OFFENSIVE and one DEFENSIVE player you think can elevate their game and get this team to the next level.  

 

For me on offense I feel like Dalton Kincaid has the talent to bring it to another level if he can stay healthy, to me he has the highest ceiling room of any offensive player to improve. Although not Kelce he has the ability to force defenses to game plan him I think he single handedly has the potential relieve pressure on other receivers as well as Josh if he can become a Top TE in this league so gimmie 1000 yards 60 receptions and 8 TDs and improve blocking and that would be huge for the offense. 

 

On Defense I am torn between Hairston, Oliver, Walker and Rousseau... I am going Rousseau, a 10 sack season if they turn him loose in the new defense with consistent play against the run would be monster for us, again opening up and relieving pressure on other players.  I see him as the one existing player on the defense that although not a game wrecker could definitely throw a very damp rag on an offense if he were to break out.... 

 

Who are yours?  

Good thread. As you asked for two, I will pick Rousseau and Coleman.

Rousseau has been good but if the new scheme allows him to get after the QB with more consistency, we will have a very good chance to become the #1 pass defense.

Coleman - for all the reasons stated ad nauseum. If he magically becomes the modern Moulds who broke out in his third year, we will have an excellent combination of Moore-Coleman-Shakir. (this does not preclude us from drafting a WR in few days because hope is not a strategy

 

Runners up:

- Kincaid: I didnt name him because his concerns are more about availability than "stepping up his game". He is excellent when he plays healthy

- Oliver: Even setting aside his past injury-plagued season, he has to consistently dominate. He is one of the best players at his position in the league but I just get the feeling he only does said domination occasionally. Simon can come and beat me over the head for this but I really feel he should perform at 85-90% of Aaron Donald given where he was picked and the ability that he possesses. 

[JP51]

9 minutes ago, Maynard said:

There’s a lot to pick from here, many more than just two. I’ll say Coleman and Sanders, both look like duds right now. 

I mean Coleman becomes a force and TJ becomes a significant contributor that would fill two enormous holes... 

8 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Good thread. As you asked for two, I will pick Rousseau and Coleman.

Rousseau has been good but if the new scheme allows him to get after the QB with more consistency, we will have a very good chance to become the #1 pass defense.

Coleman - for all the reasons stated ad nauseum. If he magically becomes the modern Moulds who broke out in his third year, we will have an excellent combination of Moore-Coleman-Shakir. (this does not preclude us from drafting a WR in few days because hope is not a strategy

 

Runners up:

- Kincaid: I didnt name him because his concerns are more about availability than "stepping up his game". He is excellent when he plays healthy

- Oliver: Even setting aside his past injury-plagued season, he has to consistently dominate. He is one of the best players at his position in the league but I just get the feeling he only does said domination occasionally. Simon can come and beat me over the head for this but I really feel he should perform at 85-90% of Aaron Donald given where he was picked and the ability that he possesses. 

Pretty much agree with everything here, all of those players went thru my head i settled on Kincaid just because I think he has the highest ceiling as well as Rousseau, although Hairston may have the Highest ceiling of them all, Like Kincaid I am worried about his durability. 

Edited Monday at 02:35 PM by JP51

[BuffaloBillyG]

On offense one of Coleman or Palmer. On defense, one of Bernard or Dorian Williams. We need a guy to step up on those rooms in the worst way.

 

Added bonus pick: Since they seem committed to him, we need Bass to step it up. If he cannot I kinda want to see what we have with Maddux Trujillo. 

[JP51]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

On offense one of Coleman or Palmer. On defense, one of Bernard or Dorian Williams. We need a guy to step up on those rooms in the worst way.

 

Added bonus pick: Since they seem committed to him, we need Bass to step it up. If he cannot I kinda want to see what we have with Maddux Trujillo. 

Forgot about PK yes would love to see Bass step it up for sure...  I do wonder what a new scheme does for Williams... 

[JMM]

Groot and Kincaid. Period.

[JP51]

1 minute ago, JMM said:

Groot and Kincaid. Period.

Those were my picks as well. 

[GunnerBill]

19 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Kincaid and Hairston imo

 

This is the correct answer

 

[MrEpsYtown]

I’m going Kincaid. If Kincaid is healthy, he is the X-factor that makes the offense unstoppable. He changes everything and the team is clearly at their best when he is on the field. 
 

I am assuming that the defense is better just scheme wise and Leonhard will be able to hide the liability that is Terrell Bernard. His play is less consequential to the overall success of the team, but it would be nice if he could stay healthy, get bigger and stronger, and help the defense. 
 

