Kirby Jackson Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Reich stinks as a coach. He was great as a backup QB. This stint is destined to last 1 season. They’ll clean house in the offseason, heading into a year with 3 first round picks, including what could be 1:1. Todd McShay said 2027 might be the best class he’s ever scouted and maybe the best QB class. He said there could be 8 first round QBs in 2027!! Crazy. That Jets job will be appealing next year if anyone is willing to work for Woody. 1 Quote
Seventeen Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: 1. The other team in that big market just hired a guy for $20M/yr, and those contracts are guaranteed. 2. All coaches are arrogant in a "I can do a better job than anyone else" way 3. There are only 32 of these jobs in the entire world. Sure, understand all of those but Tomlin/McDermott to the Jets ? Quote
T.E. Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Good Jets hire for the Bills. We all love Frank the backup QB. But Frank the Coach isnt very good. Frank as an OC with the Eagles got more, pound-for-pound out of his QBs than Brady did here with the best player in football under center, unfortunately. Edited February 4 by T.E. 1 1 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted February 4 Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, Gregg said: McDermott took the Bills job when they were a perpetual dumpster fire at the time. But, despite current sentiment, Pegula is far from being a meddling idiot like Woody Johnson. He and Kim would have provided hope for a perspective head coach whereas Woody will just provide questionable decisions and a history of putting his 2 cents into every decision when he has zero ability to provide anything positive. 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Gregg said: Speaking of the Jets. There is a thread on the Jets forum that Mougey wants out (rumor) but Evan and Tiki brought it up yesterday on WFAN. The link in on WFAN's website from yesterday. As I said this is a rumor but given who the owner is maybe there is some truth to it. Woody is known to meddle. He overruled JD and Saleh a few years back to bring Rodgers to NY when it was reported in the media that they both wanted Carr at the time. https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/new-york-jets/woody-johnson-wink-martindale-nfl-bombshell/ This is pretty wild. @Kirby Jackson, this might answer your question about anyone wanting to work for Woody. My immediate takeaway: the very worst the Bills could ever be next year is 2-15. Edited February 4 by dave mcbride 1 2 Quote
dave mcbride Posted February 4 Posted February 4 26 minutes ago, Steptide said: He built himself a career winning that superbowl against the Pats with a backup qb. I think this is a good hire for the jets though. He has head coaching experience and has alot of experience with offense obviously. We'll see how much it pays off tho He didn't call any of the plays for that Eagles team. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 4 Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/new-york-jets/woody-johnson-wink-martindale-nfl-bombshell/ This is pretty wild. @Kirby Jackson, this might answer your question about anyone wanting to work for Woody. My immediate takeaway: the very worst the Bills could ever be next year is 2-15. Thanks!! I’ll check it out. It’s great to have some reading on crazy Woody. Quote
Ennjay Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Less true now than it used to be, but . . . Sometimes a ream hires an OC for the flash and dazzle they think he can produce (hello Davis Webb) and sometimes to install and ground the basics in what's otherwise a mess and set a tone (Greg Roman). In other words, either geniuses or babysitters. The Jets have something of a running game and a receiver or two (Wilson, maybe Mitchell) but absolutely no QB and -- NEWS ALERT -- it's a QB's game. They need a babysitter more than a genius at this point. (I understand they even interviewed Roman.). Frank will handle the job with dignity and professionalism, which is all they're looking for. That doesn't mean the O will be any good. Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Wow, the Frank Reich hate runs deep at TBD. I think the Jets made a sneaky good hire here. Go Frank! 1 1 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Ennjay said: Less true now than it used to be, but . . . Sometimes a ream hires an OC for the flash and dazzle they think he can produce (hello Davis Webb) and sometimes to install and ground the basics in what's otherwise a mess and set a tone (Greg Roman). In other words, either geniuses or babysitters. The Jets have something of a running game and a receiver or two (Wilson, maybe Mitchell) but absolutely no QB and -- NEWS ALERT -- it's a QB's game. They need a babysitter more than a genius at this point. (I understand they even interviewed Roman.). Frank will handle the job with dignity and professionalism, which is all they're looking for. That doesn't mean the O will be any good. So…which one do we have? A genius or a babysitter? (Asking for a friend.) Quote
Steptide Posted February 4 Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He didn't call any of the plays for that Eagles team. Maybe not, but he was linked to that offense and that gave him head coaching opportunity in the nfl, Imo anyway 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Wow, the Frank Reich hate runs deep at TBD. I think the Jets made a sneaky good hire here. Go Frank! No one hates him. Enough with this BS that any critique of someone's job is personal or "hateful". He just isnt a good coach. 32 minutes ago, Seventeen said: Sure, understand all of those but Tomlin/McDermott to the Jets ? Sure. They are exactly what teams like the Jets, Cardinals, Saints, Titans, etc need. Someone to come in and right the ship. Rebuild the entire culture in the building from the ground up. What doesnt fit for you? Edited February 4 by DrDawkinstein Quote
Seventeen Posted February 4 Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: No one hates him. Enough with this BS that any critique of someone's job is personal or "hateful". He just isnt a good coach. Sure. They are exactly what teams like the Jets, Cardinals, Saints, Titans, etc need. Someone to come in and right the ship. Rebuild the entire culture in the building from the ground up. What doesnt fit for you? The stain on their legacy as winners and playoff contenders if they don't pull off a turnaround. Woody Johnson. Scrutiny of the NYC media. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Seventeen said: The stain on their legacy as winners and playoff contenders if they don't pull off a turnaround. Woody Johnson. Scrutiny of the NYC media. The flip side of not pulling off a turn around is going to a contender and still not winning a SB and then everyone will have it confirmed that he cant win at the highest level. There is always risk in every job they take. But it pays well and there arent many of them. Woody Johnson is the ultimate excuse tho if things dont go well. But I agree he is a big negative and they would need assurances that he's stay out of their business (which Im not sure he's willing to do or even promise). edit: Thinking about jobs that might be open next year that they could come back for... The Bengals might have an open spot, and they'd have to deal with Mike Brown there. I'm sure both would love it if the Eagles and/or Packers job opened up. But if McD doesnt win the Super Bowl in Philly after Pederson and Sirianni could, what's that do to his legacy? Edited February 4 by DrDawkinstein Quote
TheFunPolice Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) Since someone brought it up, on the subject of Tomlin to the Jets... Tomlin will never coach again. He's done. That's the story anyway from people close to him. IF he did he isn't going to Jets for any price. I could see him maybe trying college, but if he coaches in the NFL again he is going to want a good job. If something like the 49ers, Eagles or Chiefs (if Reid retires in a few years) or even Cowboys comes open then maybe. But he isn't going just anywhere. IMO all the insider chatter from people who know Tomlin is he left Pittsburgh the way he did (instead of asking for a "mutual parting" that would tear up his contract and set him free) because he doesn't intend to ever coach again, so it doesn't matter. Normally, a coach would not want to enter a new situation where he's already out multiple high draft picks. OF course, Tomlin would be fully within his rights to just show up for work in Pittsburgh and force the issue, which would be hilarious. They would either have to employ him or fire him then and he would be free. Edited February 4 by TheFunPolice 2 Quote
Another Fan Posted February 4 Posted February 4 4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Wow, the Frank Reich hate runs deep at TBD. I think the Jets made a sneaky good hire here. Go Frank! I will still root for him 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted February 4 Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: he'll be interim HC by week 8 The should just do it now then. Glenn has been a disaster Quote
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