eball Posted March 24 Posted March 24 It’s pretty clear that the “insiders” are only getting their contract info from agents under a quid-pro-quo arrangement that the insider will credit the agent in the text/tweet. And of course, the way in which the insider posts the news disingenuously represents the maximum vs. “real” value of the deal (so the agent looks better). Not blaming anyone or complaining…just making an observation that you can’t accept these reports at face value. The Kelce “announcement” is a perfect example. 2 6 Quote
ddaryl Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Free advertising and "insiders" are begging for the feed... Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 24 Posted March 24 This is how "insiders" have always worked. And it really doesn't matter how they describe the deal when they "break" the story---the actual details are reported everywhere soon after. So I don't understand the criticism here. 2 4 Quote
finn Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Reminds me of the way some random reporter speculating idly about a trade or signing becomes a headline. Quote
DJB Posted March 24 Posted March 24 The only insiders are Adam Schefter and Ian Rappaport. The rest are team and agent mouthpieces 1 Quote
eball Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 39 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: What was wrong with the Kelce "announcement"? Announcing a 3-year deal for oodles of $$$, when anyone with half a brain knows it’s basically a one-year contract, and adding “deal negotiated by xxx”…is just silly is all. I guess there’s nothing “wrong” with it, I just rolled my eyes. 6 1 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted March 24 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, eball said: It’s pretty clear that the “insiders” are only getting their contract info from agents under a quid-pro-quo arrangement that the insider will credit the agent in the text/tweet. And of course, the way in which the insider posts the news disingenuously represents the maximum vs. “real” value of the deal (so the agent looks better). Not blaming anyone or complaining…just making an observation that you can’t accept these reports at face value. The Kelce “announcement” is a perfect example. Are you just now noticing this? This is how it has worked for years. Quote
eball Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Are you just now noticing this? This is how it has worked for years. I’ve just recently noticed all of the “deal negotiated by XXX” stuff added on to the tweets. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention before and it has always been there. The added focus on who the agent is has been noticeable (to me). Edited March 24 by eball Quote
Roundybout Posted March 24 Posted March 24 48 minutes ago, DJB said: The only insiders are Adam Schefter and Ian Rappaport. The rest are team and agent mouthpieces Schefter and Rap are the biggest examples! Schefter especially is an agent shill. I think guys like Field Yates are more of an insider than Schefty. Quote
BarleyNY Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) 29 minutes ago, eball said: I’ve just recently noticed all of the “deal negotiated by XXX” stuff added on to the tweets. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention before and it has always been there. The added focus on who the agent is has been noticeable (to me). I’ve learned that I should always wait for details before passing judgement on any contract. Some awful looking ones wound up not being all that bad. Agents are always looking to add clients and any advertising they get for negotiating splashy looking contracts helps. Plus it puts their name out there. Edited March 24 by BarleyNY Quote
RobbRiddick Posted March 24 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: What was wrong with the Kelce "announcement"? They called him Mrs Swift 1 5 Quote
First Round Bust Posted March 24 Posted March 24 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/12344/travis-kelce - contract is very modest with void years and is likely a one year deal.. Quote
papazoid Posted March 24 Posted March 24 mike florio of pro football talk, probably out of professional jealousy, has been calling out the insider/agent farce for years for what, enough time, say 10 minutes, to post on twitter before all the media has the info except maybe exact contract details, which in some cases takes days before the team submits to league office Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 22 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/12344/travis-kelce - contract is very modest with void years and is likely a one year deal.. $12m guaranteed isnt crazy in itself... but its pretty crazy for what he brings to the table at this point Quote
Don Otreply Posted March 24 Posted March 24 It is as if they get a kickback from the agents for advertising for them, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if that were the case, and it likely is. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 24 Posted March 24 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Schefter and Rap are the biggest examples! Schefter especially is an agent shill. I think guys like Field Yates are more of an insider than Schefty. 2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: I actually kind of prefer Tom Pelissaro I think Dianna Russini is the last true "insider". Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 24 Posted March 24 3 hours ago, eball said: Announcing a 3-year deal for oodles of $$$, when anyone with half a brain knows it’s basically a one-year contract, and adding “deal negotiated by xxx”…is just silly is all. I guess there’s nothing “wrong” with it, I just rolled my eyes. Every NFL contract is announced on the basis of its full length. It isn't a one-year contract - it's a 3 year contract. We all know he will only play one year on it, but if they'd said "Travis Kelce signs a 1-year contract" that would have been untrue. 38 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/12344/travis-kelce - contract is very modest with void years and is likely a one year deal.. If this is true - then I retract my earlier point. But that wasn't my understanding. 2 Quote
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