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On 2/17/2026 at 8:45 AM, Captain Hindsight said:

Gronk should probably be 1st ballot


Gronk should definitely be first ballot.

There is an argument to be made that he is the best TE of all time. 

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On 2/18/2026 at 9:12 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Joe Namath is one of the most disrespected quarterbacks of all time cuz people just look at stats but not the era or play style 

 

He literally was on a different level than 95% of the quarterbacks from that era...

 

First Person to throw for 4,000 yards 

 

Led football and passing yards three times 

 

Led completion's twice

 

Led touchdowns once

 

Led yards per game three times

 

Most game-winning drives four times 

 

Led the league in sack percentage 

 

Led yards per attempt twice

 

Retired with the most passing yards per game 

 

And won the Super bowl when nobody gave the Jets a chance 

 

The dude is absolutely a Hall of famer ... The ball left Joe Namath's hand different than 95% of quarterbacks from his era

 

Any player with those accolades of leading the league in those categories as much as he did are Hall of famers

 

 

Someone who knew Namath once said you had to differentiate between the healthy Joe (college, early pro) with the unhealthy, unsteady-on-his-legs Namath of later years.  Healthy Namath, he argued, was an all-time great.  Unhealthy Namath was bad.  

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4 hours ago, Einstein said:


Gronk should definitely be first ballot.

There is an argument to be made that he is the best TE of all time. 

It all depends on your opinion of what makes someone the best. 

 

Gronk is probably the best all around TE for sure. His blocking is equally as good as his receiving. 

 

Antonio Gates is the best pure receiver i’ve seen at TE. Better red zone threat as well with 24 more TDs than Gronk. 

 

It’s really a toss up between these 2 in what your preference is building your team. I’m picking Gronk if i have a more balanced offense with a high quality run game and decent QB. If i had a team with an elite QB + passing offense  I am picking arguably the biggest mismatch in NFL history Gates. 

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Eli is the Hall of Very Good, not the HoF. The Tyree catch and Wes Welker dropping a ball he catches 100 of 100 attempts are what gave him 2 SB wins. Kurt Warner is similar. Not really HoF material. 

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On 2/20/2026 at 11:59 PM, Breakout Squad said:

Did Johnson, Dilfer, Hurts, Foles, or Flacco win 2 Super Bowls as a starting QB?  Were any of them voted SB MVP twice?

Want me to give you a list of Super Bowl MVP’s? It ain’t as prestigious as you think!

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