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1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Fields may very well the worst QB period in the NFL.  I think he is scared to throw the ball.  You might be better KJ.  

He’s WAY better than Kyle Allen. I’m not saying that Fields is good but if he plays 4 weeks for the Chiefs they could be 2-2. If Kyle Allen plays 4 weeks for the Bills they’ll be lucky to win a game.

 

To be clear, I’m not advocating for Fields. This to me is more, “why did the Bills rush to sign the 32nd best backup on week 1 of FA?” I would have much rather waited until the summer when the musical chairs stop and sign the best of what’s left (Jameis was my target).
 

The only plausible answer is, “Josh wanted his buddy.” Maybe someone beats out Allen and he is just an expensive PS guy. I’m fine with that.
 

I do care more about QB 2 than most. In my mind, when you’re good, QB 2 is way more important then when you are bad. I always look at it as a 4 game window. Playoff seeding and divisional races almost always come down to a game or 2. If your QB misses 4 games it matters if you’re 4-0, 3-1, 2-2, 1-3 or 0-4. With Kyle Allen I don’t think that they win 2 but that would be the ceiling for me. With some of those other guys, 3 wins is possible although 2 more realistic. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, wppete said:

His Base Salary: $20,000,000. 😂. Hope KC is on the hook for all that money. 

 

Early info on the trade seems to say the Jets kept $7M of Fields $10M guaranteed 2026 salary as well as his signing bonuses.
It's not clear what other terms were part of the negotiation, but it wouldn't be a shock, if Fields really wants to go to KC, if he agreed to renegotiate his contract with KC so his base salary is lower or even give some of it back.

 

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s WAY better than Kyle Allen. I’m not saying that Fields is good but if he plays 4 weeks for the Chiefs they could be 2-2. If Kyle Allen plays 4 weeks for the Bills they’ll be lucky to win a game.

 

To be clear, I’m not advocating for Fields. This to me is more, “why did the Bills rush to sign the 32nd best backup on week 1 of FA?” I would have much rather waited until the summer when the musical chairs stop and sign the best of what’s left (Jameis was my target).
 

The only plausible answer is, “Josh wanted his buddy.” Maybe someone beats out Allen and he is just an expensive PS guy. I’m fine with that.
 

I do care more about QB 2 than most. In my mind, when you’re good QB 2 is way more important then when you are bad. I always look at it as a 4 game window. Playoff seeding and divisional races almost always come down to a game or 2. If your QB misses 4 games it matters if you’re 4-0, 3-1, 2-2, 1-3 or 0-4. With Kyle Allen I don’t think that they win 2 but that would be the ceiling for me. With some of those other guys, 3 wins is possible although 2 more realistic. 

My guess is Beane knows if Josh goes down, we go nowhere. May as well get a top ten pick.

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4 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

My guess is Beane knows if Josh goes down, we go nowhere. May as well get a top ten pick.

If he goes down for a long time, sure. What happens if he misses 3 or 4 starts? That’s where the focus should be because that happens way more often.

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

If he goes down for a long time, sure. What happens if he misses 3 or 4 starts? That’s where the focus should be because that happens way more often.

Can't disagree, but I was trying to figure out what Beane is thinking other than just creating cap space.

Posted
11 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Fields just conned Jets into a 40M dollar contract for 2 years.

 

The young man has done well for himself

 

he's no Daniel Jones...

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Posted
1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:


Mildly? He’s awful. He’s now proven it at multiple stops. I mean if you want to argue Fields over Kyle Allen okay but Allen is getting peanuts 

I was actually referring to Trubisky in that regard 

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5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

If he goes down for a long time, sure. What happens if he misses 3 or 4 starts? That’s where the focus should be because that happens way more often.

 

hasn't happened yet

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:


Mildly? He’s awful. He’s now proven it at multiple stops. I mean if you want to argue Fields over Kyle Allen okay but Allen is getting peanuts 

 

Trubisky was getting peanuts last year.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

hasn't happened yet

 

Trubisky was getting peanuts last year.

Feel The Bern Desk GIF by Bernie Sanders

7 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

Can't disagree, but I was trying to figure out what Beane is thinking other than just creating cap space.

Probably just appeasing Josh. That’s the only thing that makes sense. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Feel The Bern Desk GIF by Bernie Sanders

Probably just appeasing Josh. That’s the only thing that makes sense. 

 

Pretty bad way to build a roster.  

Posted
3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Feel The Bern Desk GIF by Bernie Sanders

Probably just appeasing Josh. That’s the only thing that makes sense. 

Well, Kyle was the Panther's QB with DJ for a spell. But I think you summation is about right. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Gregg said:

Adam Schefter on X: "Trade: the New York Jets are finalizing a deal that will send QB Justin Fields to the Kansas City Chiefs, pending a physical, per ESPN sources. Other teams were interested, but Fields’ preference was to go to Kansas City. https://t.co/HFgFODMi0r" / X

Fields is trash. They should’ve signed Flacco if they wanted a solid bridge QB until Mahomies return and they wouldn’t have to give up picks. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I'm sorry, but Justin Fields is the worst QB I've ever seen play (besides Peterman) He offers no value or upside at this point in his career. I legit laughed when the Jets signed him last year. He is terrible. He had the 4th most passing yards in a GAME last year when Trubisky threw one pass. Comparing him to Alex Smith is disrespectful to Alex Smith.

 

He has had more chances than any QB I can think of, with nothing to show for it. He had 5 games last year with under 55 yards passing. How he is going to get another opportunity is beyond me. 

I'm out on Fields, but in fairness, there was 0 chance he was going to workout for the Jets.  These types of QBs barely work out, adding "the Jets", is a death blow.  They're like the opposite of a QB whisperer.

 

I can understand wanting some insurance, I think Mahomes is back by week 4.  I could see Reid being able to squeeze a solid 4 weeks out of an elusive athlete like Fields.  I'm not talking 4 - 0... but if the goal is to tread water, you might be able to gameplan enough with him to go 2-2 or 3-1, if everyone else performs well 🤷‍♂️. They'll have Walker to carry some load, and might add Sadiq.  Fields + Sadiq could be fun for a few weeks before you roll out your real offense.

 

Plus, Reid will have a full off-season to draw up a one month gameplan for this kid.  Expensive insurance, but its adequate 

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

For sure, and I hope we play them with Fields. But we'd lose to Appalachian State if Kyle Allen has to start for us at any point. 

Hey!  I live near them and their games are fun as hell!!! They're so insane and unpredictable that you'd almost think they're scripted.  

 

App State is right there with the Jayhawks as - the 'most fun 5 win team to watch ' in college ball the last 2 years

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