GASabresIUFan Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: You’re making my point. Those aren’t the guys going at 26. Thieneman and the 4 WRs are the only 1st round guys that they’ve met with. The Bills are almost certainly trading down unless someone unexpected falls to them like Tyson. Copper, Boston and KC all have a late first early second grade. My best guess is Beane drops to the early second and sees who if anyone is available. Remember I’ve been pounding the table to draft WRs for years. Instead, Beane has consistently ignored the position in the draft, except Coleman, wasting picks on Diggs, Moore and Cooper and significant cap space on Diggs, Moore, Palmer, and Samuel. The real question is will Beane go against his history and actually invest in the WR position, or does he do what he usually does and draft defenders. I think he goes defense. Edited March 31 by GASabresIUFan Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: The Bills are almost certainly trading down unless someone unexpected falls to them like Tyson. Copper, Boston and KC all have a late first early second grade. My best guess is Beane drops to the early second and sees who if anyone is available. Remember I’ve been pounding the table to draft WRs. Instead, Beane has consistently ignored the position in the draft, except Coleman, instead wasting picks on Diggs, Moore and Cooper and significant cap space on Diggs, Moore, Palmer, and Samuel. The real question is will Beane go against his history and actually invest in the WR position, or does he do what he usually does and draft defenders. I think he goes defense. I was just challenging your post that he won’t use a consequential pick on WR. His actions right now, say that he’s very focused on the top of the WR class. He is not showing the same attention to the top of the defensive class. What are you seeing that says he isn’t focused on WR with a consequential pick? Right now, it has to be the betting favorite at 26 based on visits. Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 45 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: The Bills are almost certainly trading down unless someone unexpected falls to them like Tyson. Copper, Boston and KC all have a late first early second grade. My best guess is Beane drops to the early second and sees who if anyone is available. Remember I’ve been pounding the table to draft WRs for years. Instead, Beane has consistently ignored the position in the draft, except Coleman, wasting picks on Diggs, Moore and Cooper and significant cap space on Diggs, Moore, Palmer, and Samuel. The real question is will Beane go against his history and actually invest in the WR position, or does he do what he usually does and draft defenders. I think he goes defense. If one is just going to presume that Beane will continue his normal proclivites towards the WR position, it seems whoever comes in for a visit is immaterial. Most of the first round grade (inclusive of late first/early second) are WR. One asserts Beane won't draft one, the facts don't matter. The non-WR visits are almost all day 2 or later considerations. Again, the presumption argues, this means Beane is trading down. That may turn out to be true or Brady as the head coach, Josh Allen turning 30, the new stadium, an actual objective analysis of the WR room, any number of factors might portend a change. Edited March 31 by Dr. Who Quote
corta765 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 I would like this draft and Miller is pretty spot on. The biggest thing is they need those first 5 picks to develop into quality starters ala 2022. That is asking a bunch but that is also the current need to truly keep cultivating a new corp especially on the defense. If Cooper develops the Bills in one off season could go from a bottom five WR unit to a potential top 10 catching unit. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 I was looking at the Cardinals trade up option. If we go by exact value it actually works out but was wondering if you would be interested in doing it. Buffalo trades: #26 #91 Arizona trades: #34 #65 # 143 This is actually a perfect on the value chart Essentially the Bills drop back to the top of round 2 , flip 3rd rounders moving up 36 spots and adding an early 5th rounder 1 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 9 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I was looking at the Cardinals trade up option. If we go by exact value it actually works out but was wondering if you would be interested in doing it. Buffalo trades: #26 #91 Arizona trades: #34 #65 # 143 This is actually a perfect on the value chart Essentially the Bills drop back to the top of round 2 , flip 3rd rounders moving up 36 spots and adding an early 5th rounder Not bad I'm just fearful that there will be a run within 8 spots of guys I'm starting to really lean towards. That jump up in round 3 is awful nice though. Could be the difference between a career 2nd wave guy or a true starter. Edited April 1 by TheBeaneBandit Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted April 1 Author Posted April 1 27 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I was looking at the Cardinals trade up option. If we go by exact value it actually works out but was wondering if you would be interested in doing it. Buffalo trades: #26 #91 Arizona trades: #34 #65 # 143 This is actually a perfect on the value chart Essentially the Bills drop back to the top of round 2 , flip 3rd rounders moving up 36 spots and adding an early 5th rounder 1 Quote
