Chaos Posted February 13 Posted February 13 It’s almost like a lot of people don’t seem to know Fox was not hired as the head coach. 3 1 4 Quote
ngbills Posted February 13 Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Since my original post was disappeared by a mysterious entity - Fox was largely a terrible coach in his career. Take away being gifted Peyton Manning, and he has a .456 winning percentage, good for 135th all time. He never really seemed to overcome adversity or get anything extra out of his players that I can remember. Maybe they think he can be a mentor to both Brady and Leonhard? Here is the takes on him out there. Any of this look familiar... Many critics say Fox’s coaching style is overly cautious, especially offensively — preferring to avoid mistakes rather than aggressively pursue scoring opportunities. That conservative approach became a common criticism in multiple fanbases (e.g., Broncos playoff decisions) and is often cited as limiting his teams’ potential late in games. During his tenure with the Chicago Bears, Fox drew criticism for specific in-game decisions — such as challenge calls that backfired and other tactical choices that many perceived as errors. Some of these mistakes were highlighted as symptomatic of broader preparation or strategic issues. Some former Bears figures and fans felt that Fox wasn’t always open or engaging when dealing with the fanbase or media, leading to a perception that he didn’t always “respect” fans’ desire for information about the team. Some observers felt that Fox was less willing than modern coaches to lean into developing younger offensive talent, preferring established veterans and more traditional approaches, which could limit the growth of quarterbacks and other skilled players. 2 minutes ago, Chaos said: It’s almost like a lot of people don’t seem to know Fox was not hired as the head coach. This is what happens in February when there is nothing else to talk about Quote
ColoradoBills Posted February 13 Posted February 13 22 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Since my original post was disappeared by a mysterious entity - Fox was largely a terrible coach in his career. Take away being gifted Peyton Manning, and he has a .456 winning percentage, good for 135th all time. He never really seemed to overcome adversity or get anything extra out of his players that I can remember. Maybe they think he can be a mentor to both Brady and Leonhard? Manning was the only decent QB he had. Quote
BullBuchanan Posted February 13 Posted February 13 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Manning was the only decent QB he had. Jake Delhomme and Jay Cutler might not have been elite, but they were competent QBs who underperformed under fox. Delhomme's career win percentage is higher than Fox's. Quote
HappyDays Posted February 13 Posted February 13 22 minutes ago, ngbills said: Here is the takes on him out there. Any of this look familiar... Many critics say Fox’s coaching style is overly cautious, especially offensively — preferring to avoid mistakes rather than aggressively pursue scoring opportunities. That conservative approach became a common criticism in multiple fanbases (e.g., Broncos playoff decisions) and is often cited as limiting his teams’ potential late in games. During his tenure with the Chicago Bears, Fox drew criticism for specific in-game decisions — such as challenge calls that backfired and other tactical choices that many perceived as errors. Some of these mistakes were highlighted as symptomatic of broader preparation or strategic issues. Some former Bears figures and fans felt that Fox wasn’t always open or engaging when dealing with the fanbase or media, leading to a perception that he didn’t always “respect” fans’ desire for information about the team. Some observers felt that Fox was less willing than modern coaches to lean into developing younger offensive talent, preferring established veterans and more traditional approaches, which could limit the growth of quarterbacks and other skilled players. Damn. How much did FanDuel lower our win total by after this awful hire? 1 2 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted February 13 Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Jake Delhomme and Jay Cutler might not have been elite, but they were competent QBs who underperformed under fox. Delhomme's career win percentage is higher than Fox's. Jake started 6 games not under Fox and was 3-3. LOL. 1 Quote
Augie Posted February 13 Posted February 13 16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Manning was the only decent QB he had. I doubt Fox would hate being mentioned with a coach like Belichick. What did he do without Brady? 2 Quote
Billsfanatic8989 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Wasn't he like the McDermott of the Broncos where they had to fire him to win the Super Bowl? Yes. He went one and done twice and got obliterated in a SB. Went on to do nothing in Chicago. Quote
Rhode Island Red Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Hmm, I’m kinda just ok with this considering Fox was Denver’s version of McDermott. He took them deep into the playoffs every year but couldn’t get it done. Then they fired Fox and brought in Kubiak and immediately won the SB with the new coach…. So now we hope he learned exactly how not to do it??? 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Gotta be the most random hire in Bills FO history... 1 Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted February 13 Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Gotta be the most random hire in Bills FO history... Rex's Chaplain/Challenge Consultant Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Just now, Bermuda Triangle said: Rex's Chaplain/Challenge Consultant "The "Paster"! lol 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: Jake Delhomme and Jay Cutler might not have been elite, but they were competent QBs who underperformed under fox. Delhomme's career win percentage is higher than Fox's. That's because Delhomme left in 2010 and John Fox was stuck with Jimmy Clausen in a disaster of a 2-14 season. How can you even say Delhomme underperformed under Fox when all of his best years were under Fox in Carolina? He was a journeyman nobody until he ran into John Fox. And Fox only had one season (2015) with a healthy Cutler (he only played 5 games in 2016 and was out of the league by 2018), before his final season with a rookie Trubisky. Edited February 13 by TheBrownBear 1 2 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 13 Posted February 13 For a week or so now I have been thinking I really like what we have done but I wish we had a guy with HC experience on the staff. Just to help with the day to day…I love this 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, ngbills said: Here is the takes on him out there. Any of this look familiar... Many critics say Fox’s coaching style is overly cautious, especially offensively — preferring to avoid mistakes rather than aggressively pursue scoring opportunities. That conservative approach became a common criticism in multiple fanbases (e.g., Broncos playoff decisions) and is often cited as limiting his teams’ potential late in games. During his tenure with the Chicago Bears, Fox drew criticism for specific in-game decisions — such as challenge calls that backfired and other tactical choices that many perceived as errors. Some of these mistakes were highlighted as symptomatic of broader preparation or strategic issues. Some former Bears figures and fans felt that Fox wasn’t always open or engaging when dealing with the fanbase or media, leading to a perception that he didn’t always “respect” fans’ desire for information about the team. Some observers felt that Fox was less willing than modern coaches to lean into developing younger offensive talent, preferring established veterans and more traditional approaches, which could limit the growth of quarterbacks and other skilled players. This is what happens in February when there is nothing else to talk about The guys coaching style means nothing. He is there to help Brady get acclimated to the job. No one is going to change Brady and leonharts attacking style. 1 1 2 Quote
GG Posted February 13 Posted February 13 31 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Rex's Chaplain/Challenge Consultant 29 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: "The "Paster"! lol Not Paster, but Chaplin, good ole James Trapp. As if this isn't funny enough, James Trapp is listed as assistant director of player engagement/team chaplin. Charlie Chaplin. — Tim Graham (@ByTimGraham) November 29, 2015 1 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Great move! Brady can ask Fox what he would do in critical game situations and do the exact opposite. 4D chess right there Quote
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