transplantbillsfan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) These are just general ballpark frameworks based on what I've read and heard suggested. Also provided are the CAP hits for the next 2 years. Justin Jefferson 1st in 2026 + 1st & 4th in 2027 (I don’t know... could take more) 2026 CAP hit of $25.5m 2027 CAP hit of $43m (Whoa Nelly... in another thread I put the wrong 2026 CAP hit... misread it... big number) Marvin Harrison Jr Keon Coleman + 2nd in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $10m 2027 CAP hit of $11m Chris Olave 1st & 5th in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $16m (5th year option) 2027 CAP hit unknown... based on extension Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman + 3rd in 2026 + 7th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $4m 2027 CAP hit of $5m Jaylan Waddle 1st in 2026 + 3rd in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $12m 2027 CAP hit of $34m Brandon Aiyuk 5th in 2026 + conditional pick in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $15m 2027 CAP hit of $41m Personally, if we trade for Jefferson I will be 100% on board full go... but definitely an all-in move and I wonder if the assets plus the slightly downgraded player make up for it. To me Olave is the Goldilocks choice while Harrison Jr might be the sneaky best choice. What say you? Edited February 15 by transplantbillsfan 7 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: These are just general ballpark frameworks based on what I've read and heard suggested. Also provided are the CAP hits for the next 2 years. Justin Jefferson 1st in 2026 + 1st & 4th in 2027 (I don’t know... could take more) 2026 CAP hit of $39m 2027 CAP hit of $43m (Whoa Nelly... in another thread I put the wrong 2026 CAP hit... misread it... big number) Marvin Harrison Jr Keon Coleman + 2nd in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $10m 2027 CAP hit of $11m Chris Olave 1st & 5th in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $16m (5th year option) 2027 CAP hit unknown... based on extension Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman + 3rd in 2026 + 7th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $4m 2027 CAP hit of $5m Personally, if we trade for Jefferson I will be 100% on board full go... but definitely an all-in move and I wonder if the assets plus the slightly downgraded player make up for it. To me Olave is the Goldilocks choice while Harrison Jr might be the sneaky best choice. What say you? You're on something else if you think the cost for Marvin Harrison Jr. on a Rookie contract, just 2 years removed from being taken 4th overall is just Keon Coleman, a 2nd, and a 4th. It would take multiple 1sts. Edited February 8 by BillsFanForever19 4 7 1 Quote
Victory Formation Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Only a RD3 pick for BTJ????? Yes, please.. 2 Quote
Rochesterfan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 27 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: These are just general ballpark frameworks based on what I've read and heard suggested. Also provided are the CAP hits for the next 2 years. Justin Jefferson 1st in 2026 + 1st & 4th in 2027 (I don’t know... could take more) 2026 CAP hit of $39m 2027 CAP hit of $43m (Whoa Nelly... in another thread I put the wrong 2026 CAP hit... misread it... big number) Marvin Harrison Jr Keon Coleman + 2nd in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $10m 2027 CAP hit of $11m Chris Olave 1st & 5th in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $16m (5th year option) 2027 CAP hit unknown... based on extension Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman + 3rd in 2026 + 7th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $4m 2027 CAP hit of $5m Personally, if we trade for Jefferson I will be 100% on board full go... but definitely an all-in move and I wonder if the assets plus the slightly downgraded player make up for it. To me Olave is the Goldilocks choice while Harrison Jr might be the sneaky best choice. What say you? Sorry your costs are way off and really none of these are even realistic. The Jaguars are not trading BTJ to us ever and especially not for Keon and a 3rd. We just knocked them out of the playoffs and people think they are going to give us a potential weapon. The Saints made the decision last season to build around Olave - they traded their other WRs - they are not letting him go - probably the biggest pipe dream out there. Minnesota has no incentive to trade JJ this off season. They need to figure out if McCarthy is a QB or are they drafting one next year and the best way to figure that out is with both WRs they have. Then they can flip one or both WRs at either the trade deadline or 2027 draft to move up for the QB of their choice. I know people want to believe we will get him, but the chance is so slim as to not be seen. MHJ has the best chance to get moved of those on the list, but they have a new staff coming in and you would expect them to try and build around talent and he has talent. My guess is he is still a Cardinal in 2026 and they will also decide on him going into the 2027 draft where the talent should be better. With a projected weak offensive draft in 2026 - I think most teams will hold on to their assets until 2027 and we will hear a great story about how Beane was in on a lot of guys, but nothing shook free. The most likely signings are a mid level FA WR (Doubs or maybe Evans) at lesser money and a mid round WR 3rd or 4th. With high picks used or traded to cover the defensive needs like a big time OLB/DE. Edited February 8 by Rochesterfan 6 3 2 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Brian Thomas Jr looks like a bargain at that price. I'm a value shopper. 