aristocrat Posted April 4 Posted April 4 If he puts together a few 1000 plus yard seasons nobody cares about the second 2 Quote
Virgil Posted April 4 Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: If he puts together a few 1000 plus yard seasons nobody cares about the second I don’t care if he doesn’t catch a ball all season. If he makes one crucial catch in a playoff win that Diggs and Cooks can’t seem to do, then I’m happy. 1 2 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Virgil said: Do we know that other teams were bidding on them, or is that the smoke the Bears and Bills put out there? After seeing the Waddle trade, I’m better with the move. However, I do wonder if we were bidding against ourselves and could have gotten him for the initial rumored mid round pick. Bidding against ourselves makes zero sense and it was reported the Seahawks were interested in trading for him. My guess is the Bills needed to outbid at least them and maybe another team 1 Quote
Virgil Posted April 4 Posted April 4 8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Bidding against ourselves makes zero sense and it was reported the Seahawks were interested in trading for him. My guess is the Bills needed to outbid at least them and maybe another team Why does it make zero sense? The Bears aren’t going to be honest about other interest teams as they are trying to drive up value. So they could have easier led the Bills to believe they needed to up their offer Quote
Charles Romes Posted April 4 Posted April 4 56 minutes ago, Virgil said: I don’t care if he doesn’t catch a ball all season. If he makes one crucial catch in a playoff win that Diggs and Cooks can’t seem to do, then I’m happy. if he makes Shakir resemble the #2 which he was when Cooper was on the field the trade was worth it. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted April 4 Posted April 4 10 hours ago, LetsGoRed said: Random NFL exec claims Moore was going to be cut before the Bills trade offer came in: https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/onsi/news/new-evidence-shows-the-bears-trading-dj-moore-resulted-in-a-landslide-victory-01knbh3ha1pe Probably just someone stirring the pot. Who do you think it is? The comment section on the reddit thread on this is a good read. Bears fans all call BS on this. Say no way he'd be cut, it wouldnt save them any money. He was always going to be traded and there were multiple teams interested. It's a good read to get outsider perspective https://old.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1sbd8h3/anonymous_nfl_executive_dj_moore_was_gonna_get/ 4 2 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: The comment section on the reddit thread on this is a good read. Bears fans all call BS on this. Say no way he'd be cut, it wouldnt save them any money. He was always going to be traded and there were multiple teams interested. It's a good read to get outsider perspective https://old.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1sbd8h3/anonymous_nfl_executive_dj_moore_was_gonna_get/ Also... common sense. Market value is driven by supply and demand. As many WR-needy teams as there are in the league and as few quality WRs as are available tells you all you need to know. 4 1 Quote
26TrapDraw Posted April 5 Posted April 5 13 hours ago, LetsGoRed said: Random NFL exec claims Moore was going to be cut before the Bills trade offer came in: https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/onsi/news/new-evidence-shows-the-bears-trading-dj-moore-resulted-in-a-landslide-victory-01knbh3ha1pe Probably just someone stirring the pot. Who do you think it is? I’m gonna go with A dooshnozzle 2 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted April 5 Posted April 5 8 hours ago, Virgil said: Why does it make zero sense? The Bears aren’t going to be honest about other interest teams as they are trying to drive up value. So they could have easier led the Bills to believe they needed to up their offer I'm sorry but do you honestly think this is how the NFL works? Yes... these guys are competing against one another. It's also a very small community. If Chicago's GM were to lie to Beane and say that another team (in this case the team was later reported, which is why what you said makes zero sense) offered something just to drive up the price but it was a complete bluff, Beane would follow up with other GMs after and if it was truly a bluff, that GM would be blackballed. If the Bills were actually bidding against themselves, you're going to see GMs completely ostracize Chicago from future deals. Unless the Chicago GM is a complete moron, he would never do that. 1 2 Quote
Virgil Posted April 5 Posted April 5 52 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I'm sorry but do you honestly think this is how the NFL works? Yes... these guys are competing against one another. It's also a very small community. If Chicago's GM were to lie to Beane and say that another team (in this case the team was later reported, which is why what you said makes zero sense) offered something just to drive up the price but it was a complete bluff, Beane would follow up with other GMs after and if it was truly a bluff, that GM would be blackballed. If the Bills were actually bidding against themselves, you're going to see GMs completely ostracize Chicago from future deals. Unless the Chicago GM is a complete moron, he would never do that. Honestly, yeah, I kinda do. They don’t owe each other anything. I think you’re also correct in that they do sometimes share info and build relationships, but it’s still a performance based job. Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I'm sorry but do you honestly think this is how the NFL works? Yes... these guys are competing against one another. It's also a very small community. If Chicago's GM were to lie to Beane and say that another team (in this case the team was later reported, which is why what you said makes zero sense) offered something just to drive up the price but it was a complete bluff, Beane would follow up with other GMs after and if it was truly a bluff, that GM would be blackballed. If the Bills were actually bidding against themselves, you're going to see GMs completely ostracize Chicago from future deals. Unless the Chicago GM is a complete moron, he would never do that. They don't need to lie and say that. They can just say "we have had other calls" which I'm 100% sure they will have had because trade calls are made all the time. They don't need to lie and make out they have firm offers. They can leverage interest, the Bills had a known level of desperation. That is standard NFL practice. NFL GMs do bluff each other all the time though. I always remember Jeff Fisher talking about when the Titans wanted to take McNair (I think 3rd overall). The team ahead of them rang them and said "give us a 4th to come up because we have interest from other teams." The Titans called the bluff, the team ahead picked and then Tennessee picked McNair. Edited April 5 by GunnerBill 1 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted April 5 Posted April 5 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They don't need to lie and say that. They can just say "we have had other calls" which I'm 100% sure they will have had because trade calls are made all the time. They don't need to lie and make out they have firm offers. They can leverage interest, the Bills had a known level of desperation. That is standard NFL practice. NFL GMs do bluff each other all the time though. I always remember Jeff Fisher talking about when the Titans wanted to take McNair (I think 3rd overall). The team ahead of them rang them and said "give us a 4th to come up because we have interest from other teams." The Titans called the bluff, the team ahead picked and then Tennessee picked McNair. That’s true but also very often the player’s agent is involved and has different incentives than the trading team. Agents are a valuable (though also sometimes shady) conduit of information during situations like the Moore trade. 1 Quote
colin Posted April 5 Posted April 5 we have some kind of story both ways, either beane got bluffed and paid like a round to early of a pick, or he paid what he had to to get the deal done. beane traded up with a couple of moves to draft josh allen when the loudest draft voices (and many on this board) said josh rosen was better and allen would suck. there are a lot of morons in this business, and even more in the world around it. when i see fingers extended pointing at each other accusing the other of moronism, i side with the person who made the josh allen trade happen, and against the person who said josh allen would suck and josh rosen would be good. i cannot think of a more wrong take at the most important position in the game. also, brady loves moore and worked with him and kept in touch. based on all of the above i think it's safe to assume that the bills brain trust was at least fairly if not more than fairly informed about this matter and made their decision in the presence of this information. of course, i also think a large number of the roster moves made before this year were heavily influenced by mcdermott, most particularly on the defensive side of the ball. now, i could be totally wrong about all of this, but that will play out when mcd gets another head coaching job of his choice and is successful there, which i was assured is happening any day now. 1 1 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 6 hours ago, Virgil said: Honestly, yeah, I kinda do. They don’t owe each other anything. I think you’re also correct in that they do sometimes share info and build relationships, but it’s still a performance based job. That’s Hollywood B.S. The NFL is a fraternity. Yes it’s performance based but it’s more so relationship based, it’s why so many men stay in the league once they are part of it. 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted April 5 Posted April 5 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I'm sorry but do you honestly think this is how the NFL works? Yes... these guys are competing against one another. It's also a very small community. If Chicago's GM were to lie to Beane and say that another team (in this case the team was later reported, which is why what you said makes zero sense) offered something just to drive up the price but it was a complete bluff, Beane would follow up with other GMs after and if it was truly a bluff, that GM would be blackballed. If the Bills were actually bidding against themselves, you're going to see GMs completely ostracize Chicago from future deals. Unless the Chicago GM is a complete moron, he would never do that. you don’t get blackballed for bluffing in a poker match. That said, Chicagos GM could get future bluffs called if it becomes a common move. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 6 Posted April 6 On 4/4/2026 at 7:12 PM, transplantbillsfan said: Bidding against ourselves makes zero sense and it was reported the Seahawks were interested in trading for him. My guess is the Bills needed to outbid at least them and maybe another team The Patriots also wanted Moore, one of their reports mentioned it after the trade Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 6 Posted April 6 On 4/5/2026 at 3:41 AM, transplantbillsfan said: If Chicago's GM were to lie to Beane and say that another team (in this case the team was later reported, which is why what you said makes zero sense) offered something just to drive up the price but it was a complete bluff, Beane would follow up with other GMs after and if it was truly a bluff, that GM would be blackballed. Wait, somehow I misssed this! Who was it, and do we know ballpark of their offer? Also, majorly agree. These two GMs do great business together and are obviously close. Few trades completed, joint practices. The more of these mini bromance you can have the better! Relationship Management is EVERYTHING to a GM; with other GM's, Coaches, Players under contract. Can not be overstated On 4/4/2026 at 7:24 PM, Charles Romes said: if he makes Shakir resemble the #2 which he was when Cooper was on the field the trade was worth it. It makes everyone slide down. Which is why a solid draft pick at WR/trade for a younger guy (Addison!) is super important. Get that synergy charged upppp Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted June 3 Posted June 3 It seems the 2027 draft capital is climbing. Good on Beane for not giving that up. Beane did good with this trade. We can only hope it works out well for us. 1 1 Quote
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