Pecker Posted February 26 Posted February 26 I’m currently building out a bonus room, and plan to get a projector or huge flat screen for football games and movies. The room is big, enough where there could be a 12’ or 15’ picture with a projector. Other option is a 85-100” tv. But whenever I watch at a bar, the picture put out of a projector is dull and lower quality than the flatscreens. Maybe they are older, maybe the bar has too much light, or maybe projectors just can’t compare to TVs these days. Any advice is appreciated. 2 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Did up until 5-6 years ago. Needed to be dark like a movie theatre. Ended up buying an 80” tv 2 1 Quote
Psautcsk Posted February 26 Posted February 26 I watch them sometimes at night but not when it is light out. I was watching the Sabres game on it last night and it was really nice. The picture quality is decent but not as clear as tv. I highly recommend getting a projector especially for movies. Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, ***** said: I’m currently building out a bonus room, and plan to get a projector or huge flat screen for football games and movies. The room is big, enough where there could be a 12’ or 15’ picture with a projector. Other option is a 85-100” tv. But whenever I watch at a bar, the picture put out of a projector is dull and lower quality than the flatscreens. Maybe they are older, maybe the bar has too much light, or maybe projectors just can’t compare to TVs these days. Any advice is appreciated. Go for the big screen TV. You'll have to spend a ton to get a high quality projector, but the viewing screen that you would need, is made from very highly reflective materials, and a good one, would be quite expensive. I viewed a 120" projection setup that was quite impressive, but very expensive. In my home, I have an 80" screen in the master bedroom, and an 86" in the living room, hooked up to a 280 watt Mcintosh audio system. It is a great viewing/listening experience! It also depends on your viewing room. Is it massive? My living room, is 15'X30', with 9 ft. ceilings. The master bedroom, is about the same size. Viewing distance, should be your final determination. Don't go 'cheap', if you decide on a projection system! Edited February 26 by BUFFALOBART 1 Quote
Pecker Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 The room is 20x20 with high ceilings. An 85-100” tv is like $1000-1200, so I am using that number as my budget for the projector. I found a true 4k projector for 950 and could go one step up for about 1200. I was just gonna shoot the picture onto the drywall. also don’t know about sound, I’d probably need some kinda speaker setup for the projector, but I’ve always been fine with just tv speakers Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted February 26 Posted February 26 3 minutes ago, ***** said: The room is 20x20 with high ceilings. An 85-100” tv is like $1000-1200, so I am using that number as my budget for the projector. I found a true 4k projector for 950 and could go one step up for about 1200. I was just gonna shoot the picture onto the drywall. also don’t know about sound, I’d probably need some kinda speaker setup for the projector, but I’ve always been fine with just tv speakers Consult with a professional audio/video dealership. (Where are you located?) You need to have an audition, of a good projection system. You are likely to be disappointed, if you buy a system 'off of the rack'. Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Just now, BUFFALOBART said: Consult with a professional audio/video dealership. (Where are you located?) You need to have an audition, of a good projection system. You are likely to be disappointed, if you buy a system 'off of the rack'. Do some research, to see if there is specialized paint that would create the necessary reflectivity, if you are going to bypass purchasing a screen. Surround the painted screen area, with a full set of drapes, or paint a black rectangle around the screen viewing area. There will be excessive flare/loss of contrast, if you project on a simple white wall. Quote
Breakout Squad Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) I’d just buy a huge tv. Don’t worry about getting a top of the line brand. By the time you need a new tv the prices will be even cheaper. Just looked on Amazon there’s a 85 inch for $600. That’s so cheap. Edited February 26 by Breakout Squad 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) Peck, they have 98inch high def flat TV’s. I don’t know why you would need more. They have really monstrous ones, but they are $17-25,000. At some point, big is big. Projectors are never going to be the same. I think you can get a nice quality 98 inch for a grand. My wife and I have downsized to a condo as I’m done with managing a home. I’m good with my 60’s. Just my two cents brother. Enjoy the high black high def., top quality etc… Besides, if you really want to see on a projector, AMC down here has the games on Sundays to offset their declining movie tix. I went once just for fun. I found it to be ok, but would rather just be on the couch. Edited February 26 by machine gun kelly Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted February 26 Posted February 26 3 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: I’d just buy a huge tv. Don’t worry about getting a top of the line brand. By the time you need a new tv the prices will be even cheaper. Just looked on Amazon there’s a 85 inch for $600. That’s so cheap. I viewed a 50" Plasma TV, quite a few years ago, and was very impressed. it was $5000.00! Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) 40 minutes ago, ***** said: The room is 20x20 with high ceilings. An 85-100” tv is like $1000-1200, so I am using that number as my budget for the projector. I found a true 4k projector for 950 and could go one step up for about 1200. I was just gonna shoot the picture onto the drywall. also don’t know about sound, I’d probably need some kinda speaker setup for the projector, but I’ve always been fine with just tv speakers I use a Mcintosh Stereo system for my audio. Sky is the limit for audio solutions, and 'bigger', is most certainly better.($$$) If you have a stereo system, it is fairly easy to adapt it to your big screen TV, and a projector would have the appropriate audio inputs. Lack of satisfactory brightness/contrast, would be the issue with the less expensive projection systems. Personally, I'd go for an 86", or a 98" size TV. (Getting to 100", seems to be a major uptick in price, from what I have seen lately) Edited February 26 by BUFFALOBART Quote
