Gregg Posted February 17 Posted February 17 https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/giants-legend-eli-manning-could-get-shut-out-of-hall-again-in-2027/ar-AA1WtxeR?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=699467c922ae49f1b82a772feea0a309&ei=14 There are only 3 QB's who have won multiple Super Bowls and are not in the HOF. Jim Plunkett Ben (eligible in 2027) - he will get in Eli Eli had a good career with the Giants, but I don't know if he is HOF worthy. Those Giants defenses shut down the evil empire twice which was the key to winning the games. 1 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted February 17 Posted February 17 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/giants-legend-eli-manning-could-get-shut-out-of-hall-again-in-2027/ar-AA1WtxeR?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=699467c922ae49f1b82a772feea0a309&ei=14 There are only 3 QB's who have won multiple Super Bowls and are not in the HOF. Jim Plunkett Ben (eligible in 2027) - he will get in Eli Eli had a good career with the Giants, but I don't know if he is HOF worthy. Those Giants defenses shut down the evil empire twice which was the key to winning the games. Eli should get in imo but he shouldn’t have been first ballot. It’s kinda funny because I think if he wasn’t a Manning he probably shouldn’t but that’s how it goes. 1 3 Quote
dcinmuncie Posted February 17 Posted February 17 very mediocre qb carried by excellent defense on two runs. doesn't pass the eye test to me. within those two superbowls, i will hand it to him. he had two iconic throws. just unreal plays. that said, had his last name been anything but Manning, this would likely not be a discussion. i think he eventually gets in, but to me he doesn't pass the eye test. 2 3 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted February 17 Posted February 17 It would be funny if they elected Danny DiVito instead. 6 Quote
KingBoots8 Posted February 17 Posted February 17 I think he gets in. There’s QBs who accomplished less that made it. That being said, next year is not gonna be easy: Adrian Peterson Gronk Big Ben all 3 are eligible and I would bet 2 are first ballot. 2028 will have Tom Brady and JJ Watt who I both expect to be first ballot. …. Honestly, having Eli and Tom go in together would be hilarious. This would be my preferred outcome haha 2 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted February 17 Posted February 17 7 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: …. Honestly, having Eli and Tom go in together would be hilarious. This would be my preferred outcome haha lol In some ways, that’s kind of the argument right? Eli’s HoF case is kinda built on what team he beat. If he had beaten some random AFC team x2 and not the Pats/Brady, I think his case is even weaker. 1 Quote
RkFast Posted February 17 Posted February 17 If a nepo baby could be an NFL QB, Eli Manning would be it. 1 Quote
skibum Posted February 17 Posted February 17 I think he is a legend, but not truly a HOF quarterback. It wasn't like you always thought the Giants had a chance to win every game because they had Eli. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted February 17 Posted February 17 15 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: I think he gets in. There’s QBs who accomplished less that made it. That being said, next year is not gonna be easy: Adrian Peterson Gronk Big Ben all 3 are eligible and I would bet 2 are first ballot. 2028 will have Tom Brady and JJ Watt who I both expect to be first ballot. …. Honestly, having Eli and Tom go in together would be hilarious. This would be my preferred outcome haha Gronk should probably be 1st ballot, Peterson, with all his off the field stuff will probably wait a year. Same with Ben. I have lots of family in Pittsburgh who all tell me Ben was/is an ass and terrible person. I could see the hall waiting on him too Quote
Sweats Posted February 17 Posted February 17 Shame.........maybe his D can carry him to Canton, like they did on the field each season. 1 Quote
mjt328 Posted February 17 Posted February 17 In my opinion, the bias over Super Bowl rings really hurts the Hall of Fame selection process. Especially at the QB position. Guys who don't deserve it, end up getting in because their TEAM won a championship. Guys who do deserve it are shunned because their TEAM did not win a championship. Take away his last name and those two Lombardis (which were more due to the defensive side of the ball), and Eli Manning was a good/not great NFL quarterback for the majority of his career. He should be proud of his accomplishments. But nowhere remotely worthy of the Hall of Fame. That honor should be based on an entire career. Even his biggest supporters would never be able to make a case without the result of those two Super Bowl games. He was never even close to the level of the elites during that period of time (Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, etc.). He was a tier below guys like Ben Roethlisberger and even Philip Rivers (who probably won't make it). I don't even think Eli Manning was as good as Donovon McNabb or Tony Romo, who won't even get consideration. 