Myles Garrett?

[Shaw66]

I don't see that anyone has begun a discussion here on this subject, and I'm curious about the possibility, so here goes. 

 

Buffalo Rumblings ran an article yesterday by Matt Warren saying that the Browns have restructured Garrett's contract in a way that dramatically reduces his cap hit for the next year or two. The cap saving doesn't really help the Browns in their latest effort to resurrect the team, and it seems that the principal benefit of the restructure is to make a trade for Garrett much more likely.  A trade might net the Browns three first-round picks (Ravens were willing to give two for Maxx, who was bringing a big cap hit with him), and apparently the Browns have asked the NFL to raise the current league limit on such trades from three years of picks to five! 

 

Point being that it seems the Bills could find the cap room to acquire Garrett, if they were willing to trade maybe three first round picks, or maybe two picks plus Rousseau, or something along those lines. 

 

I don't like mortgaging the future, but Myles Garrett is an extraordinary talent. He could be Josh Allen's Chris Jones. 

 

Any buyers at The Stadium Wall?

 

[Draconator]

It's an intriguing idea, but I don't see it happening.

[DJB]

Can he play LB or WR?

[SoonerBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't see that anyone has begun a discussion here on this subject, and I'm curious about the possibility, so here goes. 

 

Buffalo Rumblings ran an article yesterday by Matt Warren saying that the Browns have restructured Garrett's contract in a way that dramatically reduces his cap hit for the next year or two. The cap saving doesn't really help the Browns in their latest effort to resurrect the team, and it seems that the principal benefit of the restructure is to make a trade for Garrett much more likely.  A trade might net the Browns three first-round picks (Ravens were willing to give two for Maxx, who was bringing a big cap hit with him), and apparently the Browns have asked the NFL to raise the current league limit on such trades from three years of picks to five! 

 

Point being that it seems the Bills could find the cap room to acquire Garrett, if they were willing to trade maybe three first round picks, or maybe two picks plus Rousseau, or something along those lines. 

 

I don't like mortgaging the future, but Myles Garrett is an extraordinary talent. He could be Josh Allen's Chris Jones. 

 

Any buyers at The Stadium Wall?

 

Not for the Rumored three 1st round picks.

2 minutes ago, DJB said:

Can he play LB or WR?

I will say this, from a pass rushing standpoint, an you imagine Chubb lined up on the outside of Garrett?  Whew!  Reminds me of Paup lined up outside of Bruce, but if Bruce was still in his prime at the time.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

For 3 firsts? No chance from me. Way too much. You're hurting the long term outlook of the club.

 

On top of that, the deal looks backloaded like crazy with a huge amount of cash. So when the deal gets to those years, you don't have 1 first round picks for several years in a row for cheap high end talent.

[Low Positive]

As good as he was last year, he is now on the wrong side of 30. That's a lot to give up for probably two years of elite play.

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, DJB said:

Can he play LB or WR?

Would you rather have a LB or WR than the best pass rusher in the nfl?  
 

pass rush is still our biggest need.  It will always be our biggest need until we have a great one.  As it stands, our pass rush is probably mid. 
 

that said- this news is probably bad for us.  He’ll probably be traded to an afc team that we’ll play in the playoffs 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Would you rather have a LB or WR than the best pass rusher in the nfl?  
 

pass rush is still our biggest need.  It will always be our biggest need until we have a great one.  As it stands, our pass rush is probably mid. 
 

that said- this news is probably bad for us.  He’ll probably be traded to an afc team that we’ll play in the playoffs 

Pats have picks, cap space, and an owner who is demanding to win RIGHT NOW. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Not for the Rumored three 1st round picks.

I will say this, from a pass rushing standpoint, an you imagine Chubb lined up on the outside of Garrett?  Whew!  Reminds me of Paup lined up outside of Bruce, but if Bruce was still in his prime at the time.

Garrett can be compared to Bruce but no way is Chubb at this stage comparable to Paup.

[BarleyNY]

Yesterday I posted about this in the FA Bonanza thread. Unlike last season he appears to be available for trade this offseason - probably after 6/1. Three end of round firsts for Myles Garrett would be a steal for the Bills. He’d probably require the Bills to play a four man front, but that would be a small price to pay. And where the Bills would be expected to draft it would likely take more than that. The Bills would also have to shed some cash spend to acquire him. That might be trickier at this point in the offseason. 