jayg Posted February 26 Posted February 26 10 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: I viewed a 50" Plasma TV, quite a few years ago, and was very impressed. it was $5000.00! Plasmas are long gone. I still have 4, their refresh rate and contrast are hard to beat but no 4k. I've preordered the be AWOL UST 4K projector so looking forward to setting that up with a 150" screen. Also have an 85" Panasonic micro LED which is solid. I've mentioned in another thread about Hisense and TCL and they are Chinese companies that have gained a lot of market share. No thank you for me. Anything with a native 60 refresh rate is terrible for sports, IMO. To note, Sony and Panasonic will be more Chinese than Japanese in the future, they sold out. Quote
Pecker Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 39 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: . You are likely to be disappointed, if you buy a system 'off of the rack'. Ha- I was basically looking on Amazon! 1 minute ago, jayg said: Plasmas are long gone. I still have 4, their refresh rate and contrast are hard to beat but no 4k. I've preordered the be AWOL UST 4K projector so looking forward to setting that up with a 150" screen. Also have an 85" Panasonic micro LED which is solid. I've mentioned in another thread about Hisense and TCL and they are Chinese companies that have gained a lot of market share. No thank you for me. Anything with a native 60 refresh rate is terrible for sports, IMO. To note, Sony and Panasonic will be more Chinese than Japanese in the future, they sold out. Have you had projectors before? I had one many years ago and watched games on them. But that was maybe 2006 and TVs have come a long way since the boob tubes. 1 Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted February 26 Posted February 26 1 minute ago, ***** said: Ha- I was basically looking on Amazon! Read a lot of reviews! Quote
rusty shackleford Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) Yeah I built a basement home theater during Covid. It’s very high quality but it is also fully light controlled. 135 inch screen with an Epson projector that uses two 1080p chips to create a 4K image that is just a slight notch down in quality compared to a real 4K chip… but a lot cheaper Edited February 26 by rusty shackleford 3 Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jayg said: Plasmas are long gone. I still have 4, their refresh rate and contrast are hard to beat but no 4k. I've preordered the be AWOL UST 4K projector so looking forward to setting that up with a 150" screen. Also have an 85" Panasonic micro LED which is solid. I've mentioned in another thread about Hisense and TCL and they are Chinese companies that have gained a lot of market share. No thank you for me. Anything with a native 60 refresh rate is terrible for sports, IMO. To note, Sony and Panasonic will be more Chinese than Japanese in the future, they sold out. Right. I was just pointing out the expense, of those early Plasma TV's, vs. today's prices. The refresh rate on those old plasma's was superior to most LCD TV's. I also remember paying $600 for a 15" CRT computer screen, back in the mid '90's. Edited February 26 by BUFFALOBART 1 Quote
Pecker Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 3 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Read a lot of reviews! Here’s the two I was considering, that’s what AI recommends lol https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-Projector-Keystone-Streaming-PX701-4K/dp/B08L9SM2DK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pBWAVZGAZoyeZglO-cnxmorTMmm6_HeXmyvWk1Vl1Lj_keViX7lb7fVl6abnClSUpALuNyoh3tCkVPoRJO4AbVLZZqiy9TJYZRtdHe_Cn7mO8vAUYQGSPZIG5-xZ_s54n2SkyzQW6XIsF0J4fikRpIOeoU_eimX2MLUzJs3NHvzq--rlEPt7I2jbAPzpfbI1yPvT-ZBUIjcVfcdo4dT8AQ.WfJJsDzTRJWnQPbrSyUCbpqXsgF43YBot_VUCLhxB9o&dib_tag=se&keywords=ViewSonic+PX701-4K&qid=1772070267&s=electronics&sr=1-3-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.5998aa40-ec6f-4947-a68f-cd087fee0848&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1 Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Just now, ***** said: Here’s the two I was considering, that’s what AI recommends lol 240, is a good refresh rate! The higher rate of Lumens, is something else to pay attention to. Quote
rusty shackleford Posted February 27 Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, jayg said: Plasmas are long gone. I still have 4, their refresh rate and contrast are hard to beat but no 4k. I've preordered the be AWOL UST 4K projector so looking forward to setting that up with a 150" screen. Also have an 85" Panasonic micro LED which is solid. I've mentioned in another thread about Hisense and TCL and they are Chinese companies that have gained a lot of market share. No thank you for me. Anything with a native 60 refresh rate is terrible for sports, IMO. To note, Sony and Panasonic will be more Chinese than Japanese in the future, they sold out. I still have my Panasonic plasma but moved it to the bedroom when it started to get some slight discoloration issues in the one corner. Couldn’t beat the contrast and black levels of the top of the line pana plasmas back around 2012. The new OLEDs do really well though. I now have a 77 inch LG OLED in my family room and very happy with it. 2 Quote
Pecker Posted February 27 Author Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, rusty shackleford said: Yeah I built a basement home theater during Covid. It’s very high quality but it is also fully light controlled. 135 inch screen with an Epson projector that uses to 1080p chips to create a 4K image that is just a slight notch down in quality compared to a real 4K chip… but a lot cheaper Do you watch bills games on it? I’m wondering if you can read the names on the jerseys and see if people’s toe taps are in or out.l etc 3 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: 240, is a good refresh rate! The higher rate of Lumens, is something else to pay attention to. Yea that’s what I’m learning. 3200 isn’t the highest but how much better is 4000? im not sure what refresh rate is really, whats a minimum I should stay above? I was trying to stick with 4k over 1080, but I’m not even sure if antenna TV broadcasts or the streaming services are even in 4k Quote
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