T master Posted April 1 Posted April 1 On 3/30/2026 at 8:32 AM, Kirby Jackson said: For my money, Miller is the best in the business. Here’s his latest 7 round mock: https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/48299038/2026-nfl-mock-draft-seven-rounds-257-picks-projections-matt-miller Bills picks: 26 - Omar Cooper - WR - Indiana 91 - Derrick Moore - Edge - Michigan 126. Devin Moore - CB - Florida 165. Billy Schrauth - G - ND 168. Xavian Sorey Jr. - LB - Arkansas 182. Nadame Tucker - Edge - Western Michigan 220. Dalton Johnson - S - Arizona My biggest takeaway is that the Bills are adding a lot of guys named Moore this offseason. Thars probably because they need Moore talent at all of those positions !! 😜 3 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 On 3/30/2026 at 9:46 AM, Kirby Jackson said: I actually thought that initially but with the visits and workouts so far, I think otherwise. I put WR at 60% in round 1 (if they stay there). It just feels like the spot where value will match need. Cooper would be my favorite of the options but I think he’s off the board by then (assuming Jordan Tyson isn’t around). Concepcion and Boston feel like the most popular options at the moment (along with CJ Allen). Cooper is a home run BPA selection with the way that 1st rd fell too. If another team fell in love with him, I wouldn't mind a trade back into early 2nd and taking Chris Bell. Cooper is a piece that makes us better next year... Bell, probably isnt that due to the injury but he's got the 2nd highest floor to Tate, IMO, and the highest ceiling out of this class. Would absolutely be ok standing put and taking him if they have same conviction as I do... the return on trade down wont be anything crazy, but gives us an extra pick. Could probably have a chance at Bryce Lance early 2nd too if Bell is yanked off the pile Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 On 3/30/2026 at 9:54 AM, Kirby Jackson said: I agree. I think that spot where he took the ND guard is likely another defensive player. Gentry feels like an incredibly “toolsy” prospect that may be too light but was on the board. That length, athleticism and versatility feels like something Beane would like. He has Hoecht vibes (outside of weight). Hoecht weighs about 75 lbs more. Love seeing this kids name pop up! I saw him early this past season and saw a weapon who needs some work. Not sure exactly how he fits in, but would love to see us be the team to take on the project!! People glancing only at the height/weight are going to whiff about this kid. Give him his own S&C guy + nutrition and start stabbing on the muscle 💪🏼 Quote
Negan Posted April 1 Posted April 1 You need two to tango. Not sure a team will want to move up to late first for someone they can probably get in the early second. In a perfect world they might, but probably not for this class. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 On 3/30/2026 at 10:44 AM, Rigotz said: I like the positions they addressed, but I just don't see the fit with Omar Cooper Jr. He ran a relatively strong 40, but is not the burner / route winner we're lacking opposite DJ. Check out his scouting report ... Deebo isn't a great comp because he's about 15lbs lighter and doesn't run like a running back, despite the strong YAC. Personally, I think adding a speedster would make spacing a nightmare for defenses. If you open up the deep middle, it allows DJ to eat at all 3 levels and Shakir/Knox/Kincaid to do what they do best in the short/intermediate. That is the skill set we're missing, not a YAC monster who's hard to bring down. Bryce Lance has this in spades. Will NOT be there by our 3rd rder. Im 50/50 he'll be there at our first rounder still. I dont think its a certainty but I would not at all be surprised if he gets grabbed wayyyy earlier than anyone expects Quote
