Daniel Jones signs with Colts - 2 years, $88 Million

[Einstein]

4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

 $44 million per seems perfectly fine for a QB of Jones's caliber.

His caliber?

He started the year hot, but over the last 5 games that led to his season ending injury he had 6 TD's, 5 INT's, fumbled 7 times, and took 13 sacks.

Colts went 1-4 in his final 5 starts. 

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Einstein said:

His caliber?

He started the year hot, but over the last 5 games that led to his season ending injury he had 6 TD's, 5 INT's, fumbled 7 times, and took 13 sacks.

Colts went 1-4 in his final 5 starts. 

He only played 22 percent of the snaps in the final game and the Colts lost two of those games in OT. But you also have to treat the whole body of work last year rather than cherry pick a less productive four-game run, which you can do with EVERY qb in the league, including Allen. It isn't as if teams "figured him out" between weeks 8 and 10. 

[Einstein]

51 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

But you also have to treat the whole body of work last year rather than cherry pick a less productive four-game run

If you want to talk about cherry picking, I would argue your reliance on an 8 game span where he played well in an otherwise disastrous 7 year career is the only cherry picking that is being done here. 

He had a poor first 6 seasons, then had 7 good games, then had 5 bad games, then got injured.

Player of his caliber indeed.

[strive_for_five_guy]

The next coming of Kirk Cousins here, with less success

[mannc]

When I see deals like this, I wonder to myself how much Josh Allen would get paid if there was no salary cap.  $100 million a year, easy, right?

[dave mcbride]

23 minutes ago, Einstein said:

If you want to talk about cherry picking, I would argue your reliance on an 8 game span where he played well in an otherwise disastrous 7 year career is the only cherry picking that is being done here. 

He had a poor first 6 seasons, then had 7 good games, then had 5 bad games, then got injured.

Player of his caliber indeed.

Enh. You could say the same about Darnold. Sometimes talented young QBs in bad situations figure it out and become, if not fully elite, good, solid NFL starters. There are many examples of this in NFL history.  The Colts obviously believe, and we'll see who is right. He had a rating of 100.2 and threw for 8.1 ypa and had a 68 percent completion pct last year. That's good play. Let's circle back after the 2026 season and see where we're at. I don't claim to be Nostradamus, but I also don't think that past results are necessarily good predictors of future production in cases like this.

[Mr. WEO]

$100 million max value with incentives for 2 years.  Absolute insanity!  Colts have learned nothing from the Giants epic mistake paying this rarely above mediocre starter. 
 

This guy had already “earned” a mind numbing 123 million before this deal—for a total of 32 wins in 7 years!   
 

Jim Irsay on a 10 day blackout bender wouldn’t have made this deal.  

[BillyJoeBills]

Unbelievable; just 2 years ago, Jones was backup QB on Vikings and he's rehabbing from a torn achilles

[JP51]

16 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

To think Daniel Jones has now conned 2 teams out of $40M AAV deals. When his career is over, he and Kirk Cousins should open a consultant firm as negotiators.

LOL, Brian Bosworth has nothing on these guys...  

[Mr. WEO]

15 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Enh. You could say the same about Darnold. Sometimes talented young QBs in bad situations figure it out and become, if not fully elite, good, solid NFL starters. There are many examples of this in NFL history.  The Colts obviously believe, and we'll see who is right. He had a rating of 100.2 and threw for 8.1 ypa and had a 68 percent completion pct last year. That's good play. Let's circle back after the 2026 season and see where we're at. I don't claim to be Nostradamus, but I also don't think that past results are necessarily good predictors of future production in cases like this.

 

Darnold is an order of magnitude better than Jones--he's won 28 games on 2 different teams in the past 2 years. Jones has led his teams to 32 wins in 7 years.

 

Now we're bringing the Colts "beliefs" into this?  The Colts believed, after Luck headed for the hills, that it was a good idea to trot out Brissett, Rivers, Wentz, Matt Ryan and Minshew as starters in successive years.  Finally waking up and realizing they may have a problem at QB, they believed it was a great idea to draft (with the 4th overall pick) a guy with a completely insignificant college resume who has, shockingly, bombed in the NFL.  Now they have repeated the avoidable mistake made by the Giants by vastly overpaying for the often injured, most mediocre regular starter in the league--who's "best" season was filled with backup QB stats.

 

But by all means yes, let's give appropriate weight to the Colts' "beliefs"!  

 

Jones is Sam Bradford.

 

Bradford: 34-48, 19449 yards 103 TD/61 INT, $130 million 8 seasons

 

Jones: 32-49, 17683, 89 TD/55 INT, $123 million 7 seasons.

 

Colts are paying a minimum of 50 million this year for QB position.

 

[dave mcbride]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Darnold is an order of magnitude better than Jones--he's won 28 games on 2 different teams in the past 2 years. Jones has led his teams to 32 wins in 7 years.

 

Now we're bringing the Colts "beliefs" into this?  The Colts believed, after Luck headed for the hills, that it was a good idea to trot out Brissett, Rivers, Wentz, Matt Ryan and Minshew as starters in successive years.  Finally waking up and realizing they may have a problem at QB, they believed it was a great idea to draft (with the 4th overall pick) a guy with a completely insignificant college resume who has, shockingly, bombed in the NFL.  Now they have repeated the avoidable mistake made by the Giants by vastly overpaying for the often injured, most mediocre regular starter in the league--who's "best" season was filled with backup QB stats.

 

But by all means yes, let's give appropriate weight to the Colts' "beliefs"!  

 

Jones is Sam Bradford.

 

Bradford: 34-48, 19449 yards 103 TD/61 INT, $130 million 8 seasons

 

Jones: 32-49, 17683, 89 TD/55 INT, $123 million 7 seasons.

 

Colts are paying a minimum of 50 million this year for QB position.

 

I'm done here. Check back with me in early January.

[machine gun kelly]

The Indy HC made the most of him until the injury.  The contract makes sense.  2nd tier $ and see what happens.