Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted February 7 Posted February 7 No matter how bad any team is, or how embarrassing their losses have been.. every single team can all say “hey at least we’re not the browns” for the foreseeable future. Hope you’re happy Myles 1 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, dayman said: They should team up with Gruden and do a YouTube original movie in Hawaii. Throw Kromer in the mix, add some chairs on a public beach and 💸 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted February 7 Posted February 7 4 hours ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Our own Buffalo River caught fire on December of 1968... at first it was thought that the South Park Bridge was on fire but it was actually the river itself, ignited by a welder working on the bridge. The fire in the above post occurred in June of 1969... near Cleveland's Republic Steel. It was only the latest of several fires on that river. Later that same year in Detroit, the Detroit River (actually the Rouge River) caught fire (in October 1969). In large part due to these events, 1972 the Federal Clean Water Act became law. The current administration has weakened EPA oversight over the protection of US waters. 1 2 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted February 7 Posted February 7 4 hours ago, H2o said: Haslam brought ALL of this upon them with his trading for a sexual predator, guaranteeing the 🤡's $230M contract, and jettisoning the #1 overall draft pick who helped bring Cleveland back in a way. A guy who was a couple of plays away from beating KC in the Playoffs and well liked by his teammates. A QB who has gone on to have a really solid career. All the while their sexual predator has played a total of 19 games in 3 seasons, thrown for almost 3,400 yds, 19 TD's, and 12 INT's all while looking like complete crap on the field. During these three years, Watson has cashed in to the tune of $183,412,563. That's $9,653,292 per TD pass. They gave up 3 First Round picks, a Third, and 2 Fourth Round picks to get the 🤡 in the first place. Those picks turned into Will Anderson, Tank Dell, Kenyon Green, Kamari Lassiter, Dameon Pierce, Calen Bullock, Jamal Hill. THAT, my friend, is "karma" at it's best, or Haslam getting what he deserved. However you choose to see it. Not to derail this thread, but I was convinced that Watson was going by to be terrible for whoever ended up with him as soon as he sat out the season for the Texans. This was AFTER all his sexual assault stuff came out. He just decided not to play, while his first year HC was losing games with Tyrod and rookie Davis Mills. Selfish move by a selfish guy. iMO, he hadn’t done enough in the league to justify a move like that. I was thankful the Bills weren’t in the market for a QB then Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 7 Posted February 7 11 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Part of me thinks Assistants need to start putting language into their contracts that their contracts only remain valid if the Head Coach is retained. Another part of me thinks Jim Schwartz shouldnt be allowed to throw a fit if he doesnt get the promotion he wants. Pretty conflicted here. He resigned. It's not indentured servitude. Not sure if Browns retain some rights over his ability to sign elsewhere. I suspect they might. However they obviously dont have to pay him. 1 hour ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said: No matter how bad any team is, or how embarrassing their losses have been.. every single team can all say “hey at least we’re not the browns” for the foreseeable future. Hope you’re happy Myles Ahh what short memories we have... Lets see where should we begin, 0-20 for the 1970s against the Dolphins, Kay Stephenson, back to back 2-14, 17 years, guy quit at half time, arguably best player in franchise history history is a double murderer, and franchise is best known for wide-right and music city miracles Glass houses my friend, glass houses... 2 Quote
Dr. Who Posted February 7 Posted February 7 51 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He resigned. It's not indentured servitude. Not sure if Browns retain some rights over his ability to sign elsewhere. I suspect they might. However they obviously dont have to pay him. Ahh what short memories we have... Lets see where should we begin, 0-20 for the 1970s against the Dolphins, Kay Stephenson, back to back 2-14, 17 years, guy quit at half time, arguably best player in franchise history history is a double murderer, and franchise is best known for wide-right and music city miracles Glass houses my friend, glass houses... You're in the right city. Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted February 7 Posted February 7 The Browns are *****in' idiots. You pass over the guy, yet you expect him to stay and work for the guy for which he was passed over? And while you let other assistants out of their contracts, you hang on to Schwartz's? Dick move by the Browns. 9 hours ago, uticaclub said: You have the right to quit your job and not get paid He will still get paid, as the Browns are retaining his rights and not releasing him from his contract, like they did for every other assistant coach on the staff except for Schwartz. Quote
eball Posted February 7 Posted February 7 12 hours ago, davefan66 said: Letting them out of their contract reduces continuity. Not a fan of that , especially if it’s a great coach. Look at Brady who kept staff from last year. Why wouldn’t you want to do that? Continuity? The HC is gone! It’s only fair to give coaches the option to leave; the new HC can absolutely talk to everyone and try to get them to stay if that’s what he wants. Additionally — why do you want a new HC to have coaches forced upon him? You’re hiring the guy to run your franchise and then telling him who he has to hire/keep? No thanks. That’s why Haslam and the Browns are a clown operation. In Brady’s case it makes all the sense in the world that he would keep a number of offensive assistants; what I’m suggesting wouldn’t change that. 1 Quote
BearNorth Posted February 7 Posted February 7 10 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Our own Buffalo River caught fire on December of 1968... at first it was thought that the South Park Bridge was on fire but it was actually the river itself, ignited by a welder working on the bridge. The fire in the above post occurred in June of 1969... near Cleveland's Republic Steel. It was only the latest of several fires on that river. Later that same year in Detroit, the Detroit River (actually the Rouge River) caught fire (in October 1969). In large part due to these events, 1972 the Federal Clean Water Act became law. The current administration has weakened EPA oversight over the protection of US waters. When I was a kid, my grandfather was the Buffalo Fire Department Battalion Chief for South Buffalo and the Buffalo River. He used to tell stories about fires on/along the river, and in the heavy industrial plants along the river. After my dad died, in 1954, used to come pick me up on Saturdays and take me on his morning tour of South Buffalo with him. A real character straight out of Damon Runyon. Sadly he passed away in 1960 as he was getting dressed to go to his retirement ceremony. 1 1 Quote
