Lost Posted March 23 Posted March 23 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Thats - never win another SB while this contract exists - territory. But they already got one, so good for JSN. Best case scenario though for Seattle is if they can keep Darnold at his current pay to offset some of the cap impact of this. But if Darnold ends up with a pay bump, this is going to be a lot of money to navigate and still try and stay a legit contender. Interesting - Seattle SB MVP was a RB, not their now $40M WR nor their well paid QB. They just let that SB MVP walk for peanuts comparably, and their successor RB is coming off a major injury and is more a committee RB than a lead back. A lot now riding on the passing game in Seattle. Darnold was is solid starter, but he isn't carrying a team back to the SB. Without Walker, they not only don't win the SB, but they wouldn't have even reached it. But JSN and Darnold still get all the money and attention. Book it - Seattle is going to take a step back this year. Beane always manages to wrap up similar amount of cap space on JAGs while still paying Josh Allen top QB money. I'd trade Terell Bernard, Dawson Knox and Josh Palmer for one JSN 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) 8 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Wow. Just imagine how much money Keon Coleman is going to make when he hits the open market.. OK, that was good!!!!!😄 10 minutes ago, Lost said: I'd trade Terell Bernard, Dawson Knox and Josh Palmer for one JSN And that would be oh so generous of you. Edited March 23 by Bill from NYC 1 1 Quote
thronethinker Posted March 23 Posted March 23 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ll just come out and say it: “these guys are all making way too much money”. Yep, and we all gladly pony up the cash. One has to wonder how much longer it can be sustained. 1 Quote
iccrewman112 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 10 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: this is why I believe you need to take a WR in round 1 at least every 3 years or whenever a value presents itself at your pick. cost controlled contract, trade piece, the ability to resign if a star (since elites WRs rarely hit the open market and if so the price is unreal. 2 Quote
PauleeeWalnuts Posted March 24 Posted March 24 13 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Wow. Just imagine how much money Keon Coleman is going to make when he hits the open market.. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 I can’t believe he re signed in Seattle. i was told free agents will only want to sign and live in Texas and Florida because of taxes and stuff. weird. 1 2 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted March 24 Posted March 24 15 hours ago, somnus00 said: It's okay, I hear he's so slow, it takes him 5 years to complete a 4 year contract. The anti Chuck Norris Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 16 hours ago, DCofNC said: Both close in terms of production, Puka is an absolute monster as a blocker too though. I think the “more complete” WR is Puka. Unfortunately, that also comes with what appears to be a disaster in the waiting off the field. JSN, looks to be the type of guy you hope your daughter finds, where Puka looks like he’d love to hang w Diggs. Blocking isnt on my WR priority list. I want them to be able to create space and get open on their own and catch the ball. IMO, JSN is the more complete pure WR and Puka is more a product of his system and good at other things. 15 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Dunno about that. In 2024, Darnold was good and much better than he was earlier in his career (his year in SF the year before was apparently huge for his development). And in 2025, he was better than he was in 2024. He has the tools - good mobility, good arm, accuracy, and now the ability to run a Shanahan-tree offense with relative ease. I could see him having a huge year this year, and if that happens, Schneider won’t be able to turn the page (and nor should he). I expect Darnold to play above his contract. Just not sure it's worth paying him $45M+ and a WR $40M+. Even with the ever-growing cap. 15 hours ago, Lost said: Beane always manages to wrap up similar amount of cap space on JAGs while still paying Josh Allen top QB money. I'd trade Terell Bernard, Dawson Knox and Josh Palmer for one JSN I think you still need to add at least one more guy to get to JSNs salary Quote
NoSaint Posted March 24 Posted March 24 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Blocking isnt on my WR priority list. I want them to be able to create space and get open on their own and catch the ball. IMO, JSN is the more complete pure WR and Puka is more a product of his system and good at other things. I expect Darnold to play above his contract. Just not sure it's worth paying him $45M+ and a WR $40M+. Even with the ever-growing cap. I think you still need to add at least one more guy to get to JSNs salary I did see interesting debate on puka and whether you trade him and try to elevate a cheaper guy again Ala what they’ve done with kupp and now puka…. Similar to the chiefs at cb. I’ll say there’s something compelling about maybe 2 firsts, saving 160M in cap space and trying to develop a guy if you think you have a special talent in evaluation, coaching and scheme that helps get more out of resources there than most teams do 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted March 24 Posted March 24 17 hours ago, thronethinker said: Yep, and we all gladly pony up the cash. One has to wonder how much longer it can be sustained. The weird part is, we haven’t hit the tipping point yet. In fact, we aren’t close to the tipping point. The TV deals will be redone in a few years and that will lead to a windfall of new cash. Remember, the players make a percentage of what the league makes. 48.8% I think is the number. When you see new networks carrying games or Black Friday games or International Games, or whatever, what you’re seeing is a rising salary cap. I think it surpasses $500M within 10 years. We are seeing $20M increases annually but that’ll shoot up over $30M a year in the near future. @GunnerBill suggested the salary cap growing by $100M every 3 years as a guideline when the next TV deal comes up in a few years. We will see if it continues on that trajectory for years/decades to come, but it’s not slowing now. You’ll see QBs that push $100M AAV. 