Big Turk Posted February 5 Posted February 5 That honestly really pisses me off that the Bill's would "value" a player like Keon Coleman more than Hollins who did everything the right way and made plays when it mattered in big situations... Always available, unlike Palmer and Samuel, and did all the little things right. Definitely still rubs me the wrong way that he is a Patriot and not a Bill. https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/article_9fd62547-f1ae-4f4e-ba6a-26e63eecda0a.html 7 2 1 19 2 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Mack Hollins has become one of the most overrated players in franchise history. He’s a WR4 or WR5. He’s tough and he’s goofy so we liked him. Mack isn’t a very good football player and should have been replaced pretty easily. 13 1 30 2 8 Quote
zow2 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Mack is loyal to no one but himself. He's just popping off. He's moved around like a gypsy and probably prefers it that way. 4 3 2 Quote
MJS Posted February 5 Posted February 5 What does Keon Coleman have to do with it? And if you haven't noticed, Coleman is not very highly valued by the organization. He was a healthy scratch for many games the past year and Pegula and Beane have been pointing fingers at who is to blame for drafting him. Meanwhile, we're supposed to value Mack Hollins who is a WR4 and special teamer? Yeah, he's a decent depth player, but not someone any organization should lose sleep over. 3 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Mack Hollins has become one of the most overrated players in franchise history. He’s a WR4 or WR5. He’s tough and he’s goofy so we liked him. Mack isn’t a very good football player and should have been replaced pretty easily. Good teams win lots of games with players fulfilling his role, and every team that wins has players like him. Replacing him with players who don't is not a way to do that. 1 1 Quote
Man with No Name Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) ive been waiting for this thread. no sub to buffalo news, so was unsure of what exactly he means by that. Mack is a perfect WR4. reliable. good blocking. special teams. versatile. guys who show up everyday and do their job should never be overlooked. whether it's football or any other job in real life. unfortunately, those traits arent as common as they should be. Edited February 5 by Man with No Name 2 1 6 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Hollins is a great WR5 and borderline WR4. His primary value comes from blocking and special teams. As a receiver, you should be able to draw a name out of a hat and get an equal or better talent. The fact that we whiffed, doesn't excuse that. 3 Quote
13 Seconds to Mars Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Mack Hollins has become one of the most overrated players in franchise history. He’s a WR4 or WR5. He’s tough and he’s goofy so we liked him. Mack isn’t a very good football player and should have been replaced pretty easily. Forreal. People act like we lost a prime TO 2 Quote
RkFast Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) Yeah, Im not putting too much credence into what a guy who walks into playoff games wearing a Fred Flintstone costume and yelling "Yabba Dabba Do" has to say about anything. Edited February 5 by RkFast 4 Quote
Man with No Name Posted February 5 Posted February 5 For what he does, it's not like he asks for too much money. we got rid of him, and didn't have one steady presence through the whole season, outside of Shakir. 5 1 Quote
Bills!Win! Posted February 5 Posted February 5 All I can say is; I can’t stand the Seahawks. Go Seahawks 2 1 9 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Good teams win lots of games with players fulfilling his role, and every team that wins has players like him. Replacing him with players who don't is not a way to do that. Nobody said that guys like him aren’t important. I said, “he’s not important and easily replaced.” If you were to rank the 53 guys on a roster and Mack Hollins is above the 35th most important guy, that’s because your roster isn’t good enough. Shavers can do everything Mack did plus more and he’s WR6. 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 Just now, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Forreal. People act like we lost a prime TO No, it has nothing to do with that in terms of his production. It has to do with every winning team needs players who fulfil that role and are great at what he did, and you simply don't win without players like him on your team. Could we have used him this year? Hell yeah. 1 Quote
Mod_Squad_Reject Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) They didn’t value paying him his asking price. I’m ok with it Shavers filled the spot and did an admirable job. Can’t pay everyone it just the way it goes. Edited February 5 by Mod_Squad_Reject 7 1 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) He's 32 years old and was signed for 4.5 million dollars a year in New England. The Bills didnt have the sort of cap space to throw at an aging role player. For as evolved as he pretends to be you would think he wouldnt be in his feelings over business. Edited February 5 by thenorthremembers 3 4 2 Quote
RkFast Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Mod_Squad_Reject said: They didn’t value paying him more than he was worth. I’m ok with it Shavers filled the spot and did an admirable job. Can’t pay everyone it just the way it goes. THIS. Funny how when its time to get "the bag", for players its "all about standing on business" but when the organization takes that approach, its suddenly about "the player and his value and appreciation." 1 Quote
Pete Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Good teams win lots of games with players fulfilling his role, and every team that wins has players like him. Replacing him with players who don't is not a way to do that. Mack has been the best Bills Outside WR for the past 2 years Edited February 5 by Pete 3 1 Quote
MJS Posted February 5 Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: No, it has nothing to do with that in terms of his production. It has to do with every winning team needs players who fulfil that role and are great at what he did, and you simply don't win without players like him on your team. Could we have used him this year? Hell yeah. What role are you talking about? Blocking and catching an occasional pass? Playing special teams? Yes, every team has players like that, including the Bills. What the Bills lack is top end talent at the receiver position. 1 1 Quote
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