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 8 Posted February 8 27 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: These are just general ballpark frameworks based on what I've read and heard suggested. Also provided are the CAP hits for the next 2 years. Justin Jefferson 1st in 2026 + 1st & 4th in 2027 (I don’t know... could take more) 2026 CAP hit of $39m 2027 CAP hit of $43m (Whoa Nelly... in another thread I put the wrong 2026 CAP hit... misread it... big number) Marvin Harrison Jr Keon Coleman + 2nd in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $10m 2027 CAP hit of $11m Chris Olave 1st & 5th in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $16m (5th year option) 2027 CAP hit unknown... based on extension Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman + 3rd in 2026 + 7th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $4m 2027 CAP hit of $5m Personally, if we trade for Jefferson I will be 100% on board full go... but definitely an all-in move and I wonder if the assets plus the slightly downgraded player make up for it. To me Olave is the Goldilocks choice while Harrison Jr might be the sneaky best choice. What say you? The two WRs I'm looking to trade for are either BTJ or Michael Pittman. FWIW, I don't see Jefferson, Harrison or Olave being moved at all this offseason. I think it's more likely the Vikings bring in a new QB. I don't see the GM that drafted Harrison moving him yet and Olave is set to re-sign with the Saints. 1 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Jefferson. Josh getting a top 3 WR to throw to is worth the price. Are we trying to win a Super Bowl or not? Don’t mess around, get the big dog. 3 2 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I have no interest in Brian Thomas. He didn’t wanna get hit and he’s honestly not that good. I don’t even want him period let alone after giving up something. I’d be interested in the other 3 2 Quote
MJS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Keon Coleman has no trade value. Why even include him? 1 2 2 1 3 Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: These are just general ballpark frameworks based on what I've read and heard suggested. Also provided are the CAP hits for the next 2 years. Justin Jefferson 1st in 2026 + 1st & 4th in 2027 (I don’t know... could take more) 2026 CAP hit of $39m 2027 CAP hit of $43m (Whoa Nelly... in another thread I put the wrong 2026 CAP hit... misread it... big number) Marvin Harrison Jr Keon Coleman + 2nd in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $10m 2027 CAP hit of $11m Chris Olave 1st & 5th in 2026 + 4th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $16m (5th year option) 2027 CAP hit unknown... based on extension Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman + 3rd in 2026 + 7th in 2027 2026 CAP hit of $4m 2027 CAP hit of $5m Personally, if we trade for Jefferson I will be 100% on board full go... but definitely an all-in move and I wonder if the assets plus the slightly downgraded player make up for it. To me Olave is the Goldilocks choice while Harrison Jr might be the sneaky best choice. What say you? (EDIT: Brandon Aiyuk should be in here. He's high risk but very high reward... I just don't know compensation) Give me both trades for BTJ and MHJ for that cheap I'll take both of them. Instead of giving Coleman on the other deal I'll give the other team a 3rd next yr. Plus we keep our firsts oh nelly that's incredible. But with that being said I believe BTJ will go for a 1st and I would still do that . MHJ I'm not so sure about what they want for him but it would definitely be at least a couple of 2s or even a first. If not I don't believe it's worth it to give him up they might as well hope he develops in his 3rd yr. When it comes to BTJ there's no doubt he's going for a 1st he had 1400yds as a rookie and was one of the best Wrs in the NFL that yr plus Jville is looking to recoup a first they used in the Hunter deal and they have one of the best Wr cores in the NFL so BTJ can be had go get him Beans. 1 Quote
ganesh Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I would do the trade for Harrison or Thomas as they would be cost controlled for next two years. Olave will be a good fit. I still think Rasheed Shaeed is most like the one on the Bills horizon 1 Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 8 Posted February 8 47 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I have no interest in Brian Thomas. He didn’t wanna get hit and he’s honestly not that good. I don’t even want him period let alone after giving up something. I’d be interested in the other 3 This was a big misconception from the media and Jags fan base . Those plays everyone seen was the result of him and Lawrence not being on the same page. Btw I've seen the Jags play alot and Lawrence puts his wrs in danger quite often so even if this is true to an extent BTJ was being smart and didn't want to get injured. It easy to say he doesn't want to get hit but what's not easy is possibly putting your career on the line for 1 catch. BTJ never had a problem going over the middle while he was at LSU and during his rookie yr there was plenty of games where Mac Jones targeted him 12 to 17 times in a game. BTJ role changed last yr Coen was basically just using him as a deep threat most of the time instead of using him as a true X 1 like he's supposed to be. I hope people think that story is true because if it is he could be had for cheap and would make a trade for him that much better for us. 😂 Quote