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 24 Posted March 24 46 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The weird part is, we haven’t hit the tipping point yet. In fact, we aren’t close to the tipping point. The TV deals will be redone in a few years and that will lead to a windfall of new cash. Remember, the players make a percentage of what the league makes. 48.8% I think is the number. When you see new networks carrying games or Black Friday games or International Games, or whatever, what you’re seeing is a rising salary cap. I think it surpasses $500M within 10 years. We are seeing $20M increases annually but that’ll shoot up over $30M a year in the near future. @GunnerBill suggested the salary cap growing by $100M every 3 years as a guideline when the next TV deal comes up in a few years. We will see if it continues on that trajectory for years/decades to come, but it’s not slowing now. You’ll see QBs that push $100M AAV. Yep and we are in a growth period. A disuptor - the streaming services - has entered the market. Currently the traditional market players are still trying to compete and the NFL is trying to make room for both by expanding supply (more stand alone games, more tv slots etc). When I think you might see that growth slow is when the streamers have either "burned off" the networks or a new normal is established where the streamers own the big ticket items (the prime time slots etc) and the networks are left playing with the scraps (TNF, some Xmas games, international series etc). The question is can the networks afford for that to happen? I don't know how dependant their models are on having the NFL. I know in the UK Sky TV basically is unsustainable without the Premier League. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted March 24 Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep and we are in a growth period. A disuptor - the streaming services - has entered the market. Currently the traditional market players are still trying to compete and the NFL is trying to make room for both by expanding supply (more stand alone games, more tv slots etc). When I think you might see that growth slow is when the streamers have either "burned off" the networks or a new normal is established where the streamers own the big ticket items (the prime time slots etc) and the networks are left playing with the scraps (TNF, some Xmas games, international series etc). The question is can the networks afford for that to happen? I don't know how dependant their models are on having the NFL. I know in the UK Sky TV basically is unsustainable without the Premier League. Totally unsustainable here too. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/12/30/sports-make-up-96-of-top-100-telecasts-in-2025-tying-an-all-time-record/ Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 24 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Totally unsustainable here too. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/12/30/sports-make-up-96-of-top-100-telecasts-in-2025-tying-an-all-time-record/ Then I see the escalation continuing for some time to come yet. What will happen is the networks will cut their costs on everything else - original drama and comedy, news reporting and other sports to keep feeding the NFL beast because without it the other stuff isn't affordable anyway. Network tv will end up as cheap to make reality trash, the NFL and not much else. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 On 3/23/2026 at 5:47 PM, DCofNC said: Both close in terms of production, Puka is an absolute monster as a blocker too though. I think the “more complete” WR is Puka. Unfortunately, that also comes with what appears to be a disaster in the waiting off the field. JSN, looks to be the type of guy you hope your daughter finds, where Puka looks like he’d love to hang w Diggs. Merely 48 hours later... Puka Nacua Allegedly Bit Woman, Said 'F*** The Jews' ... Rams Star Denies Antisemitic Comment https://www.tmz.com/2026/03/24/puka-nacua-restraining-order-allegedy-biting-woman-made-antisemetic-remarks/ Headlines is hilarious. Isnt denying the biting. 1 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted March 25 Posted March 25 21 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Merely 48 hours later... Puka Nacua Allegedly Bit Woman, Said 'F*** The Jews' ... Rams Star Denies Antisemitic Comment https://www.tmz.com/2026/03/24/puka-nacua-restraining-order-allegedy-biting-woman-made-antisemetic-remarks/ Headlines is hilarious. Isnt denying the biting. I was coming here to post this but you beat me to it. Yeah JSN >>>>>>>> Puka 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted March 26 Posted March 26 On 3/24/2026 at 1:44 PM, GunnerBill said: Then I see the escalation continuing for some time to come yet. What will happen is the networks will cut their costs on everything else - original drama and comedy, news reporting and other sports to keep feeding the NFL beast because without it the other stuff isn't affordable anyway. Network tv will end up as cheap to make reality trash, the NFL and not much else. The league is absolutely going to 18 games too, and probably in 2027. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) On 3/23/2026 at 6:42 PM, Lost said: Beane always manages to wrap up similar amount of cap space on JAGs while still paying Josh Allen top QB money. I'd trade Terell Bernard, Dawson Knox and Josh Palmer for one JSN Not getting Jackson Smith for those three guys lol And nobody wants to take on the contracts of those three guys lol If we wanted Jackson Smith we would have to trade legit one of our best players at a position they need and a first round pick + more lol Christian Benford plus 2 first round picks might do it lol And you don't want to give that up for a wide receiver Edited March 26 by Buffalo716 Quote
boyst Posted March 26 Posted March 26 12 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The league is absolutely going to 18 games too, and probably in 2027. Isn't 2027 the first year the NFL can realign the divisions as well? Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: The league is absolutely going to 18 games too, and probably in 2027. And ultimately I believe a 16 game international series where every one of the 32 teams plays once internationally per year. They are at 9 already for 2026. Edited March 26 by GunnerBill Quote
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