Others have mentioned Hairston, and I agree. We kinda plug him in our minds that he will be fine, but again health is a problem as it is for Benford as well. The corners need to be better/healthier. 
 

TJ Sanders is another guy that has the potential to be a monster here and if he can stay healthy I think he has a breakout in this scheme. 
 

But yeah Kincaid, and the defense as a whole. 

[Gregg]

Jim Leonhard. He is the one who will be responsible for building a good defense. If he does a good job, then the Bills will have an excellent chance to finally get the Lombardi. I realize he is not a Bills player but with the exception of 17 and 4 he is probably one of the most important people in the Bills organization. He ultimately has to fix the side of the ball that has been the main reason for the Bills playoff failures.

[skibum]

Hairston for sure on D. HM to Hoecht, but that's a big reach. Just saying that if he could somehow be the guy he once showed he could be, I think it would be huge. I think Groot and Oliver are what they are; if they just maintain their best effort and stay healthy they'll be good, but not much better than we've already seen. 

 

While I can see why Kincaid seems the logical choice on Offense, I don't think he's the guy - First of all, I think he's been around long enough to be pretty close to his ceiling. Second, he is in the strongest position group on the team, so he doesn't need an all-time season for the TEs to get us to the dance. Third, having DJ Moore will probably cut into his target count. 

 

Does Tyler Bass count for Offense? Can I get an exemption?

Edited Monday at 03:03 PM by skibum

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, Gregg said:

Jim Leonhard. He is the one who will be responsible for building a good defense. If he does a good job, then the Bills will have an excellent chance to finally get the Lombardi. I realize he is not a Bills player but with the exception of 17 and 4 he is probably one of the most important people in the Bills organization. He ultimately has to fix the side of the ball that has been the main reason for the Bills playoff failures.

I think this is a very fair answer, I was thinking players... but JL could have the biggest overall impact of anyone... at least we hope. 

1 minute ago, skibum said:

Hairston for sure on D.

 

While I can see why Kincaid seems the logical choice on Offense, I don't think he's the guy - First of all, I think he's been around long enough to be pretty close to his ceiling. Second, he is in the strongest position group on the team, so he doesn't need an all-time season for the TEs to make an impact. 

 

Does Tyler Bass count for Offense? Can I get an exemption?

Yes someone else mentioned him... I think this is fair... 

[Lost]

DJ Moore and Hairston for me

[Gregg]

Just now, Lost said:

DJ Moore and Hairston for me

 

DJ Moore is also a very good answer. If he and Allen develop chemistry and become a dangerous QB/WR combo then that will open everything up offensively for the Bills. Shakir becomes more dangerous, so does Kincaid and think of what that will do for Cook if the Bills passing games improves with Moore. 

[BillsShredder83]

4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Why only 2? Theres a boatload of trash here. Why do you think McDermott was kicked to the curb?

Im genuinely excited to see what the DL guys can do.  Players love being given a chance to be aggressive and hunt, and Im hopeful that will help Rousseau.  If I could super-saiyan any one player on the defense its him thatd make the biggest difference.

 

My next biggest impact would be a surprise healthy season from Hoecht.  This feels the most likely to me, even if its just the 2nd half of season'ish.  Would love to have him earlier, but just be ready come crunch time.

 

I really need to see a healthy season out of Hairston & Kincaid.

 

TJ Sanders elevating his play would be pretty major too

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

DJ Moore is also a very good answer. If he and Allen develop chemistry and become a dangerous QB/WR combo then that will open everything up offensively for the Bills. Shakir becomes more dangerous, so does Kincaid and think of what that will do for Cook if the Bills passing games improves with Moore. 

I mean if the dude becomes a true number 1... this could be the biggest impact of all...  I just have visions of Claypool, Palmer, MCV, Sherfield, Coleman and Samuel dancing in my head...  probably unfair of me...  

2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Im genuinely excited to see what the DL guys can do.  Players love being given a chance to be aggressive and hunt, and Im hopeful that will help Rousseau.  If I could super-saiyan any one player on the defense its him thatd make the biggest difference.

 

My next biggest impact would be a surprise healthy season from Hoecht.  This feels the most likely to me, even if its just the 2nd half of season'ish.  Would love to have him earlier, but just be ready come crunch time.

 

I really need to see a healthy season out of Hairston & Kincaid.

 

TJ Sanders elevating his play would be pretty major too

Oh my forgot about Hoecht, just kinda felt like it was gonna be a recovery year, but if the dude hits it running that could be a major impact for sure.