Sojourner Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Personally, Olave. Probably not as much of a haul being requested as Jefferson and you’re going right into a new contract with him. I also feel Olave is an absolute elite WR. The salary for that one year allows you to figure out the roster a little more before dumping massive salary towards him. In totality though, it’s Jefferson > Olave > BTJ > DJ Moore > MHJ. Just my opinion and that has no value lol 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: You're on something else if you think the cost for Marvin Harrison Jr. on a Rookie contract, just 2 years removed from being taken 4th overall is just Keon Coleman, a 2nd, and a 4th. It would take multiple 1sts. I doubt it. His stock 2 years in isn't looking good. It's certainly not as low as Keon, but it's not good. I actually heard those proposed trade values from a couple NFL podcasts. No way is it multiple 1sts. I could see a 1st this year plus more though. Multiple 1sts for MHJr isn't the reality of 2026. Let's say it is.., do you trade 2 1sts for him? 2 hours ago, MJS said: Keon Coleman has no trade value. Why even include him? We traded Kaiir Elam for something. We could trade Keon Coleman 1 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: You're on something else if you think the cost for Marvin Harrison Jr. on a Rookie contract, just 2 years removed from being taken 4th overall is just Keon Coleman, a 2nd, and a 4th. It would take multiple 1sts. 3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: Sorry your costs are way off and really none of these are even realistic. The Jaguars are not trading BTJ to us ever and especially not for Keon and a 3rd. We just knocked them out of the playoffs and people think they are going to give us a potential weapon. The Saints made the decision last season to build around Olave - they traded their other WRs - they are not letting him go - probably the biggest pipe dream out there. Minnesota has no incentive to trade JJ this off season. They need to figure out if McCarthy is a QB or are they drafting one next year and the best way to figure that out is with both WRs they have. Then they can flip one or both WRs at either the trade deadline or 2027 draft to move up for the QB of their choice. I know people want to believe we will get him, but the chance is so slim as to not be seen. MHJ has the best chance to get moved of those on the list, but they have a new staff coming in and you would expect them to try and build around talent and he has talent. My guess is he is still a Cardinal in 2026 and they will also decide on him going into the 2027 draft where the talent should be better. With a projected weak offensive draft in 2026 - I think most teams will hold on to their assets until 2027 and we will hear a great story about how Beane was in on a lot of guys, but nothing shook free. The most likely signings are a mid level FA WR (Doubs or maybe Evans) at lesser money and a mid round WR 3rd or 4th. With high picks used or traded to cover the defensive needs like a big time OLB/DE. Give me your actual trade values for each of these players. I'd love to hear it. I think the Olave value is close to accurate. Quote
Rochesterfan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Give me your actual trade values for each of these players. I'd love to hear it. I think the Olave value is close to accurate. They have no trade value because they are not getting moved. Quote
Sojourner Posted February 8 Posted February 8 10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I doubt it. His stock 2 years in isn't looking good. It's certainly not as low as Keon, but it's not good. I actually heard those proposed trade values from a couple NFL podcasts. No way is it multiple 1sts. I could see a 1st this year plus more though. Multiple 1sts for MHJr isn't the reality of 2026. Let's say it is.., do you trade 2 1sts for him? We traded Kaiir Elam for something. We could trade Keon Coleman Sadly, after that whole press conference where they virtually wrote off the belief in Coleman I don’t see a world in where you’re getting anything of value. Don’t see why they nuked any he had. Truly bizarre. Quote
Sojourner Posted February 8 Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: They have no trade value because they are not getting moved. I don’t think the Saints would willingly move on from him but I think they at least consider what was suggested. I that roster has a lot of pieces needing filled or upgraded and not to mention two of their best defensive players are up there in age (Davis/Jordan). Offensively their two guys outside Olave that have had success in the league are in the same boat; Johnson/Kamara. Given the right offer, everyone on an NFL roster is tradable except a franchise QB Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: I doubt it. His stock 2 years in isn't looking good. It's certainly not as low as Keon, but it's not good. I actually heard those proposed trade values from a couple NFL podcasts. No way is it multiple 1sts. I could see a 1st this year plus more though. Multiple 1sts for MHJr isn't the reality of 2026. Let's say it is.., do you trade 2 1sts for him? 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Give me your actual trade values for each of these players. I'd love to hear it. I think the Olave value is close to accurate. You're talking about a WR who was considered to be the top WR prospect in decades. The 4th Pick overall just two years ago. Who's under a cost controlled Rookie contract - with 3 years left on his deal. And you're acting as if he's been a complete and total bust and is 4 years in. Even in his "disappointing" years - he put up 880 yards and 8 TD's in his Rookie season and 608 yards and 4 TDs in just 10 starts his 2nd year, dealing with injuries. And did so with a combustible Cardinals offense. Try typing "what it would take to trade for Marvin Harrison Jr.?" in Google. You're out to lunch if you think it's anything close to what you proposed. Bc of where he is in his career, who he's been playing with, what's left on his contract, and his talent level - it's easily two 1sts. Probably even more. And I agree with @BuffaloBillyG - it's unlikely he goes anywhere. They'll move on from Kyler and build around him. 2 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I'm curious as to why you didn't include Waddle. Quote
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