cle23 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 8 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: The Browns are *****in' idiots. You pass over the guy, yet you expect him to stay and work for the guy for which he was passed over? And while you let other assistants out of their contracts, you hang on to Schwartz's? Dick move by the Browns. He will still get paid, as the Browns are retaining his rights and not releasing him from his contract, like they did for every other assistant coach on the staff except for Schwartz. If he doesn't coach, he doesn't get paid. If he chooses next year to coach, then he would be entitled to his contract. Quote
LetJamesCook Posted February 7 Posted February 7 22 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Part of me thinks Assistants need to start putting language into their contracts that their contracts only remain valid if the Head Coach is retained. Another part of me thinks Jim Schwartz shouldnt be allowed to throw a fit if he doesnt get the promotion he wants. Pretty conflicted here. This is kind of a weird take. People quit their jobs all the time when they don’t get a promotion the feel the deserved, especially when’s. Company goes with an outside hire. Being a football coach doesn’t mean he should be exempt from that 1 Quote
GaryPinC Posted February 7 Posted February 7 16 hours ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: I know it's the easy joke, but I've got to say the Cuyahoga is becoming a pretty amazing watershed again 50+ years on. Walleye frye, they'll even get the occasional spawning sturgeon. Steelhead presence expanding too, tons of Northern Pike in the upper stretches. One last dam to knock down in the next 2 years. Unique that glaciation and topography caused it to completely change direction northwards to lake Erie. Only class V rapids in Ohio! 4 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted February 7 Posted February 7 3 hours ago, LetJamesCook said: This is kind of a weird take. People quit their jobs all the time when they don’t get a promotion the feel the deserved, especially when’s. Company goes with an outside hire. Being a football coach doesn’t mean he should be exempt from that Football coaches sign contracts binding them to an organization for a number of years. Its not the same as someone quitting their job in corporate America because they were passed over for a promotion. 14 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He resigned. It's not indentured servitude. Not sure if Browns retain some rights over his ability to sign elsewhere. I suspect they might. However they obviously dont have to pay him. Ahh what short memories we have... Lets see where should we begin, 0-20 for the 1970s against the Dolphins, Kay Stephenson, back to back 2-14, 17 years, guy quit at half time, arguably best player in franchise history history is a double murderer, and franchise is best known for wide-right and music city miracles Glass houses my friend, glass houses... He signed a legally binding contract with them for a certain amount of years. Of course its not indentured servitude what a weird parallel. Quote
davefan66 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 8 hours ago, eball said: Continuity? The HC is gone! It’s only fair to give coaches the option to leave; the new HC can absolutely talk to everyone and try to get them to stay if that’s what he wants. Additionally — why do you want a new HC to have coaches forced upon him? You’re hiring the guy to run your franchise and then telling him who he has to hire/keep? No thanks. That’s why Haslam and the Browns are a clown operation. In Brady’s case it makes all the sense in the world that he would keep a number of offensive assistants; what I’m suggesting wouldn’t change that. Like I mentioned previously, continuity like we have this year. HC elevated from OC working with guys he trusts. At the root though, they’ve signed a contract they must honor. If they want to add that as a provision to the contract, so be it. Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted February 7 Posted February 7 5 hours ago, cle23 said: If he doesn't coach, he doesn't get paid. If he chooses next year to coach, then he would be entitled to his contract. Wrong. The Browns have to pay him if they're retaining his rights. Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 On 2/6/2026 at 12:12 PM, US Egg said: Git ‘er…..oh, darn! Just once I wanna be the 1st to get that “gem” posted first in a thread. “Here me out…” In!!! 😅 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 7 Posted February 7 It's such a Browns thing. They had a DC that had the Defensive Player of the year and defensive rookie of the year and was literally begging for the promotion because how much he loved the Browns and their deep history in the league. So they pass him over for Monken, who it's reported the Ravens demanded Harbaugh get rid of and when he refused, lost his own job. So Brownsy Quote
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted February 8 Posted February 8 19 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Lets see where should we begin, 0-20 for the 1970s against the Dolphins, Kay Stephenson, back to back 2-14, 17 years, guy quit at half time, arguably best player in franchise history history is a double murderer, and franchise is best known for wide-right and music city miracles well i didnt realize we'd go all the way back to 1970 with our misery....how bout this...they lose their team right as theyre getting good then the new version wins the superbowl 2 years later. then they get the team back and are living in our drought hell ever since. new qb's new coaches, horrible contracts, the one time they do get it good with baker they send him away and give the worst contract known to the sport. i still think its better to be a bills fan even after all of our misery, browns is more embarrassing i would say Quote
BarleyNY Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Some chatter that the Browns are looking to extract something from a team (Raiders) that wants Schwartz for DC. Important to note that the NFL does not allow assistants to be traded. Only HCs. So it’d have to be disguised as some other trade. A couple seasons ago it happened with Bill Callihan to the Titans. Browns released him from his contract and then sent the Titans a nobody OL that would’ve been a cut for a 7th back. So something similar, but likely a little better return. If the Raiders I could see the Browns acquiring a player for less return than expected. Mayer would make sense for both teams. Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 8 Posted February 8 46 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Mayer would make sense for both teams Your post in general is very interesting, thanks. I find this nugget interesting: Kubiak has run more 12 personnel than any of team in the league. What makes you think they’d want to move one of the TEs he likely plans to use? Quote
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