Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 30 Posted May 30 18 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: If this doesn't happen, the entire national media needs to flog themselves because I've never seen a trade that hasn't actually happened be talked about as if it has similar to this impending (or not...?) trade. Honestly though... wouldn't a trade this open at least drive up the price massively??? You would think so because the Pats have basically backed themselves into a corner. And really, I'm not even sure it is their fault, maybe more the medias and Eagles faults. But it seems the entire Pats fan base will be let down if Brown is not a Patriot come week 1. That makes it easier for the Eagles to ask for whatever they want. What I have heard is that financially there is no way AJ Brown can be on the Eagles roster next year, but when does his salary actually become a problem so large it would blow of the Eagles team? He can't be traded until June 1, but then what is the date in which they HAVE to trade him by before their cap explodes? Is it before the season starts or before the next league year? If it is just before the next league year maybe trade him in season before the deadline. 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted May 30 Posted May 30 On 5/28/2026 at 2:07 PM, Einstein said: You can't just ignore that playoff performance Drake Maye put on. It was one of the worst i've ever seen. Sure, but he's a 2nd year QB that made it the Super Bowl despite that. That means the Pats are FAR better than we were in year 2 with Allen, and they've got a legit D, coach & ST that's capable of buckling down & covering for a QB who's struggling. Our team has had 8 seasons with Allen, but we've never had a team that can makeup for Allen's mistakes when facing good teams. You ever think the Bills D would win an AFCCG where Allen only threw for 85 yards & offense scored just 10 points? Even if Allen is better than Maye when just comparing QBs (though regular season, most would say he wasn't), we're Buffalo Bills fans > fans of just a single player, right? We're rooting for the Bills to win a Super Bowl, not just Allen to win a Super Bowl. So with that in mind, the Patriots already have gotten closer to that goal than we have, and adding AJ Brown would not be helpful towards our goal of winning a SB. 1 Quote
Nelius Posted May 31 Posted May 31 It’s not like we’re talking about DeVonta Smith here… but seriously Brown had had a weird career arc in that he seemed quite underrated maybe 4 years ago, and I think he’s wildly overrated now. I don’t think he’s provide them more than a younger Jakobi Meyers did. 800 yds max? That’s enough to move the needle and reshuffle your SB odds? 1 Quote
Malazan Posted May 31 Posted May 31 4 hours ago, BigDingus said: You ever think the Bills D would win an AFCCG where Allen only threw for 85 yards & offense scored just 10 points? Are they facing a backup QB after the starter got injured at the end of the previous game? 2 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Until Drake Maye figures out the cover six it doesn’t matter who they get. I think the books already out on him, very similar to Mac Jones who everybody thought it was God when he was a rookie and look where that went. 1 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted June 1 Posted June 1 On 5/31/2026 at 9:10 AM, The Firebaugh Kid said: Until Drake Maye figures out the cover six it doesn’t matter who they get. I think the books already out on him, very similar to Mac Jones who everybody thought it was God when he was a rookie and look where that went. I dont think anyone (at least not anyone serious anyways) was ever this much on the Mac Train. Theyre totally different level prospects. Lets see how year 3 plays out for Maye Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 1 Posted June 1 On 5/30/2026 at 11:56 PM, Nelius said: It’s not like we’re talking about DeVonta Smith here… but seriously Brown had had a weird career arc in that he seemed quite underrated maybe 4 years ago, and I think he’s wildly overrated now. I don’t think he’s provide them more than a younger Jakobi Meyers did. 800 yds max? That’s enough to move the needle and reshuffle your SB odds? I think if he's healthy, Brown gets 1,000 receiving yards easily. They will force him the ball a lot IMO. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 1 Posted June 1 On 5/31/2026 at 9:10 AM, The Firebaugh Kid said: Until Drake Maye figures out the cover six it doesn’t matter who they get. I think the books already out on him, very similar to Mac Jones who everybody thought it was God when he was a rookie and look where that went. I don't think there's any one coverage that beats someone. That just happened to beat what they were trying to do a lot of the time. You can often beat cover 6 with the running back, but it has to be out on time. If he's slow to read it, he'll sit on the deep ball too long. Generally his entire MVP run was fueled by a lot of deep ball success, which when you're on it tends to beat whatever is called. It also might indicate that teams looked to blitz him a lot which creates 1x1's. Quote