2 2 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 17 Posted February 17 (edited) Eli is such an interesting HOF case to me. He has the “counting numbers” and 2 Super Bowls. At the same time, I’m not sure he was ever a top 5 QB. He was always behind Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rodgers, Big Ben, maybe Rivers, etc… His HOF case may look like Jalen Hurts’ case someday. If Hurts wins another, he will have 2 plus a loss where he was incredible. He will also end up with insane QB rushing numbers specifically to TDs. He will have some pro bowls and all pros sprinkled in there. I don’t know if anyone thinks of Jalen Hurts as a HOF guy but he will have some HOF accomplishments to support his case. Edited February 17 by Kirby Jackson 2 Quote
boyst Posted February 17 Posted February 17 Far lesser players made it. He's a QB so that's very important. He should be in because his role as the most important player position in those super bowls. But I also believe the HOF is Hall of overrated, over celebrated, and very good. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 17 Posted February 17 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Gregg said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/giants-legend-eli-manning-could-get-shut-out-of-hall-again-in-2027/ar-AA1WtxeR?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=699467c922ae49f1b82a772feea0a309&ei=14 There are only 3 QB's who have won multiple Super Bowls and are not in the HOF. Jim Plunkett Ben (eligible in 2027) - he will get in Eli Eli had a good career with the Giants, but I don't know if he is HOF worthy. Those Giants defenses shut down the evil empire twice which was the key to winning the games. Manning played lights out on those two SB playoff runs: 15 TDs, 2 INTs, 259YPG despite getting sacked 23 times. He led the deciding dives that ultimately won the SB, and he was MVP in both. He has to be in the HOF. A guy like Rivers should not be. Playoff dud. Stat padder. Choker HOF, maybe. Edited February 17 by Mr. WEO 3 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 17 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, boyst said: Far lesser players made it. He's a QB so that's very important. He should be in because his role as the most important player position in those super bowls. But I also believe the HOF is Hall of overrated, over celebrated, and very good. One thing to add to that, he played in, and won, arguably, the biggest Super Bowl in history. If you were to rank all Super Bowls and their significance, knocking off the undefeated Patriots is right at or near the top. It’s not like this year, no offense to Sam Darnold. When we talk about those HOF moments, that ranks alongside pretty much all of them. 3 Quote
Gregg Posted February 17 Author Posted February 17 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Manning played lights out on those two SB playoff runs: 15 TDs, 2 INTs, 259YPG despite getting sacked 23 times. He led the deciding dives that ultimately won the SB, and he was MVP in both. He has to be in the HOF. I give him credit for those playoff runs. The one year I believe the Giants went to the WC route and had to win three road games to get to the Super Bowl. I think Eli was a good QB but not a great one. He probably will get in eventually but if he doesn't, I won't be surprised either. Quote
Walking Tall Posted February 17 Posted February 17 At some point Peyton will make some noise about Eli not getting in and it will influence the voters. Quote
Gregg Posted February 17 Author Posted February 17 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: One thing to add to that, he played in, and won, arguably, the biggest Super Bowl in history. If you were to rank all Super Bowls and their significance, knocking off the undefeated Patriots is right at or near the top. It’s not like this year, no offense to Sam Darnold. When we talk about those HOF moments, that ranks alongside pretty much all of them. I would put Namath and the Jets beating the Colts in SB 3 at the top. That gave credibility to the AFL teams in competing with the NFL. 1 Quote
QCity Posted February 17 Posted February 17 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: At the same time, I’m not sure he was ever a top 5 QB. He was always behind Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rodgers, Big Ben In defense of Eli, all those QBs are heading to the HOF. He is definitely going to be a HUGE talking point for every Talking Head. 1 Quote
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