Edited March 27 by BarleyNY

[DJB]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Would you rather have a LB or WR than the best pass rusher in the nfl?  
 

pass rush is still our biggest need.  It will always be our biggest need until we have a great one.  As it stands, our pass rush is probably mid. 
 

that said- this news is probably bad for us.  He’ll probably be traded to an afc team that we’ll play in the playoffs 

Look I love Garrett, he’s a franchise DE a total stud and I’d love to bring him here 

 

But I also want to see what our scheme change does to our pass rush. 
 

To me for years I’ve pointed out that it’s not just a coincidence that once guys came to the McDermott D they didn’t put up numbers or when they left they had success. I preached about how our scheme was not conducive to generating sacks and pressures 

 

Let’s see what Leonard can get out of this group. I think many will be surprised 

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

Pats have picks, cap space, and an owner who is demanding to win RIGHT NOW. 

Yup.  They didn’t add very much this offseason to date.  I expect that to change in a big way.  They should be going all in to win before Maye gets paid imo

[Lost]

There's only 1 person in the league I would consider trading 3 first round picks for and that person is Josh Allen

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Not for the Rumored three 1st round picks.

 

That kind of price tag should get you a QB imo. I know it’s a premium position, but too rich for my blood to have so many eggs in one basket in terms of draft pick compensation and salary cap ramifications. 

[NewEra]

Just now, DJB said:

Look I love Garrett, he’s a franchise DE a total stud and I’d love to bring him here 

 

But I also want to see what our scheme change does to our pass rush. 
 

To me for years I’ve pointed out that it’s not just a coincidence that once guys came to the McDermott D they didn’t put up numbers or when they left they had success. I preached about how our scheme was not conducive to generating sacks and pressures 

 

Let’s see what Leonard can get out of this group. I think many will be surprised 

I hear ya and I agree.  But Myles Garrett is likely a top 3 pass rusher ever….if not the best.  If we add him (which we won’t, I agree) it doesn’t matter as much who’s playing ILB

[BuffaloRebound]

If Garrett is actually available, I’d trade 3 first rounders without thinking twice.  It would probably take more than that.  

[scuba guy]

20 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't see that anyone has begun a discussion here on this subject, and I'm curious about the possibility, so here goes. 

 

Buffalo Rumblings ran an article yesterday by Matt Warren saying that the Browns have restructured Garrett's contract in a way that dramatically reduces his cap hit for the next year or two. The cap saving doesn't really help the Browns in their latest effort to resurrect the team, and it seems that the principal benefit of the restructure is to make a trade for Garrett much more likely.  A trade might net the Browns three first-round picks (Ravens were willing to give two for Maxx, who was bringing a big cap hit with him), and apparently the Browns have asked the NFL to raise the current league limit on such trades from three years of picks to five! 

 

Point being that it seems the Bills could find the cap room to acquire Garrett, if they were willing to trade maybe three first round picks, or maybe two picks plus Rousseau, or something along those lines. 

 

I don't like mortgaging the future, but Myles Garrett is an extraordinary talent. He could be Josh Allen's Chris Jones. 

 

Any buyers at The Stadium Wall?

 

What most people don't understand is, the Bills always pick in the last half of the draft.  So are 3 first round picks from the bills really worth that much! I am not saying go for it or not.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

People place way to much value on draft picks vs an elite pass rusher. None of the picks could amount to anything, he is a known quantity.

[Conlan58]

10 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

People place way to much value on draft picks vs an elite pass rusher. None of the picks could amount to anything, he is a known quantity.

So you're telling me you would throw away the potential of drafting 3 John McCargo's or Tremaine Edmunds for Myles Garrett??

 

Sheesh... 

[Shaw66]

I couldn't be a GM; I'm too conservative. I would never swallow hard and agree to trade three firsts and a player to get Garrett. I'm too risk averse. 

 

However, I have these thoughts about it. 

 

1. Beane has said often that the draft is for building the team for the long-term, and trading three firsts would severely hamper his ability to continue to add talent for the long term.  However, he's willing to compromise a bit on that idea, as he traded a healthy package to get Diggs, and this year he gave up his second to get Moore.  If Garrett has three good seasons in him, that's future enough for me.  Big if.

 

2. Someone said Bills would have to go to a four-man front if they had Garrett. Can't he be a DE, playing inside Groot or Chubb?  He's got the size. Play Oliver at the other DE. That's four Pro Bowl or better players across the front line. 

 

3. Someone said the low cap hit in the coming year or two is offset later down the road, but I think I understood the article to suggest that by doing what they did, the Browns ate a large part of the downstream cap hit.  That's part of what makes Garrett a cap-friendly trade target.  Essentially, the Browns are essentially buying picks with this restructure and a trade.