Simon Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Unless you're a troll, it seems to be universally accepted that almost everybody wants players to protect themselves, whether it's for their own good or for the good of the league and the sport itself. Yet immediately after Romeo Doubs signed with NE I see a whole lot of Twitter wits (i.e. Twits) making fun of the guy for doing exactly what those same folks claim to believe he should be doing. That's clearly bush league bullshlt and I fully expect it from ignorant hypocrites like that. But I'd like to see this crew be better and rise above it. Making fun of players for doing something that's both good for themselves and their families does nothing but contribute to a sneering culture that pressures guys to not do those things to avoid being mocked by the increasingly snotty, cynical society that we're unfortunately becoming. Be good, do good, god bless and go Bills... 13 1 4 21 5 20 Quote
iccrewman112 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I am shocked guardian caps are not worn by the vast majority of players. 5 5 1 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Simon said: Unless you're a troll, it seems to be universally accepted that almost everybody wants players to protect themselves, whether it's for their own good or for the good of the league and the sport itself. Yet immediately after Romeo Doubs signed with NE I see a whole lot of Twitter wits (i.e. Twits) making fun of the guy for doing exactly what those same folks claim to believe he should be doing. That's clearly bush league bullshlt and I fully expect it from ignorant hypocrites like that. But I'd like to see this crew be better and rise above it. Making fun of players for doing something that's both good for themselves and their families does nothing but contribute to a sneering culture that pressures guys to not do those things to avoid being mocked by the increasingly snotty, cynical society that we're unfortunately becoming. Be good, do good, god bless and go Bills... C'mon, it's just a joke. It's perfectly fine for the fella to look after his health. I think nearly everyone would acknowledge that. 4 1 Quote
LetJamesCook Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Unfortunately people always make fun of what they perceive to be different 2 4 2 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I think it’s fair but it’s all in good fun. I think it’s like any other comedy, it’s satire and it’s silly and stupid but its fun. Nobody actually wants the guy to get hurt. Also side note, there are a bunch of studies out there that say guardian caps don’t work. I spoke to a guy at Riddell and he says there is legislature out there that wearing a guardian cap voids the helmet’s warranty. It’s not how the helmet was designed and tested. When you add that extra piece they claim it makes the helmet less safe. So if somebody gets hurt wearing a helmet or it breaks or something and they were wearing a guardian cap, they would not be covered. There is all kinds of insurance hoopla going on. It’s just the NFL and youth football’s BS way to convince people that football is safer now. 1 1 Quote
Simon Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: C'mon, it's just a joke. It's perfectly fine for the fella to look after his health. I think nearly everyone would acknowledge that. You don't think the widespread mocking of guys wearing Guardian Caps contributes to the reluctance of many players to do so? 4 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Simon said: You don't think the widespread mocking of guys wearing Guardian Caps contributes to the reluctance of many players to do so? Yes, that's fair I suppose. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 10 Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: I am shocked guardian caps are not worn by the vast majority of players. Im surprised they arent mandatory 3 Quote
Einstein Posted March 10 Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: I am shocked guardian caps are not worn by the vast majority of players. Me too. I'm also surprised they haven't figured out a way to make them look a little better. I think more players would wear them if they didn't look like a faded shirt stretched over the helmet. 1 2 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Simon said: You don't think the widespread mocking of guys wearing Guardian Caps contributes to the reluctance of many players to do so? I do,and I am with you its asinine. Quote
Pre1236 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 If you told me wearing a guardian cap would extend my life by 10 years (while enjoying better physical and mental health) well, then, I’m dying 10 years sooner. 1 9 Quote
Simon Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think it’s fair but it’s all in good fun. I think it’s like any other comedy, it’s satire and it’s silly and stupid but its fun. Nobody actually wants the guy to get hurt. Also side note, there are a bunch of studies out there that say guardian caps don’t work. I spoke to a guy at Riddell and he says there is legislature out there that wearing a guardian cap voids the helmet’s warranty. It’s not how the helmet was designed and tested. When you add that extra piece they claim it makes the helmet less safe. So if somebody gets hurt wearing a helmet or it breaks or something and they were wearing a guardian cap, they would not be covered. There is all kinds of insurance hoopla going on. It’s just the NFL and youth football’s BS way to convince people that football is safer now. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10650906/ An average reduction of head impact severity of nearly 10% when wearing one, and upwards of 20% when both players are wearing one. 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) With such great technology, you’d think they could vastly improve shock absorbtion with the helps of a memory foam like tempurpedic inside the helmet? Edited March 10 by Warriorspikes51 Quote
Simon Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, Pre1236 said: If you told me wearing a guardian cap would extend my life by 10 years (while enjoying better physical and mental health) well, then, I’m dying 10 years sooner. I'm sure those who know you well would be heartbroken. 1 5 Quote
Mojo44 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Simon said: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10650906/ An average reduction of head impact severity of nearly 10% when wearing one, and upwards of 20% when both players are wearing one. I absolutely agree. And that’s interesting data. It’s funny that you never hear anybody making fun of baseball catchers who wear that dangling little throat protector. Or even batters who wear ankle and elbow guards. 1 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Simon said: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10650906/ An average reduction of head impact severity of nearly 10% when wearing one, and upwards of 20% when both players are wearing one. The one that gets me is the take of "it's so minimal, it's not even worth it". I don't care if it's 3% and they have to wear something that makes them look even more "dumb" - you do it. 1 Quote
Jay_Fixit Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I always put a guardian cap on at least one of my drafted rookies in Madden just to contribute to the cause. Big G-cap guy here. Quote
Slack_in_MA Posted March 10 Posted March 10 They’re probably the modern day equivalents to the first hockey goalies to wear masks. 1 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Simon said: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10650906/ An average reduction of head impact severity of nearly 10% when wearing one, and upwards of 20% when both players are wearing one. So everything I have read and heard is that it reduce blunt force impact to the head. But concussions are cause by the brain rattling around inside the skull. That impact isn’t reduced. https://guardiansports.com/faq-items/do-guardian-caps-reduce-concussions/ From guardians website… Do Guardian Caps reduce concussions? No helmet, practice apparatus, or helmet pad can prevent or eliminate the risk of concussions or other serious head injuries while playing sports. Researchers have not reached an agreement on how the results of impact absorption tests relate to concussions. No conclusions about a reduction of risk or severity of concussive injury should be drawn from impact absorption tests. Guardian has always stood by the fact that Guardian Caps reduce the impact of hits and that its use should be one piece of the puzzle to an overall safety strategy. The NFL’s statements about a reduction in concussions is based on a qualified study that evaluated Guardian Caps NXT alongside additional protective measures, which collectively contributed to a reduction in concussions. Edited March 10 by MrEpsYtown 1 1 3 Quote
Shaw66 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: With such great technology, you’d think they could vastly improve shock absorbtion with the helps of a memory foam like tempurpedic inside the helmet? I don't know about memory foam, but I am surprised that there haven't been more developments. 2 Quote
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