gonzo1105 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Yea so far early betting odds on WR but there are still 21 or 22 visits out there that haven’t been leaked yet so I’ll withhold saying they are taking a WR first Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 On 3/30/2026 at 2:17 PM, 947 said: We need to hope Ty Simpson falls to our pick. That's the best chance of somebody at the top of round 2 wanting to trade back into the 1st. Agreed, but remember a short trade down is probably goung to resemble our Keon trade down. Our net was 0 new picks- basically moved up a full rd from our 4th & 7th rd'ers Bills receice Rd1 #32 Rd3 #95 Rd 7 #221 KC #28 Rd 4 #133 Rd 7 #248 So our 4th rd #31 --> 3rd rd #31 7th rd #29 ---> 7th rd #2 Not a bad return considering it was 4 spots and we weren't enamored by anybody.... but I dont think were getting anywhere what people here have been guessing either. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 On 3/30/2026 at 2:19 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Honestly, I don’t really like this WR class (although I’m warming to Cooper who won’t be there). I’m just reading the tea leaves. At this point, that’s the group that they’ve spent the most time with. I’m not seeing them talking to any other 1st round guys (outside of Thieneman). I suspect that will change. I don’t think that the Bills are spending their time there without considering them. This to me though feels like Beane is doing the 180 on the WR room like he did on the DL last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if 2 of the 6 WRs they they keep aren’t yet on the roster. Add DJ Moore to that and half the room will be turned over. Yep, hes redone a ton at one position group, in an offseason, a few times. 2020 was WR Room - Beasley & Jon Brown 2021 was Rousseau & Basham (miss) Then there was the OL year: Connor McGovern + Torrence + Edwards + Brandon Shell Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted April 1 Posted April 1 I know it's slow season, but a full 7 round mock draft? A fool's errand. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I know it's slow season, but a full 7 round mock draft? A fool's errand. If youre looking at it like a literal prediction, and nothing else yes. If youre looking at it like: -what is each teams needs and level of needs -what range will guys get selected in/be valued at -see if guys are trending up or down based on combine/pro day/gm's + scouts doing some talking Plus, it's fun. Theres a ton you can learn from these 1 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 On 3/30/2026 at 9:32 AM, Kirby Jackson said: For my money, Miller is the best in the business. Here’s his latest 7 round mock: https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/48299038/2026-nfl-mock-draft-seven-rounds-257-picks-projections-matt-miller Bills picks: 26 - Omar Cooper - WR - Indiana 91 - Derrick Moore - Edge - Michigan 126. Devin Moore - CB - Florida 165. Billy Schrauth - G - ND 168. Xavian Sorey Jr. - LB - Arkansas 182. Nadame Tucker - Edge - Western Michigan 220. Dalton Johnson - S - Arizona My biggest takeaway is that the Bills are adding a lot of guys named Moore this offseason. I would be pretty happy with this draft. My only nit pick is that the Bills would probably go with a tackle over a guard for a mid-round O-line prospect. With Corbett in competition with Anderson I think they probably would want to try to develop a swing tackle behind Grable with the departure of RVD. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) Throwing this out there on Cooper.... he played out wide more than I realized.... just most of it was prior to this past year. I had to crop it TOP COLUMN IS 2026, SO HE TOOK MOST SNAPS (83%, 90%) OUTWIDE HIS FIRST 2 YEARS.... AND THEY WERE FROM A SOLID 15-16YD'S ADOT HAD DECENT GRADES THOSE YEARS AS WELL EFFICIENT THIS ENTIRE SEASON- more so than any other season... will teams see that as the normal curve of a player, or do they see a guy who only became efficient once he hit the slot? Rec% went up 20points: Edited April 1 by BillsShredder83 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 24 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: If youre looking at it like a literal prediction, and nothing else yes. If youre looking at it like: -what is each teams needs and level of needs -what range will guys get selected in/be valued at -see if guys are trending up or down based on combine/pro day/gm's + scouts doing some talking Plus, it's fun. Theres a ton you can learn from these I do a 7 rounder every year for myself. I realize that the chances of getting picks late are literally zero as I usually only get like 8-12 right in round 1 haha. I agree it’s more about fitting need and value. It also gives you a bigger picture of damn I had this guy falling way further than I should and could it happen in the real thing? It’s easy just to place an arbitrary grade on someone or run a simulator with someone else’s grades attached to it and say here’s my 7 rounder based off of that. It’s another thing to use your own brain and map out 255 picks and see where it falls. I’m in the 6th round of mine so far. I had the Bills making two trade downs, first with the Chiefs and then with the Giants to 37. My 7 rounder so far is: 37. T. J Parker Edge Clemson 91. Antonio Williams WR Clemson 109. Kaleb Elarm Orrs LB TCU 126. Trey Zuhn OT/OG Texas A&M 145. Julian Neal CB Arkansas 165. Zxavian Harris DT Missisippi(feels like a screw up and he’ll go higher) 168. Red Murdock LB Buffalo 182. Malik Benson WR Oregon Havent done 7th round yet but Bills have one pick left but it will probably be another DB Edited April 1 by gonzo1105 1 1 Quote
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