Ayjent Posted June 1 Posted June 1 On 5/30/2026 at 7:26 PM, BigDingus said: Sure, but he's a 2nd year QB that made it the Super Bowl despite that. That means the Pats are FAR better than we were in year 2 with Allen, and they've got a legit D, coach & ST that's capable of buckling down & covering for a QB who's struggling. Our team has had 8 seasons with Allen, but we've never had a team that can makeup for Allen's mistakes when facing good teams. You ever think the Bills D would win an AFCCG where Allen only threw for 85 yards & offense scored just 10 points? Even if Allen is better than Maye when just comparing QBs (though regular season, most would say he wasn't), we're Buffalo Bills fans > fans of just a single player, right? We're rooting for the Bills to win a Super Bowl, not just Allen to win a Super Bowl. So with that in mind, the Patriots already have gotten closer to that goal than we have, and adding AJ Brown would not be helpful towards our goal of winning a SB. I think the Pats just had everything go their way with the breaks, and they took care of the business that they could control for the most part. They weren't a bad team, but they were a very lucky team to get to the super bowl with how bad their offense was in the postseason. Vrabel deserves credit for controlling what they could and getting the right coaching staff together on Offense. Maye got a lot of hype for MVP, but the D was what got them to the Super Bowl (and all of the aforementioned breaks - figuratively and literally_. The reason the Bills haven't got their with Allen is the inverse, as you are pointing out - the D never really stepped up to provide relief to the margin for error on Offense. It was never "complimentary football" when it mattered, despite the mantra. It really never mattered how bad the opposing Offense was, there were yards and playcalls that were going to work against McDermott's defenses and that's why you had tighter games than there should have been against guys like Skylar Thompson - even with missteps by the Offense. You saw good coaching on other teams bring the level of intensity on D up several notches (even when the regular season D rankings weren't great), and the Bills never did, at least not consistently in the post season. Coordinators came and went, but the results were pretty much the same. So PatsFaninNH its not that McD was a scapegoat, he was at the end of the day the guy with his fingerprints all over postseason failure, because his calling card and his Defense always failed to be formidable in the postseason and that was never going to change while he was the Head Coach - there were more than enough postseasons to point to as evidence. While he was a great coach for the franchise and pulled them out of a historic postseason drought - the window on Allen's prime years required a change, and I think the Bills made the right moves. We'll find out for sure this year. 1 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted June 1 Posted June 1 36 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I wonder if this is purposely being leaked, to see if another team comes in the final hour with a better offer. Not likely, but wouldn't that be dandy. Quote
billsfan89 Posted June 1 Posted June 1 This would certainly be a big move to cap off a decent but not great off-season for the Pats. I think the Pats with Brown and Doubs replacing Diggs did get the added fire power they needed at WR. They also added Vera Tucker and a first round pick along an offensive line that desperately needed help. But the Pats defense is due for regression they lost two key edge rushers and a nose tackle and they didn't replace all of that in free agency (I think they added a decent pass rusher in Dre'Mont Jones and spent a second round pick on the edge but they lost more than they added) and that's in addition to some other depth losses that weren't replaced. I think Brown makes their off-season look a lot better. But I think they regress to 10ish wins good but the insane luck and overachieving they had will not repeat. Quote
Heavy Kevi Posted June 1 Posted June 1 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you! Obviously they won the division last year, made the super bowl, and had a QB who could have won MVP... But the fact that they feasted on terrible opponents in the reg season and had arguably the easiest path to the SB ever, coupled with Maye's crumbling in the postseason makes me less concerned. I still think the Bills got better this off-season with a new coach and defense than the pats did assuming they land AJ. I'm clearly biased but I still think Bills should be betting favorites to win the AFCE 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted June 2 Posted June 2 On 6/1/2026 at 12:56 PM, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I don't think there's any one coverage that beats someone. That just happened to beat what they were trying to do a lot of the time. You can often beat cover 6 with the running back, but it has to be out on time. If he's slow to read it, he'll sit on the deep ball too long. Generally his entire MVP run was fueled by a lot of deep ball success, which when you're on it tends to beat whatever is called. It also might indicate that teams looked to blitz him a lot which creates 1x1's. However we want to see it, dude got exposed. I expect more of the same next year. Quote
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